Should Horses be banned from the road.
29 March 2004, 01:55 PM
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Sorry, i was advovcating horseramming.
Mind you sticking the rider on the BBQ may leave you with some explaining to do
29 March 2004, 01:58 PM
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Living "in the sticks" I'm in far more danger from mothers in 4x4 and "youths" in hot hatches than horses. - Like the on who failed to see a flat bed recovery truck (complete with Flashing amber beacons) stationary outside my house and despite it being a 30 mph country road managed a nice 20 yard skid to within inches of the truck.
I suppose in order we can all drive everywhere with our eyes shut we should ban recovery trucks aswell.....
Deano
I suppose in order we can all drive everywhere with our eyes shut we should ban recovery trucks aswell.....
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29 March 2004, 02:06 PM
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Sorry being an ignorant city boy i wasn't very aware of the 'laws of the countryside'.
I'm usually only there to drive my car as fast as possible down tight windy roads with no regard for other users!
... oh, and the occasional bit of flytipping.
I'm usually only there to drive my car as fast as possible down tight windy roads with no regard for other users!
... oh, and the occasional bit of flytipping.
29 March 2004, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
If you chopped up a horse you would be left with horsemeat and not dogmeat, even Davegtt knows that!!
Yes you have the legal right but that was why the thread was started. "Should horses be banned from the roads" so we were invited to give our views. Your views however started with an air of superiority that was soon stemmed.
Of course everyone needs to be tolerant of the fact but I don't recall anyone saying they were going to "horseram" next time they saw one out on the roads.
Still can't believe you think you'd get dogmeat from a horse, wait till I tell Davegtt.
Yes you have the legal right but that was why the thread was started. "Should horses be banned from the roads" so we were invited to give our views. Your views however started with an air of superiority that was soon stemmed.
Of course everyone needs to be tolerant of the fact but I don't recall anyone saying they were going to "horseram" next time they saw one out on the roads.
Still can't believe you think you'd get dogmeat from a horse, wait till I tell Davegtt.
29 March 2004, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Also, if people didn't ride horses on the road then they also wouldn't need bits of metal nailing to their feet which has got to be better for the horse too!
Originally Posted by Biggins
Suprised nobody has mentioned the horseshoe!! Without man nailing these babies to the Gee Gee's hoof, they surely wouldn't CHOOSE to plod along on tarmac.
29 March 2004, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
aii Dave does know you'd have horsemeat and not dog meat but I still get the feeling theres some digs at me there that might have whooosssshhhed over my head
29 March 2004, 02:38 PM
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Spoon, sounded to me you was being sarcy to the other Dave but something was telling me there was a dig at me although I couldnt see it
Im not as knowledgeable and smart as some people on here u see 
Im not as knowledgeable and smart as some people on here u see
29 March 2004, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Spoon, sounded to me you was being sarcy to the other Dave but something was telling me there was a dig at me although I couldnt see it
Im not as knowledgeable and smart as some people on here u see
Im not as knowledgeable and smart as some people on here u see
29 March 2004, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Dave, no dig at you at all, on the contrary. It was an ideal opportunity to highlight the irony in Dave T-S's pomposity on your behalf.
29 March 2004, 04:10 PM
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Dave, no dig at you at all, on the contrary. It was an ideal opportunity to highlight the irony in Dave T-S's pomposity on your behalf.
29 March 2004, 08:54 PM
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I've been thinking about this, and I think that a lot of the problems stem from the discrepancy in speeds between horses and cars, and the alarm that this can cause the tardy quadruped.
Now, if I were to amble along the motorway at 25mph, I wouldn't expect you all to slow down and give me a wide berth as you coast past in neutral. Far from it, I would expect you to go on about your business at normal speeds. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if one of "Britain's finest" pulled me over and warned me to proceed at a more appropriate pace i.e. one closer to, but not necessarily at or over, the applicable speed limit .
As a result, my proposal is that horses should also be required to proceed at a more appropriate pace, so say 20mph through towns and built up areas, and stick to a steady 50 or so on dual carriageways and the like.
In this way, a lot of the speed discrepancy could be removed and the horse would have a bit of fun too, instead of just plodding around at walking pace with some bony ar5ed, anorexic, foul tempered, dwarf on their back or, worse, some huge, redfaced, huge-arsed, inbred, braying horsey type, they could stretch their legs a bit and chase down BMW 318's and Saxo's (and weasels).
Now, if I were to amble along the motorway at 25mph, I wouldn't expect you all to slow down and give me a wide berth as you coast past in neutral. Far from it, I would expect you to go on about your business at normal speeds. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if one of "Britain's finest" pulled me over and warned me to proceed at a more appropriate pace i.e. one closer to, but not necessarily at or over, the applicable speed limit .
As a result, my proposal is that horses should also be required to proceed at a more appropriate pace, so say 20mph through towns and built up areas, and stick to a steady 50 or so on dual carriageways and the like.
In this way, a lot of the speed discrepancy could be removed and the horse would have a bit of fun too, instead of just plodding around at walking pace with some bony ar5ed, anorexic, foul tempered, dwarf on their back or, worse, some huge, redfaced, huge-arsed, inbred, braying horsey type, they could stretch their legs a bit and chase down BMW 318's and Saxo's (and weasels).
30 March 2004, 08:48 AM
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I can see both sides of this. I'm a Scoob-driving petrolhead, but my g/f rides horses daily (works with 'em). In my opinion; ban them from the roads.
Horses do spook for no reason, and sometimes they do act uncontrollably. When this is in the context of riding on the road, this can be downright dangerous. Drivers don't appreciate what horses could do, and they don't appreciate the potential damage to horse and rider if an accident were to happen. So, there are ways a driver can negotiate horses in the road more safely. However, if I knew that my car were to be likely to act randomly and unpredictably I could not (with good conscience) take it onto the road. Let alone vilify anyone who I had an incident with!
Sorry... horses have no place on modern roads. (just don't tell my g/f I said that! 
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I don't know if comprehensive insurance is mandatory for horses/riders, but it should be. I have no problem with horseboxes. They're no worse than other slow goods vehicles or caravans.
Horses do spook for no reason, and sometimes they do act uncontrollably. When this is in the context of riding on the road, this can be downright dangerous. Drivers don't appreciate what horses could do, and they don't appreciate the potential damage to horse and rider if an accident were to happen. So, there are ways a driver can negotiate horses in the road more safely. However, if I knew that my car were to be likely to act randomly and unpredictably I could not (with good conscience) take it onto the road. Let alone vilify anyone who I had an incident with!
Sorry... horses have no place on modern roads. (just don't tell my g/f I said that! )I don't know if comprehensive insurance is mandatory for horses/riders, but it should be. I have no problem with horseboxes. They're no worse than other slow goods vehicles or caravans.
30 March 2004, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatman
Horses do spook for no reason, and sometimes they do act uncontrollably. When this is in the context of riding on the road, this can be downright dangerous. Drivers don't appreciate what horses could do, and they don't appreciate the potential damage to horse and rider if an accident were to happen. So, there are ways a driver can negotiate horses in the road more safely. However, if I knew that my car were to be likely to act randomly and unpredictably I could not (with good conscience) take it onto the road. Let alone vilify anyone who I had an incident with! Sorry... horses have no place on modern roads. (just don't tell my g/f I said that! )
Sorry... horses have no place on modern roads. (just don't tell my g/f I said that! )...Women drivers do spook for no reason, and sometimes they do act uncontrollably. When this is in the context of driving on the road, this can be downright dangerous....
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30 March 2004, 10:33 AM
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My opinion
As a pass Horse owner, I disagree in banning them. But I can understand where most of you are coming from.
One of my horses was a good boy on the road.... Trucks will zoom pass and he wouldnt be bothered. But my other horse I had, he didnt like the road much, i discovered this when walking thru a village and he just started to jog on the spot, after that I remained on very quiet roads and mainly bridle ways.
I personally believe that if a horse owner knows that their horse isnt safe on the road then they dont take them out on the road simple as that.
As for slowing down to a slow pace.... Do you all slow down for cyclist on the side of the road, and if its a lane and people walking you slow down, this is just the same as a horse, Horses are mainly spooked because something made them spooked. like some nutty driver not slowing down etc.
Next it will be getting road tax for Horses
Sorry just had to have my say
One of my horses was a good boy on the road.... Trucks will zoom pass and he wouldnt be bothered. But my other horse I had, he didnt like the road much, i discovered this when walking thru a village and he just started to jog on the spot, after that I remained on very quiet roads and mainly bridle ways.
I personally believe that if a horse owner knows that their horse isnt safe on the road then they dont take them out on the road simple as that.
As for slowing down to a slow pace.... Do you all slow down for cyclist on the side of the road, and if its a lane and people walking you slow down, this is just the same as a horse, Horses are mainly spooked because something made them spooked. like some nutty driver not slowing down etc.
Next it will be getting road tax for Horses
Sorry just had to have my say
30 March 2004, 11:02 AM
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Being highly allergic to horses, I think we should just eject them all into space and have done with it, would make my life more pleasant.
going back to CO2 emmisions though and all that gear, one of the reasons that the motorist get's taxed is because we cause so much pollution. well did anyone happen to see that article in last months top gear mag about emmisions, I was quite surprised to see how much CO2 is produced by a large animal. perhaps we should all be taxed for living! actually, we already are!
back on topic though, ban horses from the road and ban cyclists from dual carriageways/any fast dangerous road especially in rush hour
James
going back to CO2 emmisions though and all that gear, one of the reasons that the motorist get's taxed is because we cause so much pollution. well did anyone happen to see that article in last months top gear mag about emmisions, I was quite surprised to see how much CO2 is produced by a large animal. perhaps we should all be taxed for living! actually, we already are!
back on topic though, ban horses from the road and ban cyclists from dual carriageways/any fast dangerous road especially in rush hour
James
30 March 2004, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SHESCOOBY
As for slowing down to a slow pace.... Do you all slow down for cyclist on the side of the road, and if its a lane and people walking you slow down, this is just the same as a horse, Horses are mainly spooked because something made them spooked. like some nutty driver not slowing down etc.
No mater how much a rider may think they are in control of a horse, they only have control because the horse lets them. At any point a horse chooses, it can take control of itself and do whatever it wants! Bicycles and walking boots can't take over!
What I don't really understand is why a rider ever really needs to take a horse onto a public road. Sure, you may be on a bridalway which crosses a road. Its not like people actually use the horses as a mode of transport. People are riding the horses for their own pleasure and to excercise the horse, so it doesn't matter where you actually take it. When I go mountain-biking, I'll plan a route to avoid using any public roads - thats the whole point. Why can't horse riders do the same?
Riding on bridalways, across fields, in forrests etc. Its far safer for the horse, rider and all road users (including cyclists). I'm also quite sure the horse would be much happier on a quiet bridalway which is soft underfoot than a reasonably quiet country lane which is hard tarmac. I also think a horse would be happier on a busier road where cars a consistently passing than on a quiet lane where a car may come as a surprise!
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30 March 2004, 11:14 AM
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When I go mountain-biking, I'll plan a route to avoid using any public roads - thats the whole point. Why can't horse riders do the same?
Personally I think they should invent horse-racks for the back of cars and use a bungee rope to tie the ******* on (as horse boxes are already on the hit-list from earlier on on the thread
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30 March 2004, 12:01 PM
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I'm not really against horse boxes, no different from caravans or other trailers (OK, I am against them, but I don't feel the need to ban them ). When I mountain bike, I put the bike in/on the car and drive to a suitable starting point. Horse riders should do the same taking their horse in a horse box.
My agreement with banning horses from the road is not because I don't like horses (and I really don't like horses!), its out of a concern for safety for all parties concerned, including the horse and rider. Horses and carts, fine, the horse is sufficiently restrained, but horse with a person on top - No-need to be on the road!
). When I mountain bike, I put the bike in/on the car and drive to a suitable starting point. Horse riders should do the same taking their horse in a horse box.My agreement with banning horses from the road is not because I don't like horses (and I really don't like horses!), its out of a concern for safety for all parties concerned, including the horse and rider. Horses and carts, fine, the horse is sufficiently restrained, but horse with a person on top - No-need to be on the road!