ProperCharlie

SteveLegacyToo

Something like that, got into Hong Kong, then headed over here.

Spoon

I love a fiesty bítch, go girl, you tell them.

Prince Popeye

'We are, always have been, and I hope always will be a nation tolerant to differences and change.'

Fair enough but why should we change our culture so as not not offend others? If I go to another country I respect their culture.

As for you're argument about asylum seekers Tiggers I see you're point. There are thousands of 'white trash' scrounging and living a freebie on the welfare state, BUT the point is do we need thousands more coming into this country albeit workers or illegals???

CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME NOT HALF THE FLIPPING WORLD.

e.g my grandmother had her hip operation delayed for 18 months. We found out this was due to an overburden on the system coz of asylum seekers. I mean WTF???

END OF RANT

ProperCharlie

too late spoon - my giant burberry handbag KO'd her.

Spoon

I'm sure she'll be back.

MattW

Statistically there will be a proportion of asylum seekers who are bogus. Statistically some of the them, bogus or not will be lazy f*ckwits who want to sit on their backsides and claim benefits.
Statistically a proportion of the UK population as a whole will also be lazy scrounging gits.

So what's the problem, is it that you would prefer Kevin on the corner to claim invalidity benefit fraudlantly rather than Abdul from Afganistan???

The immigration of Pakistani, Indian And West Indian (in the main) people in the 50's and 60's has proved that the majority of immigrants are intelligent and hard working people who have made a major contribution to the economy.

Yes, we are a soft touch when it comes to benefits, but I was more peeved to see that fat bird on tv getting 36k pa in benefit than some dodgy east european getting £30 a week.

davegtt

OK if people are under the influence that alot of asylum seekers are here to be hard working then why did they coose britian? a place where property is over priced, products are over priced etc etc, why didnt they go to other countries to work just as hard?

answer me that?

MattW

Dave, I can't answer that. What I'm trying to point out is that "the" problem stems from our benefits system.

If your floor is flooded its one thing to keep mopping the water up, another to turn the tap off.

Have you also considered that maybe those who do want to work either can't because of govt rules, or because they are discriminated against on the basis that they are all lazy scroungers??

davegtt

Matt, how many asylum seekers do u get up north wales? not manyI bet, I mean apart from the fact u have too many yorkshire sheep in the area

joking aside, I moved from Manchester to grantham in 95, I was amazed how I didnt see ANY asian people let alone an asylum seeker, look around today and pubs are over run by people from Portugal and the like (now portugal is a good topic changer, they aint here because of any wars, what are they here for, maybe because they heard move here they get a free house and monthly money ) what Im trying to say is that 9 years ago this town was free from any cultural differences yet now its awful, trouble all the time coming directly from these crowds, Ive seen it first hand, and to think Im paying for them to be here is just ridiculous

ProperCharlie

well this is my last comment on the matter:

MattW

Dave

I'm in Swindon now unfortunately . I grew up in North Wales and as a kid it was rare to see someone from another race, I can't think of anyone in my school year who wasn't white, unbelievable to think.

But I remember back then my Mum would n't allow me to be friends with some people beacause they came from the local council estate. How mad is that??

Unfortunately, difference breeds fear and hatred, I'm not disagreeing with your opinion, and I'm not suggesting it's wrong, I just think SOME people should look at the wider problem. Why get p1ssed off because some Albanians claim benefits, and not get bothered because some lazy Scouser, Manc, Geordie, Scot, Brummie, etc does the same.

davegtt

hey, I do get pi55ed off, BUT the government should be stopping this not encouraging it by allowing foriegners to come and cash in, if we are letting any body do it we are encouraging our growing youth to do it, then what would happen when we are paying out in 10 years time benefits to more people than are contributing to the system, it has to stop and it has to stop with the asylum seekers FIRST...

all IMO off course

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Basically wherever you are from you need to contribute to society for things to progress,

1/ We need to look after those not able to contribute because they are not able through illness or disability.

2/ We need to root out those not contributing for other 'reasons' and MAKE them contribute.

davegtt

agreed, if u aint contributing to the system by means of tax then maybe they should be contributing to cleaning up the towns/cities, maybe they might decide thats a cr@p job and actually go out and get a decent job and have to contribute somehow.

doing that may also be the answer to another thread recently about how we can clean up britain

Dracoro

davegtt - are you seriously saying that we should stop accepting asylum seekers?

the government need to clamp down on illegal immigration, NOT asylum seekers.

hmm, don't people here read the posts, this has been clarified many times yet people still go back to daily mail/sun/mirror mentality.

DON'T confuse aslyum seekers with illegal immigration.

<sits back and waits for more people to completely not understand what has just been said>

Prince Popeye

'DON'T confuse aslyum seekers with illegal immigration.'


I think it already is confused. My hometown has become overrun with these parasites. We have enough problems with Kevin and Wayne on our council estates let alone 10 thousand black leather jackets with a huggi bear hairstyle who cruise around at night curb crawling in their old cavaliers.
What makes me laugh is this governement put these illegals in poor areas creating ghettos YET the moment an affluent area is hit with the prospect of an asylum centre, then everyone rallies around the town hall ranting and raving about how they don't want it. NIMBIES!!!!!!!!

Whats going to happen when we get hit by an economic depression? Keep paying higher taxes to fund the whole world? Why can't we help these people in their own country? Isn't that more sensible?

OllyK

Dracoro - I think the genuine assylum seekers still tend to make a rod for their own back. If you were threatended here in this country, your life was at risk from the government etc and you just had to get out, where would you go? I'd go to the first, closest safe place I could get to Ireland, France maybe, I sure as hell wouldn't try and get all the way to Romania or Afghanistan. Get to the first safe place and get yourself sorted.

So as the UK are one of the most westerly European states and we are an island and many of the assylum seekers are coming from the east or the south, why are so many ending up here? Why aren't they getting themseleves sorted in the first SAFE country they come to. If they did this almost none would come to Britain. I am not saying that we should stop genuine assylum seekers, just they should register for assylum at the first safe country, get everything sorted then go through the normal emmigration / immigration channels to come to the UK as an EU citizen.

davegtt

erm I think u wanna sit back and read whats been said. for a start I NEVER said stop accepting them, I said stop giving them as much as we do FFS!!!! how can u want to accept these people in and give them more than we give our own people?

and FYI, I dont read newspapers apart from the local journal every saturday to see what property is up for sale so I dont get any info what so ever from them I get my information from seeing these town wrecking scotes walk our streets at night scaring half of the town.

Geezer

For every story about asylum seekers causing trouble, you could find 10 about 'natural' brits causing trouble.

I live in an area where there are virtually no other ethnic groups, let alone immigrants or asylum seekrs, and do you know what, we still have a problem with scumbags ripping off the DHSS (or what ever it;s called now), joy riding, etc.

So what great national disaster are we actually gonna suffer because of this minority of poeple coming here? Probably none. Eventually they will just be absorbed into the coutnry like all other waves of immigrants before them.

It makes me laugh when people say these immigrants should adhere to our culture. Just what culture are they talking about? We are a mongrel race that has constantly had our 'culture' changed by the influx of other races.

It is annoying to see some of the instances that happen, but it's been blown up out of all proprtion.

Geezer

unclebuck

What about what happened recently in Wrexham then? That's North Wales.

Geezer

Well seeing as it's about 80 miles from one end of North Wales to the other, that's like saying that Chester and Halifax are the same place

Geezer

tiggers

NIMBIES ?????

Not In My Back Industrial Estate ?????



This place is priceless!!!

Dracoro

dave - apologies as I must've misread your post. It looked like you were saying stop asylum seekers. The punctutation of the post must've confused me.

Regarding the 1st available country - Well, we need to distribute asylum seekers else the nearest country would be well and truly swamped in some instances. If you leave the country by air, your nearest country may not be the first available country. It's also a bit unfair to ask a country very near the region to process ALL the asylum seekers! We can't even control a system dealing with a proportional amount, let alone expect a local country to deal with the whole lot! I also imagine that many asylum seekers want to get as far away as possible.
Most asylum seekers DON'T come here as the following link illustrates.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...efugees_go.stm

Prince Popeye

'I live in an area where there are virtually no other ethnic groups, let alone immigrants or asylum seekrs,'

What area is that? NIMBIE VILLE???? LOL and you are qualified on this subject as you've never probably seen an asylum seeker??

'So what great national disaster are we actually gonna suffer because of this minority of poeple coming here? Probably none. Eventually they will just be absorbed into the coutnry like all other waves of immigrants before them.'

Minority? Don't make me laugh. Asylum has quadrupled these last few years.

davegtt

Yeah then in 10 years time whos gonna be the minority then? thats a different argument though

Poor Guy

feckin kosovans

Cosworth427

davegtt - you're a bit of whiner and close-minded at that. And this goes to you too weapon69

What exactly do benefit claimers (foreign or "your own") spend the majority of their benefit money on?

Goods & services? And who provides 95% of goods and services in the UK?? That's right....UK companies. And 95% of employees and future employees of these companies are british workers of all shapes and sizes.

You own a "gtt"? I take it is a Nissan? All performance Nissan models are manufactured and financed in Japan.

EDIT: Or is a gtt a Renault 5 GT? A French manufacturer???

The majority of the money you pay for a imported car, either as the car in whole or the spare parts and servicing goes back to the corporation that sells the product. Now, if you care so much about looking after "your own" and minimising the amount of money thrown out of the country, you should have got yourself a Rover and contribute to the survival of a British car manufacturer.

Or are you too stupid to realise your double standards?

SomeDude

Good question tiggers.

Small fact: in France there are 4.3 million muslims at the moment, in the UK there are 1.2 million for the same overall population.

I guess some of these guys & girls didn't manage to "jump the train in Calais".

Per capita, most European countries have more "furriners" than the UK.

So the question "why do they all want to go to the UK" is not exactly based on facts.

Perception is a lovely thing.