davegtt

wtf!!!!

Im a whiner am I? because I have an opinion, OK mate, whatever...


actually I own a renault 5 gtt

why should I buy a rover, it'll contribute to the survival of a britsh car, well **** me, Id rather rover go outta business tbh I hate the damn things

right, so we are gonna make up statistics now are we. 95% of companies are UK are they, well the company thats keeping me in a job is canadian, the company that keeps my sister and my misses in a job is american, do u want me to go on, alot of BIG companies that employ alot of people are not from the UK.

If some1 wants to read my posts properly and break them down and make a comment on them feel free but to just scan over them and presume I am saying dont let any1 in, build a brick wall around the UK is stupid. Im more than happy for people to come over. alot of Indians have come over and are now operating as most of our GP's do I have a problem with that? NO. because they are contributing to a running country. thats why.

Why do people assume that because Im sick of seeing our government paying out to people who dont deserve it Im some sort or facist, racist or what ever u wanna call me?

and you call me "close-minded"

and btw Nissan employ plenty of people here in the UK by the way

Cosworth427

Yes, and Renault-Nissan is a French/Japanese company. Who manufactures and orginally supplies the cars and parts for Renault Cars?

By your logic, it is better to have zero car industry, higher unemployment due to a no longer existing domestic car manufacturer, deprive the treasury from any additional corporation tax and VAT from that deceased manufacturer,
than opposed to a situation where people are actually SPENDING money on UK goods and services.

Big corporations do not represent a large majority of all the tax paying organisations in the UK. How many supermarkets, retailers, manufacturers are British? How many household names?? THINK, dave, THINK.

I've read your posts just fine, and I have read the replies from other members here. It seems they possess more logic in one single sentence than your entire post.

No one forced you to make an opinion. But you decided to shoot your mouth off with ignorant trash, trash that can be easily refuted and disproven.

You avoided to refute my point about how most of the money spent from benefit claims are spent on UK goods and services. The Government knows a lot more about this economy than you ever will. The circulation of money is maintained, a generous benefit system is one way of doing it. Just because you have enough brain cells to use a keyboard to ramble, it doesn't mean it gives your opinions any substance.

OllyK

I am not saying they have to stay in the first country they come to, just be processed there.
Your are in real deep doodoo if you can leave your own country via air going through their customs etc

Bloody hell, looks like our manufacturing industry has just climbed out of the grave and sprung back in to full flow again. Come on! How many things can you find in your house that say "Made in Great Britain" on them??

moses

dracs post
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It's illegal immigration that's the problem, not asylum seekers. Illegal immigrants trying to get through the back door pretending to be asylum seekers. Press whipping things into a frenzy just to sell more papers doesn't help, neither does the controls in the immigration process. etc.
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well said and thats all im gonna say as u know what happens next

hee hee

but true i agree with drac

SomeDude

Sorry to be rather academic again, but can someone define "legal" vs "illigal" immigrants for me ?

Or is that such a fine line Daily Mail readers would not need to apply ?

PS: kudo's for ignoring my stats on the previous page, well done

PS2: good posts Corworth dude

ProperCharlie

SD - unfortunately that's how it goes round here. if your post doesn't start "why should i pay with my taxes for..." then it is skipped over. You would think that some of these guys are keeping the welfare state afloat on the taxes that they alone pay. they must be doing ok, huh?

Dracoro

The broadest definition of an illegal immigrant is someone who is present in the country without permission or in contravention of his or her conditions of stay.

some info here http://www.parliament.the-stationery.../187/18704.htm

moses

i was born a scotsman am i an illegal immigrant if i stay in england pmsl

Geezer

What planet are you on? There are 58 million people in the UK, the amount of immigrants would have to be on a huge scale to make any difference!

As for the comment about where I live, you will be surprised to know that there are lots of parts of Britain where this is the case.

And becasue I have never seen an asylum seeker I cannot comment? Well you're on dubious ground there then. SHould history teachers not teach history because they weren't there? Do you not comment on your football teams performance? I hope not, because you are probably not a professional footballer! And so on...........

Geezer

Prince Popeye

'And becasue I have never seen an asylum seeker I cannot comment? Well you're on dubious ground there then. SHould history teachers not teach history because they weren't there?'

Sigh -the point i was trying to make is that you don't live in these areas blighted by refugees so you can't see whats happening. You're ill-thought reply just says it all geezballs. LOL sillyman

Jye

u r all fun-A, huh huh huh

mart360

why cant we say no to asylum seekers????


if the purpose of asylum is to escape the country / regime of persecution , why do we have so many applicants...

is france oppressing its populus?? germany ??

i could understand if french or german citizens were queing up at calais..

but kosovans albanians bosnians??

surely france germany belgium switzaerland and the so called free balkan states should provide refuge ???


we should accept applicants from our neighbouring countrys

ie the french/ italians etc..

we have such problems because we have a government that is so scared to say no incase it gets criticism from its euro neighbours...

repeatedly we have with undue zeal implemented brussels bogus charters and regulations... whilst the other member states give the bird to there political masters....

prehaps by standing up to them and saying no we might achive a bit of credibility ...

TB.... wouldnt trust him with a box of matches.... he,d sell your soul to the devil if he thought he might get a superstate ....

he,s like the junior gang member eager to impress and promises the earth..

he,ll do anything to get acceptance at the expence of the nation..

wasnt it his government who introduced the whistleblowers charter???

so why have the whistleblowers been suspended....

if you fcuked up like this in any normal job you would be out the door

so why not him and his crap policys??


Mart

Cosworth427

Cheers, I just don't know why some people here are so rattled up about asylum seekers. I've seen plenty of hard working immigrants - especially from those Eastern Europe and I definately admire how they go the extra mile just to earn a few more honest quid.

moses

i do agree a lil with mart

fecking french just send us the asylum seekers, coz they dont wanna keep em their, just taking the mickey, they even let them roam the car parks and the police just stand their doing nothing and they know the asylum seekers are looking to hide in trucks or run across the tunnel


i feel sad for the good ones, their suffering coz of the minority of *****

mn_angrybeats

Well there are apparently 2 million illegal economic migrants in the UK at the moment, probably doing crap below average wage jobs that the dole scroungers do not want to do..........

The problem I have is they do not know who is coming into the country, it's an open door...unlike the majority of Europe

That little girl that was killed recently by an illegal immigrant should never have happened, he even managed to get a heart bypass operation on the NHS before he raped and killed that little girl. He didnt get checked out, if he did then they would have found out he was a serious convicted sex offender and told to **** off....

The PC brigade in Birmingham also told some primary school kids to remove Happy Christmas from some homemade Christmas cards as it would offend ethnic immigrant minorites....WTF ?? Ok to have a Sadam Hussain mosque just down the road though

FFS it's these PC idiots that are ruining this country don't blame the papers, don't be suprised at the next election the BMP will get their biggest vote ever....

Sad I know....

Dracoro

mart360. You clearly didn't read my earlier post with the link to where asylum seekers go.
They do, do you have facts that support your assumption that they don't? How do you know if they take more or less than we do. It's a FACT that GERMANY have taken MORE asylum seekers than we have (more than any other western country as it happens) as the following link illustrates (which I posted earlier but you obviously didn't check)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...efugees_go.stm

mn_angrybeats

Dracoro why quote figures about Asylum Seakers when illegal immigrants are the problem ??

The Government hasnt got a clue how many there are, the UK in an open door to these economic migrants, Asylum is a small percentage

moses

angrybeats the chavs and non bronze skin people are majority of the dole scroungers how do u stop that

mn_angrybeats

I'd get them to work for their money, the streets are covered in rubbish maybe for their giro cheque they could pick up litter for 6hrs a day

moses

lol is that all i say lets throw them to the dogs and their burberry caps


and hey its good to get a hint of cwe when u are about

mn_angrybeats

It's far to easy to get money in this country breeds a load of layabouts

God knows how they do it though as I have a few days off work and I get bored sh*tless.

moses

lol i bet u do too , dont lie


i have never in my life, God has given us hands to work and its insulting to get money from the goverment when u are healthy to work and find a job, but scumbags do it all the time and then they blame the paki down the road with a nice bmw

moses

i sure do bros


nite mate i couldnt sleep its 02.11 im drinking fanta and i feel like eating some scrambled eggs and cheese and matzo's

but my wife will know in the morning ive been up on the net and she will surely kill me, i aint allowed on it haha, so im gonna go to sleep on an empty stomach , woman always know, she just told me yesterday she can tell when ive been on the net at night, its the way she sits the chair and **** i forgot what way it was sitting so i will try my best
we had a deal no net for 4 weeks

fatherpierre

LOL.

You got me laughing on my own.

ariel

Classic one from Moses at last! LOL LOL

Geezer

And you point illustrates why your view is just as one sided as you think mine is you muppet!

If you live in an area 'blighted' by asylum seekers, then you are unaware of all the areas (which is still very much the majority) that are totally unaffected by them (apart from the small drain on the national treasury, granted).

Geezer

davegtt

if u didnt notice I own a renault 5. how many bits do u think I buy from the dealer, get a graip


Supermarkets, like ASDA, who belong to wallmart who employ my misses, AMERICAN!!!!!



Yeah sure I shoot my mouth off. OK matey what ever you say because youve seen a hard working immigrant it doesnt mean I havent seen 10 un hard working 1's in the country claiming benefits and wasting it in the pub before going out attacking the locals.... do u wanna disprove that??? AGAIN, if u take time out to READ my posts you'll realise Im saying let the buggers in but dont pay for them to live here, if we are giving them an easy ride then they'll take advantage and come here. FFS its not rocket science, great if they are gonna work hard for it I'll appluad them but I completely disagree with letting them come here and not contribute to society.



lmao, did I ever say I have the knowledge to run the country better than the government? no I didnt did I. what is this all about then?

"The circulation of money is maintained, a generous benefit system is one way of doing it."

yeah the circulation is going on, we can afford to pay for these spongers because taxes get raise, and if we can afford it why are we borrowing that stupid amount of money announced at the budget? eh?