Lord Shrek

'all i wanna say is sheikh will be in heaven tonight God willing while his butchers will burn in hell ameen '

that comment really does unveil your true sentiments Moses

as if the leader of hamas isnt repsonsible for the deaths of innocents

and he is worthy of heaven...wtf....thats like saying adolf hitler should be canonised

please dont say you condemn ALL terrorism which is simply not true with words like that

where is leslie the voice of reason

moses

he is less a murder than the israeli prime ministers and i condemn terrorism but he was a child of israel a product made by their aggression

bravo do u really want me to go round circles all the time, its getting boring

Ted Maul

good riddance if you ask me. terrible decision though for the prospect of peace.

Geezer

Then Hitler was a child of France and Britain. Does that justify his actions? Of course not!

Geezer

kieron

maybe hitler could see into the future

super slider

i wonder if people's attitudes towards this would change if we had regular bomb attacks in the UK, not just the threat of one (god forbid we dont have one). easy to comment on when we don't experience suicide bombings (and the like) commited with no thought for the innocent.
Michael

moses

super slider well palestinian parents dont like their kids getting butchered either and getting bombed day and night yes we havent experienced the terrorism of f-16s and apache helicopters either, we would have the same attitude of the suicide bombers too


and edited too add bravo

i didnt respect or like sheikh yassin much i always used to condemn him coz he never used to practice what he preached, he never used to send his own flesh and blood his children to be martyrs while he used to tell others do to it but today i have alot of respect for him and luv, a blind helpless paraylsed man if he can be condemned to death so should all israeli officials and mp;s rabbis and other evil world leaders

Brendan Hughes

And the IRA bombing shopping centres was what, exactly?

SomeDude

I wonder why it was necessary to ask "is Moses ill" TBH.

The only way we can have debates is when we try to not get personal or take snipe shots. I somehow feel we are "on parol" at the moment, so maybe we should drop personal or emotional responses for a while ? (that goes for you too Moses, but I'm not singling you out OK?).

It's clear for all that there is no more difference between the atrocities at both sides at the moment. Downward spiral.

Most European countries have condemned the assasination. I agree. Whatever logic you use or sympathies you have: this will not solve anything, it will make the problems worse.

You can not "fight terrorism" by using their own methods. You have to condemn it from whatever side it comes. You can't justify the killing of one person by killing another one. Well, you can try, but you ignore at least 500 years of civilization & thinking.

Kill Hamas leadership, and you spawn 30 more Hamas leaders.

I'm not religious, but I will "pray" for the people in that area, as things only seem to get worse with each year passing by, with no possible solution in sight.

What a fcking mess. What a waste of lives.

moses

well said somedude

moses

latest reaction to the killing of the sheikh

13 british soldiers injured by a crow who threw a grenade while shouting we are the children of yassin

thanks to israel ,3 israels stabbed and injured too

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BBC News On UK Troops Injured

Not quite as a reaction to todays murder of Sheikh Yassin but assuredly not helping the situation in Iraq

SomeDude

Moses, the "thanks to Israel" has the same logical flaw as saying "those muslims" etc...

I think the cat is out of the bag, and more people are expected to be killed in the name of something today/tonight. I don't expect this to stop soon, and I fear genocide to be honest.

Basically, they are killed because some people seem to have developped a total disrespect for human life. State sponsored or "group" sponsored, what's the difference in the end ?

If only you could find it in your heart to not see this as "muslim/zionist" thing but as "extremists killing each other" (I think deep down you do think that way) at least CWE would be a nicer place

You do not have to defend people that you don't agree with just because other people are attacking you in a silly way.

Hamas wants power, not peace. Same goes for the Israeli government. The bystanders who get killed/wounded in all this are the real victims, irrespective of what race/belief/colour/type of car.

Simplistic ? You bet. But in the end, that's what is happening.

Lord Shrek

puff why edit/delete my post

it wasnt offensive

stating my opinion on what moses said about the hamas leader

or are you taking this moderating too seriously like a little hitler

wtf is the point of having a debate if you edit/delete the whole time

waste of time IMHO

get a life mate

SomeDude

Shrek, what a balanced post

I've met Puff, and I may even be very critical of some of his moderation actions, but "Hitler"... please grow up.

You are just adding to the confusion, not even a spark of original thought.

"Next" ?

Brit_in_Japan

I can't fathom the Israeli govt's logic in doing this. Surely there's no-one in their cabinet who thinks this can bring peace nearer. Are they hoping to provoke the response of mass suicide bombings so that they justify the building of their own "Berlin wall"?

Could they be that cynical ?

greasemonkey

A frightening comment. A decade or two ago Sharon was regarded as a hardliner; let it not be forgotten that it was he who authorised the massacres in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

If he's now supposedly a moderate, I hope it's because he's mellowed rather than that he's surrounded by a bunch of even nuttier individuals.

Lord Shrek

'I've met Puff'

what do you want...a medal??????

Nimbus

Because it had reached post 16 with any comments from him. 'twas a light harted comment. Not sure what you're getting at.

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Shrek

I may have been a little hasty this time in removing your post this time - apologies.

Unfortunately, your previous history and style goes against you when quickly reading a lot in a short time.

I have reviewed it again and on second closer viewing it is clearly not intended as I first thought. I have un-deleted it, though I have removed your somewhat beligerant tale-tale - prehaps you could not put them in in future please?

Thanks

Puff

Lord Shrek

ill tell you why Nimbus

This forum is plagued by ppl who take comments too seriously

lighten up ffs

super slider

is Israel as bad as the Palestinian or Hamas terrorists? would Israel use a nuclear bomb against its enemies - very unlikely. would terrorists use a nuclear bomb against their enemies - very likely. Seems a big difference to me. Fanaticals against a democratically elected government.

turboman786

Israel and the zionist movement are the biggest threat to world peace. Their arrogance holds no limits....How they think that killing Sheikh Yasib will assist them in any way shape or form is beyond me.

Geezer

did it pull the pin out with it's beak?

Geezer

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super slider

The whole point of them having a nuclear weapon is that they can and would use it if threatened/cornered.

Of all the countries in the world, the one most likely to lob a nuc at its enemies is Israel.

Whilst flattening the Gaza Strip probably appeals to them ( ) they are unlikely to do that, but should an Arab agressor start to get the upper hand (unlikely as it may currently seem) then they will use one & the rest of the world can whistle.

They are truly scary *****


& the other scary thing is that Sharron has probably killed Sheikh Yassin to appease the hardliners & ensure that he gets elected next time round - imho no better than Saddam except at least Saddam was honest enough not to have elections!

Pbr

North Korea is more likely to do so, it has repeatedly threatened to do so and is led by a mentally unbalanced self appointed leader; as for Sharon, he may be the antithesis of what we in the West see as a responsible leader (and certainly isn't who I would have voted for if I were an Israeli) but he is democratically elected, a point often forgotten in a region of autocratic regimes.If by this you mean Israel would use it's nuclear weapons if it's survival was threatened, then that would make Israels "nuclear option" exactly the same as any state that posesses such weapons, they are there to function as a deterrent to prevent attack, and in the last resort as a weapon to repel such an attack.

The nuclear policy of the US, Russia, France, India etc does not differ in principle from this, although of the current crop of nuclear powers only Israel, Pakistan and India could consider themselves directly threatened, so it ill becomes the leaders and politicians of the other powers to preach from on high about posession and potential use of such weapons.

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