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Old 17 March 2004, 09:18 AM
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well you have a point there but it seems to be the case that you are the only one who has found no difference using 95 RON fuel.
Fair point and acknowleged but I wonder how many people have been suckered into using SUL purely on the basis of what everybody does without having even tried NUL.

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Old 17 March 2004, 09:29 AM
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Tried both in my standard MY99 and to be honest I do notice slightly better economy with Optimax , and perhaps a little smoother but no noticable performance increase , I am using Optimax at the moment just because I want to look after the car as much as poss .

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Old 17 March 2004, 10:09 AM
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this has been a really interesting read, i've still got one question for my00 uk car, do i need to disconnect the battery over night to reset ecu when filling up with sul. Also should i use optimax or just normal super unleaded as they sell plenty of both where i live in maidenhead. I'm getting the idea that the BP ultimate stuff isnt going down as well with you guys.

I'm gonna give this a go for a while and see what happens
Old 17 March 2004, 10:17 AM
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Stonkin.....on a MY00 car the ecu 'learns' quicker than older ones so I don't think you will need to reset ,it should only take a tank full or so and it'll be sorted .


Dave

Also a bit of info here ..http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm#2.4

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Old 17 March 2004, 10:44 AM
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I have used normal, super, Optimax and BP Ultimate in mine over the 2 years I have had it. In terms of smoothness, Optimax delivers the best performance in acceleration. In terms of efficiency, SUL and BP seem to get the most miles from a tank. I only use normal if I'm running on fumes and nothing better is available.

Mine is a standard MY97 UK Turbo. I think the Super I use is from Texaco - seems pretty decent. Just costs loads more than Optimax for some reason!
Old 17 March 2004, 11:04 AM
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cheers Dave, what would u advise as far as using normal SUL or trying optimax or BP Ultimate?

thanks again
Old 17 March 2004, 11:15 AM
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Stonkin.....I use Optimax , mainly because of Price (it's just above 80p a litre at my nearest Shell , whereas my nearest petrol stn want about 86p a litre for their SUL !!!!) , I believe Optimax is rated at 98 ron ( as long as it hasen't been lying around in the tank for ages) and most other SUL (ESSO, BP ETC) is 97 ron . But as I said earlier I don't notice any difference in performance with any of them , just a little smoother

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Old 17 March 2004, 12:05 PM
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cheers Dave, right now to finish off that 1/2 tank of NUL!! sure that wont take long
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Leave it ticking over for 10 minutes ...should do the trick
Old 17 March 2004, 07:11 PM
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Well i usually get about 320 miles to a tank of NUL. Stuck optimax in, and ran it all through. I've since put another full tank in - drove exactly the same as with NUL, and 270miles for the tank. Not sure where the "better economy" comes from.


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Old 17 March 2004, 07:35 PM
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Andy

Have you tried it in forward gears

Old 17 March 2004, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Stonkin
cheers Dave, right now to finish off that 1/2 tank of NUL!! sure that wont take long
Lol! Don't go ragging it, last thing you should be doing on Premium!
Old 17 March 2004, 10:18 PM
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Cheeky barsteward greg. I can't afford to go over 2500 revs. I need to rig up a light, similar to low fuel, but its low £ light, for when i rev over 2500 LOL

Andy
Old 17 March 2004, 10:42 PM
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I have a UKMY00 ppp and have always tried to run the Scoob on Optimax. I have also tried BP Ultimate but last weekend I filled her up with a full tank of Sainsburys SUL. All I can say is the car definitely seems happier on the SUL - ticks over better and the acceleration feels much smoother too. At a difference of 4p per litre I'm afraid I will be sticking with the SUL rather than optimax for the time being Just my 2 pennies worth
Old 18 March 2004, 02:12 PM
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Just run a full tank of optimax and reset ECU and I can notice a change the engine seems to idle better more stable engine revs sweeter and seems quieter I can hear the turbo and exhaust more. I will be sticking to Optimax its only 80.9p a litre compared too 76.9p for normal cant complain really.
Old 19 March 2004, 03:49 PM
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I've heard some anecdotes of BP Ultimate being more prone to det than with Optimax; eg. Knocklink lights up more with Ultimate.

Anyone else noticed this ?
Old 19 March 2004, 03:51 PM
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Yes, Optimax is a higher RON (98.6) than Ultimate. Ultimate is only a conventional SUL, and is rated at 97.
Old 19 March 2004, 04:20 PM
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Put a tank full of ultimate in mine and she wasn't happy, might have been a bad tank full not sure, but i am not too keen on trying it again.
Old 20 March 2004, 01:10 PM
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I have had my MY03 WRX for 2 months now, the first owner used to put only Optimax in & I remember that the drive home was great !

I then started to fillup with Esso SUL for about four weeks, but the car seemed to be getting smooth, but not as savage when givig it some berry's !

I then switched back to Optimax, & I am on my fifth tank allready (jesus ...they ain't too good on fule are they !!!) and it feels like it pulls harder again, and possibly a little bit louder or maybe its just me.

I will keep trying other options, but only SUL 97RON or above !

PS .. I get about 230 miles from £40 worth of Optimax, Is this typical ?
Old 20 March 2004, 03:39 PM
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nope not typical I would get 190miles on £40
Old 20 March 2004, 03:41 PM
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I'll see what i can manage next week after running a few tanks through. Mine might improve. I've noticed Optimax in Cheltenham is only 1p more than NUL in kidderminster so thats good. No Tescos points though

Andy

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Old 20 March 2004, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
nope not typical I would get 190miles on £40
I probably average 230/240 on £40 of Optimax. 190 is not typical but I do see it occasionally. I've also seen over 300 but again not typical, cant sit on the motorway at 70/80 for a whole tankful, it is a scooby after all
Old 20 March 2004, 03:56 PM
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I put in £30 Optimax at a time and do a range of mixed driving from motorway congestion, hammering the hell out of it on back roads, motorway cruising (not saying at what speed) and I generally get 200 - 225 miles from mine. If I put in £40 I would expect to get circa 300 miles if I was not going crazy all day long. A bad £30 worth for me if I hammer it is about 180 miles.

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Old 21 March 2004, 11:29 AM
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i get 230-250 on £40 of optimax my02 wrx thats on the hilly twisties in the peak district.
Old 21 March 2004, 12:30 PM
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FWIW I know someone at Shell so I asked them about Optimax. Apparently they did a survey on fuel in pertol sations and the average RON for Optimax was 98.2.
Old 21 March 2004, 07:03 PM
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can someone post a step by step for reseting the ecu (no search facility)

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Old 21 March 2004, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MarksWRX
I probably average 230/240 on £40 of Optimax. 190 is not typical but I do see it occasionally. I've also seen over 300 but again not typical, cant sit on the motorway at 70/80 for a whole tankful, it is a scooby after all

Its typical for my car but my car is not typical
Old 21 March 2004, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Its typical for my car but my car is not typical
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