Is it snowing yet?
27 January 2004, 11:52 AM
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According to Petes Metcheck thing for my area it's snowing now! On looking out the window it's like a day in summer! not a cloud in the sky and the sun is blazing! I havent been out yet so no doubt it's cold, but hey, newsflash - it's January it's supposed to be cold! All this hysteria is crap! It was supposed to start Sunday, then Monday, now possibly Wednesday! Stroll on thats what I say
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27 January 2004, 01:47 PM
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Used to live in Sutton, next to Crosshills. This is way back in the days of wearing short pants and having permenantly grazed knees 
Mate used to live in Welbeck house, first house on the left as you come in to Cowling from Crosshills, nice gaff!
Mate used to live in Welbeck house, first house on the left as you come in to Cowling from Crosshills, nice gaff!
27 January 2004, 02:11 PM
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Woke up this morning and it was raining. Went for a shower then looked out the window again - 4 inches of snow
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27 January 2004, 03:04 PM
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Well, it looks like the sceptics were right. Bright sunshine here too (Surrey).
That's twice in one month the BBC have cried wolf over severe weather warnings. Think of all the tax payers money that has been wasted by this in unneccessary gritting etc.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Of course, next time nobody will take them seriously, and if by some coincidence they do get it right there will be chaos again.
Somebody's head should roll over this IMO.
UB
That's twice in one month the BBC have cried wolf over severe weather warnings. Think of all the tax payers money that has been wasted by this in unneccessary gritting etc.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Of course, next time nobody will take them seriously, and if by some coincidence they do get it right there will be chaos again.
Somebody's head should roll over this IMO.UB
27 January 2004, 03:19 PM
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well it was good to see the roads to work this morning had been gritted nicely, even though the temp was well above freezing and the sun was shining (it's still shining btw) this ofcourse being compared with last week when we had serious snow here and the county was brought to a stop with not a gritter in sight!
<also resulted in a £133 repair bill for a bent lower control arm on my car! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]>
<also resulted in a £133 repair bill for a bent lower control arm on my car! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]>
27 January 2004, 03:40 PM
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It's snowing here in SW France and the BBC/Met office predicted it correctly- perhaps they are only any good at long distance forecasting .
Sod's law as well, first snow I've seen since last year at this altitude and I'm driving through the Pyrenees tommorrow- good job I bought some snow chains.
[Edited by NACRO - 1/27/2004 3:40:29 PM]
.Sod's law as well, first snow I've seen since last year at this altitude and I'm driving through the Pyrenees tommorrow- good job I bought some snow chains.
[Edited by NACRO - 1/27/2004 3:40:29 PM]
27 January 2004, 05:29 PM
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started snowing as i came home from niteshift this morning
so i did a detour into a retail park and cracked a few donuts and slides off infront of the security hut, then came home to sleep
so i did a detour into a retail park and cracked a few donuts and slides off infront of the security hut, then came home to sleep
27 January 2004, 06:13 PM
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Some thoughts for you:
1. Met Office (MO) own website forecasts (graphical/tabular) are produced by machines and there appears to be very little quality control. The text stuff though (i.e. descriptions and warnings are produced by humans and hence are fairly reliable).
2. BBC Weather pages use a similar data feed as the MO site. Hence can be trusted just as much (I never look at it).
3. The above situation is being looked into apparantly.
4. MetCheck is run by a guy called Andrew Bond who does all the site etc. from his bedroom (or equivelent). He can put a nice site together and can talk some weather stuff, but has no formal met. training (asks the simplest meteorological questions on one of the newsgroups) and his forecasts are produced from a raw GFS feed (numerical model output) with no manual intervention or quality control (as far as I can tell)..
So, when it comes down to it, you can trust none of the online sources (IMHO).
If you want a proper forecast, either pay for one from your local Met Office (i.e. will have no media spin on it and will have actual degrees of confidence) or watch the national BBC and regional BBC forecasts (not News24, usually recorded). Pay attention to what they say on a day to day basis. Their information is the most up to date and will be most relevant.
If a forecast says X will happen at Y location on day Z (five days before day Z), that usually means they have a good idea what the general situation will be like. Don't then stop watching forecasts until day Z. You have to watch them Z - 4, Z - 3, Z - 2 and Z - 1 where the detail and timing of events gets tied down to more and more detail (both spatial and temporal).
Also remember that even on the national TV forecasts, they only have 2 or 3 minutes to get across detail for the whole of the UK for two or three days. How can they possibly give you good detail including confidence levels?
When it comes down to it, if you want an quality forecast, you get it direct from the the MO. Maximum detail, human in the loop, confidence levels etc.
Ignore all media stories, they never report the facts correctly and always "sex" the information up. Give it two days and the original detail has all but left the reports. Tabloids and broadsheets are equally responsible in this case.
</rant off>
Cheers
Ian
[Edited by IWatkins - 1/27/2004 6:15:54 PM]
1. Met Office (MO) own website forecasts (graphical/tabular) are produced by machines and there appears to be very little quality control. The text stuff though (i.e. descriptions and warnings are produced by humans and hence are fairly reliable).
2. BBC Weather pages use a similar data feed as the MO site. Hence can be trusted just as much (I never look at it).
3. The above situation is being looked into apparantly.
4. MetCheck is run by a guy called Andrew Bond who does all the site etc. from his bedroom (or equivelent). He can put a nice site together and can talk some weather stuff, but has no formal met. training (asks the simplest meteorological questions on one of the newsgroups) and his forecasts are produced from a raw GFS feed (numerical model output) with no manual intervention or quality control (as far as I can tell)..
So, when it comes down to it, you can trust none of the online sources (IMHO).
If you want a proper forecast, either pay for one from your local Met Office (i.e. will have no media spin on it and will have actual degrees of confidence) or watch the national BBC and regional BBC forecasts (not News24, usually recorded). Pay attention to what they say on a day to day basis. Their information is the most up to date and will be most relevant.
If a forecast says X will happen at Y location on day Z (five days before day Z), that usually means they have a good idea what the general situation will be like. Don't then stop watching forecasts until day Z. You have to watch them Z - 4, Z - 3, Z - 2 and Z - 1 where the detail and timing of events gets tied down to more and more detail (both spatial and temporal).
Also remember that even on the national TV forecasts, they only have 2 or 3 minutes to get across detail for the whole of the UK for two or three days. How can they possibly give you good detail including confidence levels?
When it comes down to it, if you want an quality forecast, you get it direct from the the MO. Maximum detail, human in the loop, confidence levels etc.
Ignore all media stories, they never report the facts correctly and always "sex" the information up. Give it two days and the original detail has all but left the reports. Tabloids and broadsheets are equally responsible in this case.
</rant off>
Cheers
Ian
[Edited by IWatkins - 1/27/2004 6:15:54 PM]
28 January 2004, 02:00 PM
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Could be here in work for a while. Nobody can up the hill from our business park to the main road since we had another inch or so of snow.
Got three courier vans and a RWD Merc trying at the moment. None of them are getting very far...
Got three courier vans and a RWD Merc trying at the moment. None of them are getting very far...
28 January 2004, 02:20 PM
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<looks out of window>
hmm.. appears to have stopped now n Teesside but an hour ago it was a full on blizzard and theres a good foot of snow about.
its so bad it may affect my plans to go to work tonight. hopefully it wont though because i really love my job
(can you feel the sarcasm?)
hmm.. appears to have stopped now n Teesside but an hour ago it was a full on blizzard and theres a good foot of snow about.
its so bad it may affect my plans to go to work tonight. hopefully it wont though because i really love my job
(can you feel the sarcasm?)