hawkeye

please feel free to edit and update interested to get these figures together to compare as i see it they go as follows:

1st edit required will someone please convert ps and nm to bhp and lbs foot please

...........wrx (ppp)..........sti uk(ppp)......spec c............wr1
weight...1395kg.............1470kg..........1350kg ..........1545kg
0-60........4.80................4.62............4.27 .................4.25
0-100..... 14.10..............12.20...........11.1........... .....10.67
1/4 mile...13.70...............13.44...........13.00.. ............12.80

power....265 ps.............305 ps..........315 ps??.........320ps
torque....348 nm............405 nm ........410 nm??........420nm

i dont know bout you guys but these figures seem a bit suspect to me the spec C figures are for ianlit's car which had 335lb torque NOT 315ps as i said please feel free to update so we can get some good comparisons going. Ive always thought prodrives figures seemed wierd to me this now only further proves it??

only my opinion but lets see

WR1

Any ideas when that might be then? I've had my deposit down for over two months now and while I am happy to wait it would be nice to at least be given an idea as to when some official information on the car will be released. Are there plans to give a WR1 over to a mag like EVO to assess?

LitchfieldImports

Hawkeye, the WR1's weight will be about the same as the normal UK STI PPP, the 1,545 kg figure was a loaded up car from the COC. The Spec C fiqures with an exhaust and remap are likely to be nearer 330PS & 450nm.

Don't forget that Prodrive might produce their fiqures with just a driver and low fuel so it will be differcult to compare like for like.

Iain

hawkeye

amazes me that figures are confidential on a car which Subaru will quite happily take a monetry deposit for........ and to think 18 months ago I got LOADS of grief for a post called WHAT HAVE I BOUGHT seems like its not only me who buys a car not knowing what it really is!!!!!

hawkeye

Updated thanks ian

...........wrx (ppp)..........sti uk(ppp)......spec c............wr1
weight...1395kg.............1470kg..........1350kg ..........1470kg
0-60........4.80................4.62............4.27 .................4.25
0-100..... 14.10..............12.20...........11.1........... .....10.67
1/4 mile...13.70...............13.44...........13.00.. ............12.80

power....265 ps.............305 ps..........330 ps.............320ps
torque....348 nm............405 nm ........450 nm............420nm


i realise this ian BUT the figures for the wrx,sti & wr1(alllegedly) are prodrives own figures hence why I say they dont stack up...grief even my pork pie ating frame wouldnt make up the difference in weight between the spec c and wr1!!

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

power to weight using official figures are as follows:-
WRX PPP=188bhp per tonne
STi PPP=204bhp per tonne
Spec C (rated at 276bhp)=204bhp per tonne
Spec C Limited (rated at 330bhp)=241bhp per tonne
WR1=214bhp per tonne

Now tell me which one is the quickest

Tony

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

ah just give you the ps/bhp conversions

265=262bhp, 305=300bhp, 315=310bhp 320=315bhp.

Tony

hawkeye

Updated again thanks Tony

...........wrx (ppp)..........sti uk(ppp)......spec c............wr1
weight...1395kg.............1470kg..........1350kg ..........1470kg
0-60........4.80................4.62............4.27 .................4.25
0-100..... 14.10..............12.20...........11.1........... .....10.67
1/4 mile...13.70...............13.44...........13.00.. ............12.80

power.......262 bhp.........300 bhp...... ..325 bhp...........315bhp
torque......348 nm...........405 nm ........450 nm............420nm
bhp/tonne.188................204..............241..... ............214


getting there now

edited due to stupidity hehehehe

hawkeye

and the torque conversations are........... hint hint tony!!

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Ah ive not got a conversion for that, ill have to try to find a haynes manual
Does anyone know if the WR1 is running a VF35, i dont think they have changed have they?

Tony

hawkeye

guess we'll have to wait till the brainy ones among us come home from work i mean school then!!

lol hawk

SimonH

Torque conversions are:
348 nm = 256.6ftlb
405 nm = 298.7ftlb
450 nm = 331.9ftlb
420 nm = 309.8ftlb

School finished early today

Beemer_Deano

Using my superior mathematical skills and incredible intellect..... nah - thank God for the power of the 'tinternet

348nm = 256.82ft/lbs
405=298.89
450=332.1
420=309.96

Deano

Beemer_Deano

Damn..... beat me to it

Deano

hawkeye

Updated again thanx to simon H & beemer deano

...........wrx (ppp)..........sti uk(ppp)......spec c............wr1
weight...1395kg.............1470kg..........1350kg ..........1470kg
0-60........4.80................4.62............4.27 .................4.25
0-100..... 14.10..............12.20...........11.1........... .....10.67
1/4 mile...13.70...............13.44...........13.00.. ............12.80

power.......262 bhp.........300 bhp...... ..325 bhp...........315bhp
torque......256.6ftlb........298.7ftlb .......331.9ftlb..........309.8ftlb
bhp/tonne.188................204..............241..... ............214
ftlb/tonne.184................203..............245..... ............210

hmm suddenly the figures become clearer..........THEY DONT STACK UP

come on prodrive if the wr1 figures are to be believed how does 10bhp per tonne and 7 ftlbs per tonne make such a difference between sti7/8ppp and wr1??

ps and welcome home from school lads........... lmfao

Sti_Lad

Is the gearing different??????

I dont think giving mike so much stick is really Fair, he is afterall a handy asset to this site..

BigWig

looks like IM just published the spec ! (At last).

See....

http://www.subaru.co.uk/imggb/www/subaru_news_events.nsf/WebInternetNewsByDDate/80E1DA8978A269F680256E58004C8C6B/$FILE/Impreza%20WR1%2015032004.pdf

So now Mr woods can talk to us about the results! Hint Hint!

Ta Ta

BigWig

WR1

I don't think people are giving Mike stick (unless i missed something), more that they are after finding out what's the truth and what's media hype.

I know Mike's hands are tied but it's just a shame he can't say one way or other whether the figures are close or just complete bollox.

I am another one who has put a deposit down on a car not knowing for sure what they will be getting in the end. Personally, I don't mind the "fun" of not knowing, at the end of the day the car is gonna be miles better than my MY98 (gulp, cross fingers etc).

BigWig

Whats goin on with the colour. In this picture it looks like a totally different colour (Blue....Very Blue!). Or are my eyes deceiving me? Just compare the colour in the two press releases. Weird!

S.B.

Seeing as subaru have officially released them they should be right

Same figures as i saw a while ago

WR1

I've seen pictures from the autoshow taken by people on Scoobynet that look different to the press release. I always assumed the press release photos were taken under very bright lights. I always thought that in the "real world" the car looked more silver.

Nathan L

Not giving Mike stick.

However we all want an honest appraisal of the WR1's performance figures. If they are being over optimistic it's only right they should be challenged to show they are correct IMHO.

Nathan..

WR1

Blimey, there I am talking about the fun of not knowing and flaming Subaru go and publish the things...

WOW, the figures bounded around are really for real. Okay, please hurry up and get my car ready, not sure I can wait until Jun, Jul etc now.

S.B.

They have changed the picture on the press release


Clicky for PR

WR1

Hey, Subaru just changed the photo on the Press Release. It's now showing the same one used on the original press release.

Anyone know why they changed it???

Bob Rawle

A STANDARD Spec C is nothing like 325bhp btw, more like 290 bhp. Even one with a backbox change only made 296 at Prosport and ran that pretty consistently over three runs.

The power figs don't tell anything like the whole story though, area under the power curve (read torque) is what counts and how it responds and delivers it.

Given that it puts the timing in perspective.

cheers

bob

BigWig

Probably cause there reading this thread! Funny thing is I quite liked the blue version of the same colour. Even if it only ever existed in that press release!
I've got the original stored.

Are the gear ratios different to standard? Anybody know?

Beemer_Deano

Same as the STi UK, according to Subaru UK's site.

Reading through the thread earlier today, I do think there a bit of anti-Prodrive sentiment from certain areas.

I've seen wild variances between car magazines and manufacturers (not always negative ones either). I've not seen other manufacturers allow "challenges" to their performance figures so if Mike wants to enter into any sort of discourse about them, all credit to him - the confrontational attitude of some would put me off personally though

Deano

MJW

Gear ratios for those who haven't downloaded the PDF bumph-sheet :

1st 3.636 5.1 mph/1000 rpms
2nd 2.375 7.8 mph/1000 rpms
3rd 1.761 10.5 mph/1000 rpms
4th 1.346 13.7 mph/1000 rpms
5th 0.971 19.0 mph/1000 rpms
6th 0.756 24.5 mph/1000 rpms
Reverse 3.545
Final rear drive 3.900

Jiggerypokery

0-100 in 10.67 is really quite amazing! Should be an awesome drive.