Neil F

Neanderthal.

If you are meticulous with your "marking up" when removing and refitting your struts, you may be able to minimise the error.
When I fitted mine, I managed to keep within the tolerance and did not require my camber to be reset and tracking was only slightly out.
This however may have been down to luck?
I guess I'm saying that I would not recommend it but if your desparate then it's the best option.
I have some fitting instructions for springs that I wrote out for some other club members if you want me to mail it to you.
Reply here or mail me on my profile address.

Neil.

Gridlock Mikey

Outstanding responses dudes.Cheers

Neanderthal, Why don't you buy the springs, and then wait a month and have 'em fitted when you have enough Dough

Yes you have to wait a month but it could save you the cost of having to buy new tyres.

Just a thought

Trouser, how them there springs a-shifting through TSL nowadays?

Mikey

Neanderthal

iTrader: (6)

Hey Mikey,

You think far to logically

I'll put the money aside for the springs and have a big spend next month

Cheers
Matt

Trouser

Hi Mikey (and other gents..... and of course.. ladeeeeez)

about a set a day mate! Eibach are so lovely they have actually donated a FREE set to the Trouser Express, as they quite rightly pointed out that I should not be extolling the virtues of this magnificent product whilst perambulating on an aged set of STi springs myself So cheers to them in a BIG way... and at least you know rightfully know that I am in their corporate pocket when I'm commenting!

Eibachs and 19"s!! will this be the most direct feel steering in the world?? Hope so!

Does anyone have a web site that shows location of major pot-holes?



Trouser

cullenj

Has anyone here fitted these springs to a five door? I've been told that there could be problems.

cheers

James

cullenj

Has anyone here fitted these springs to a five door? I've been told that there could be problems.

cheers

James

Neil F

CullenJ

It is exactly the same process for 4 and 5 door models except access to the rear strut tops which is actually easier on a 5 door!

I am not aware of any "performance" issues with these springs on 5 doors.

Neil.

[This message has been edited by Neil F (edited 05 October 2001).]

cullenj

I spoke to Elite yesterday, and they said they were not able to fit this kit to the five door imprezza as it "would cause problems", supposedly been told that by Eibach themselves. So has anyone had the kit fitted/had problems ??

Cheers,

James

(Confused of Essex)

mutant_matt

Have you called Powerstation and asked them? Also, try TSL Motorsport, they are getting quite cosy with Eibach so should also be able to answer your question....

Even better, ask both and compare results

Matt

BTW - Trouser on this BBS *is* TSL....

Gridlock Mikey

Still Saving!!!!

MIKEY

Tim Taylor

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[Edited by Tim Taylor - 10/16/2001 10:04:43 AM]

simon_prickett

lpitt on here has a 5 door MY98 with Eibachs and 17 inch Speedlines with 215/40/17 Toyos - I've been out in it, no problems at all. He's still using the standard struts.

Hope this helps,

Simon.

Mo

James,

very strange comments from Elite. They fitted Eibach springs to my 5dr last year and I've had no problems.

Trouser

...Ehhhh?????

To quote Eibach UK this afternoon (wednesday)...

"The springs kit fits all 4 and 5 door classic models and new shape WRX 4 and 5 door"

Thats enough assurance for me! ( we have also fitted about 20 5 doors with them... and they are all AWESOME!!)

Cheers

a very confused Trouser

cullenj

Cheers for the replies chaps. Best I give them yet another call.

Stef

Do a search for Eibach (if you can) and you'll find I quite like them too!

Stef.

StanS

iTrader: (3)

Had them on my UK98 5-door for about 20K miles with original struts. So far no probs. Fitted by TN.
For the money, the improvement (if geometry also done) is excellent.
Obviously, if you have another £1K+ you can get better.
Stan

lpitt

As Mr. Prickett said, I've had them for a few thousand miles now with no problems. Very pleased indeed, got the car booked in for Prodrive Geometry in November as the next mod.

Laurence

paul w

Neil F,
You say about marking up when taking the struts off/apart,is the impreza different to other motors and not just bolts and holes as on all the other cars i have done,as i have never heard of getting them back on out of line before,i am going to eibach my impreza and haven't looked under the arches yet so any tips would be apreciated.

Cheers paul

Neil F

Paul W.

The front struts are connected to the stub axle/hub assembly by 2 bolts, one above the other.
The top bolt is a "cam bolt" which, when turned (with the nut "backed off"), causes the top of the assembly to rock in (toward the engine) or out. This effectively translates to an increase or decrease in camber and is how the "Prodrive" settings are obtained.
The marking up I refer to is basically to detail as exactly as you can, the connection position prior to removing the strut.
This can be done to good effect by tracing around the strut onto the stub axle with a scriber or similar.
It's awkward to picture unless you're looking at the whole assembly, but obvious when you see it.
By careful marking and re-assembly I managed to maintain my camber settings to within tolerance, and although I had it re-checked straight after fitting my Eibachs, it did save me £20 odd at Elites in Rainham for tem to re-set it.
I did the same on the back struts as well, although there is no cam bolt adjustment built in. The is however a chance that the mounting holes have been ovalled out or enlarged to facilitate a similar adjustment (I know some 4 wheel alignment specialists do this) and I'm a bit of a stickler for eliminating any potential for error!
Hope this helps.

Neil.

paul w

Neil,
Thanks for the info,i had no idea the were on a cam bolt,i fully understand what you mean about scribing around the strut on the hub carrier,i will be carefull to keep this as it is,i'll get all the wheels aligned afterwards as the monkeys in the factory might never of got it right in the first place.

Cheers paul

mutant_matt

So, Mikey, you any nearing getting your Eibachs then????

Matt

Gridlock Mikey

Hiya all,

I haven't been on line for a while and I can't believe how long this thread has gotten

In answer to ya question, NO i still am no nearer to getting 'em fitted cos unfortunatley I have other things in life that command lumps of my income (Aren't women great )so the scoob fettling has had to take a back seat for a few months

However, I will be back to let those top dudes at TSL play with me beastie (Easy Tiger!!!) soon.

MIKEY

p.s I reckon i can spot an Eibached scoob at 40 paces! Sad or what?

PeterPerfect

So, what can I expect from these Eibachs if fitted to my UK MY99 4door (16" wheels, bumpsteer removal, and ALK) ?

Ta Pete

Trouser

Hi Peter

Eibachs and a full geometry setting will give you a level of composure, turn in and grip that the car didn't possess before.

The drop on a UK turbo is fairly marginal, but the real improvements come from the changes in spring rate and the differences in winding.

IMHO they are a nicer match for the later factory damper rate than the OE spring.

Re Bumpsteer and ALK... hmmm.. up to you, but after a full and correct alignment mine DOESN'T bumpsteer on 19" wheels... So the rack can't be in such a bad position can it?

We have fitted the odd set or two ... ask around. I do believe a certain Mr Hanslow may be able to help you

Cheers

Trouser

Neil F

Peterperfect.

As Trouser says, it's in the composure that I noticed the most improvement. My situation however was at the "other end of the scale". My STi had incredibly hard springing when I first got it. It would fly off crests and jitter and skip over relatively minor bumps.
The Eibachs have a much more suitable progressive rate for our roads than the original springs and they helps the wheels "drop back" into dips and off of crests.
To explain a little better: while they were free standing on the floor, I could compress the initial windings of the original springs' progressive coils with little more than my body weight alone. This meant that with the car's weight on them they would have been instantly on the harder sprung section of the spring. It also indicated that the spring didn't have the strength to open itself and the damper up when the ground fell away below it.
So, although the Eibachs felt harder to compress while free standing, they were actually better balanced in their progression overall and the ride became more compliant and fluid. It did literally transform the cars B road abilities and inspires tons of confidence.
If you are prepared to have a little firming up of your suspension I think you will enjoy the extra benefits you'll get from these springs.

Neil.

NBW

See my update after Eibachs fitted to my wagon on the other post:

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=65864

[Edited by NBW - 2/1/2002 6:16:56 PM]

paul w

Neil,

Please have a look at my other thread.

Paul

Ken E

Has anyone got Eibach shocks and springs fitted ? I believe my shocks may be on the way out so it would seem like the right time to have both the springs and shocks changed. I don't want to spend out on a full suspension kit cos the use I make of the car doesn't justify it.

Just wondered if this was a reasonable option to replace the original stuff. Or, does anyone know of another potential option ?

Cheers

Ken

Knowlesy

I had Leda fitted & they are amazing.....for a real comparison you only need to try them over country roads, but as they say "you pays your money, you takes your choice".