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Old 02 April 2004, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosworth427
Talk about answering your own question ...

Now answer this....How many British citizens who happen to be in Australian, were then attacked, hurled abuse upon, and/or had their property vandaled by Australians simply because you was British?
firstly its australia not australian

dunno would u like to enlighten me? as many as white people who was attacked in Zimbabwe for being white? u aint exactly strengthening your argument here, Im asking about why we dont take offense to being called poms and you waffle on about how many brits were attacked because we was british??? your going completely off your track of argument.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Too many insults flying around - anymore and thread will be closed.
thanks for pointing this out.

Im quite enjoying a sensible debate here people (cosworth) can we stop the insults to carry the debate on.

thanks
Old 02 April 2004, 03:14 PM
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Move the political debates from CWE and look what happens....... now thats ironic.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:26 PM
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Just decided to do a bit of reading as few posts got me thinking.

Race: A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
Ethnic: Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
It would seem that there is a confusion generally about racisim. Looking at the definition of "race" I can't imagine there is actually much of a "racial" issue within this country. Why do I say that, well if you are a British Citizen then you are a member of the "British Race". So an attack on white Brit by and asian Brit or vice versa is not a racial attack, it is an ethnic attack.

Now what if a white brit attacks a non white brit, who's only language is English, is the same religion and holds British values. Is that an ethnic attack? By definition no, it is either just an attack or an attack because of skin colour, which is yet another thing to throw in the pot.

So what am I getting at with all this? It comes down to people pigeon holeing other people on some arbitary basis: Skin colour, actual or supposed country of origin, actual or supposed religious beliefs and so.

I think you have to take each person on their merits and try to avoid sterotyping them. Have good friends of varying skin colour, country of origin, religious beliefs etc. Also know people with different beliefs, origins and skin colour who I think are to$$ers, but that based on them not a pigeon hole they fit in.

So....back to assylum seekers....
Old 02 April 2004, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
I don't follow your point. Nobody is saying that Brits don't get abused because of their country of origin. The comment was that the term "Pom" doesn't tend to bother many people over here, having your head kicked in is a different story.
Of course the term "Pom" doesn't bother anyone here.

The term "Pom" wasn't invented nor propagated by racial motivated gangs or individuals with intent to cause harm against anyone who happens to be British. Unlike the term "paki".

Secondly, Australians are the minority. They respresent no community in the UK. Very little influence on the social structure. No British citizen is walking in fear in any UK city in the event of descrimination by a not so nice Aussie tourist!

Originally Posted by Bravo2Zero
Your judge and jurour as to who is deserving of abuse and insults are you? Why not try and debate your points like an adult instead of resorting to child like insults
Because I choose to speak a level of language that people like yourself can only understand. Playing Mr Nice Guy in here will not get heard. You may not like me very much, but you are definately paying attention. That's what counts.

dunno would u like to enlighten me? as many as white people who was attacked in Zimbabwe for being white? u aint exactly strengthening your argument here
Not strengthening my arguement?? hahahha....

Then why dont YOU tell those white victims to STFU and not to take offence to the term "white devil", the next time any non-white individual calls them by that name for a "jibe".

Seriously, if these victims or relatives to victims of the Zimbabwe issue heard that phrase, I serious doubt that can detach the sting of it from the trouble the experienced in Zimbabwe.

Not only are you ignorant to immigrants and ethnic minorities , but you're ignorant to whites too.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:31 PM
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I had an Irish Racist go off on one when I was on a lads weekend in Dublin, had a brilliant weekend mixing with the Irish and yet it was spoiled by one idiot...

He was only 20' odd and he was talking about 100's years of hurt, U English *****rs go back to where you come from etc LOL made me laugh how sad some people are...

Ironically the following weekend I was in Brum when a car bomb failed to go off on a busy Saturday night, only the initial triggering device went off and not the main bomb...

I often go out with some Asian's and a chap who is Iranian for a few beers and a curry, they work at Jaguar in Coventry, LOL they would be considered Racist as some of the stuff they come outwith is laughable, most of it is in good humour though

The PC brigade has gone mad in the UK that why it's getting more and more divided IMO
Old 02 April 2004, 03:34 PM
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hey every1, Im ignorant to every1 now...

Ive a good mind to throw an insult at you but I dont take offence to it so why should I.

you really dont have a clue about our opinions, how the fek we got here I dont know.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:35 PM
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Olly; what u describe is intelligant social interaction- the minority who arent capable of this form of communication tend to be the ones who most need to pigeon hole groups etc... why do you think The Sun is so influencial.

Dealing face to face with someone is almost always going to different to what you believe/ have as an agenda, thats why many people have real probs differentiating btwn the two. ie " I have an Asylum seeker at work he is great bloke" vs " If I had my way I'd stop all immigration"
Old 02 April 2004, 03:42 PM
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wasn't invented nor propagated by racial motivated gangs or individuals with intent to cause harm against anyone who happens to be British. Unlike the term "paki".
You muppet, "Paki" is just an abbreviation of "Pakistani" same as "Brit" is of "British". It has subsequently been hijacked to become a generalisation and offensive term, the racists didn't dream it up, its always beent here.

Pom / Pomme on the other hand, like "Frog", "Kraut" etc has been dreamt up as a derogitary term.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:45 PM
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One question on all of these stats being flung around here for crime...

What percentage of each population is involved in criminal activities?

To say that there are more crimes committed by white males is pretty obvious, when you consider they are in the majority. I'm sure I have read somewhere that over 60% of women in jail in the UK are not white. Read into that what you will.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:47 PM
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A few more for you

AYE-RAB -- Anyone of Arabic descent. Popularized by the camp-singer Ray "The Streak" Stevens' song, "Ahab The Ayrab."

BEAN -- Insult implying that most Chicanos or those of Mexican origin cannot survive without beans being a part of their diet.

BEAN-EATER -- Please see "Bean".

BEANO -- Again, would you just see "Bean" already!

BLACKIE -- Diminutive term to any African or person with a dark skin color.

BOG-RAT -- Used to describe Irish country folk. The word comes from the peat-bogs of Ireland.

BOG-HOPPER -- Please see "Bog-Rat ".

BOY -- Used in the south, addressed to any black person younger than the white speaker. Sometimes used in ironic retaliation by blacks, as well.

BUCKWHEAT -- This word was used by blacks in the early 1900s as a greeting, later changed to a derogatory term due to the buffoonish Buckwheat character in the "Little Rascals" films.

CANUCK -- A Canadian. This word became in use after the 18th century cartoon character, Jonny Canuck.

CHICO -- Meaning "boy" in Spanish. A popular term in the 70s, but now seen to be of a diminutive nature.

CHINAMAN --Anyone of Chinese ancestry. Mostly used to lump all Asians together.

***** -- As above. It is not known, but often speculated, where this word came from.

CLOD-HOPPER -- Anyone who lives on a farm. Piles of cow dung were often called clod. In more recent (and vulgar) times, it has been replaced with ****-KICKER.

COLORED -- A southern term for blacks. Hardly used after the late 60s.

COON -- A black male. Starting in the 1880s, the Ku Klux Klan went on nightly raccoon hunts due to raccoons being nocturnal. Later they became the hunts and lynchings of blacks.

CRACKER -- Slang used by blacks to describe a person as "white as a cracker." Later deemed derogatory.

DAGO -- Originally used to classify any Italian, Spaniard or Portuguese, derived from the name Diego. Later used simply for Italians. Made popular by the 1950s joke, "Why does time fly in Italy? Because every time you turn around you see a day go."

DARKIE -- Patronizing term for any black person.

DINK -- In the U.S. it literally means a physically small person. In England and Canada, it's a synonym for someone who is small on a mental level. Later used during Vietnam by American soldiers to describe the natives as small, as well as stupid.

FROG -- Anyone of French ancestry. Shortened from "frog-leg eater."

****** -- A homosexual. Origin unknown.

*** -- Why are you so damn interested in what this means?

GOOK -- A person of Oriental descent. The word originated during World War II when dealing with many Japanese and having their language sounding like "gobbledy-gook" to Western ears.

GOY -- A Yiddish term for non-Jews, originally taken from the word GOYEM.

GOYEM --A Yiddish word meaning 'cattle.'

GREASER --Anyone of certain Hispanic origins, such as Mexicans or Puerto Ricans, supposedly due to a myth of Hispanics loving grease in their hair.

GREASE-BALL -- A ****ing Spic, like them guys above.

GREEK -- Anyone having **** intercourse, but most often used as a derogatory word in place of homosexual.

GRINGO -- Any white foreigner in Central or South America. Believed to be taken from pro-U.S. banners, "Green Go!" during the World Wars, but it was in fact used as far back as 70 years before the first World War.

GYPSY -- Not so much of an offensive word as it once was. The Gypsy people prefer to be called "Rom", a tribe of Egyptians who entered Europe in the 1200s.

HALF-BREED -- Anyone of a mixed racial background.

HEEB -- Anyone of Hebrew descent, but now used to describe someone as a liberal Jew.

HICK -- Anyone of a rural background, usually poor and especially white.

HILLBILLY -- Literally, anyone living in the hill country, also used to describe unwealthy white country folk.

HONKY -- Used by blacks to describe a white person with liberal leanings, shortened from "horn honking trouble maker."

INDIAN GIVER --Anyone who presents a gift, then reclaims it. Settlers claimed the Native Americans were always breaking promises and treaties.

INJUN -- A drunk Native American, used as if someone is slurring the word Indian.

JAP -- 1) Short for Japanese. 2) Acronym for Jewish American Princess.

JIGABOO -- A rural or southern black, referring to their dancing. Often mistakenly pronounced as "Chick-a-boo."

JUNGLE BUNNY -- A black person, first used as a synonym for a newly imported slave.

KYKE -- A Yiddish word meaning self-hating Jew. Now mostly used by racists for any type of Jewish person.

KRAUT -- A white German. Taken from the German's love of their cabbage dish, sauerkraut.

LIMEY -- A British sailor. Derived from Admirals giving their crew limes to prevent scurvy.

MICK -- A Scotsman or Irishman. Taken from the prefix Mc or Mac. The original word was Mack, but somehow made it's way to Mick.

****** -- Most common of racial slurs, applied to anyone of dark ancestry. Derived from the word Negro.

NIP -- A person of Japanese descent. The true name of Japan is Nippon, therefore Nip being a shortened version.

OREO -- Can be taken as a black person who wants to be a white person, or a white person who wants to be black. Or of a mixed background (white and black parents). Taken from the cookie that is dark on the outside and white on the inside.

P.R. -- Initials for Puerto Rican, often used to call Puerto Ricans, "Professional Robbers".

PAKI -- One of Indian heritage, mistakenly believing all Indians come from Pakistan.

POLACK -- 1) A person of Polish descent. 2) Anyone who has a low level of intelligence, derived from the myth that the Polish were so unintelligent that they just let Hitler walk right into their country.

REDNECK -- A white rural southerner which worked outdoors. To avoid sunburn they kept their shirts on, leaving the neck exposed to reddening by the sun.

REDSKIN -- A Native American. Using paint on their faces to describe their feelings, when settlers saw attacking Native Americans wearing red face paint, the name stuck.

RUSKY -- A person of Russian ancestry. Taken from the Russian word meaning "Russian", Ruskii.

****-KICKER -- See CLOD-HOPPER.

SAMBO -- A black person having buffoon-ish qualities. Taken from the story, "Little Black Sambo."

SHYSTER -- A Jewish professional who cons people. Taken from the Shakespearian character Shylock, in "The Merchant of Venice."

SPADE -- A black male. Comes from the term, "black as the Ace of Spades."

SAND-****** -- A person of Arabic descent.

SPIC -- Anyone of Hispanic origin. Originally used on police records to describe a suspect/victim who was a SPanish/Italian Caucasian (SP.I.C.). Now used as a short term for Hispanic.

SPOOK -- A black person. Used in the 1800s due to difficulty finding blacks in the dark (I just report this stuff, I don't make it up!).

TACO -- A person of Mexican nationality.

TOWEL-HEAD -- A person of any nationality who usually wears a turban or other head-dress.

UNCLE TOM -- A term used to describe blacks who aided whites or cooperates with whites.

WET BACK -- A derogatory term used for those of Mexican nationality who came over illegally via the Rio Grande.

WASP -- Acronym for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, commonly changed to fit most whites by making the "p" stand for Peoples or Person.

WHITE TRASH -- Poor rural whites. Used to signify that one is a dredge of the white race.

WHITEY -- Black slang for a white person, similar to (yet opposite of) BLACKIE.

WOP -- An Italian. Originally from the acronym With Out Passport, which was a sign on Ellis Island where you would get in line if you were an immigrant.

YID -- Anyone of Yiddish descent, but now used to describe a conservative Jew (opposite of HEEB).

YELLOW -- A person of Oriental ancestry.

ZEBRA-HEAD -- A person who has 'Jungle Fever.'
Old 02 April 2004, 03:48 PM
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everyone is entitled to their opinion ffs and no one is right or wrong, they are opinions, not facts

You can't say that on here with all the self-righteous ***** that use SN, eh Cosworth LOL
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I have not tried to justify the use of a racist term what so ever, what Ive tried to justify is that a term may not be racist just the person on the receiving end may enterpretate it as racist, as full well I will interpretate you RENAULT BOY as a complement and not an insult....

Now maybe I explained that rather simply for yu to understand.

If you cant let a person have thier own opinion on something maybe you should go find another thread to throw insults around

unfortunately I have to go home for the weekend, Id love to see what you have to reply to me though.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:50 PM
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Hmmm Chav isn't in that list Damn
Old 02 April 2004, 03:52 PM
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Final warning... Not only has it gone off topic but insults are still continuing. May I remind you all........
Thread title: Why is SN obsessed with asylum seekers?
Old 02 April 2004, 03:52 PM
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DINK = Double Income No Kids
Old 02 April 2004, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Final warning... Not only has it gone off topic but insults are still continuing. May I remind you all........
Thread title: Why is SN obsessed with asylum seekers?
wouldnt it be easier to ban cosworth? as he is the 1 throwing insults around as to spoil it for every1 else
Old 02 April 2004, 03:55 PM
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LOL.

He's good for a wind up, though.
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What percentage of each population is involved in criminal activities? Or what percentage gets convicted for criminal activities? I don't deny that many deserve to be there, but impartiality of police and courts to skin colour is unfortunately not a famed social phenomenon.

Other thing is, it is a fact that illegal immegrants are more involved in criminal activities than normal citizens - because they're illegal. D'oh. But apart from the obvious, it means they can't just go and sign up at the job agency or apply for a real job, as many may wish to do, as they have no ID. Hence they're limited to the dodgy stuff to put food in their mouths as they are not permitted to get a real job - despite the fact that there's plenty going which I think they'd be happy to do.

Sorry for the brief interruption, you can get back to your name-calling now.
Old 02 April 2004, 03:57 PM
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Ban that retarded muppet cosworth.
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
everyone is entitled to their opinion ffs and no one is right or wrong, they are opinions, not facts

You can't say that on here with all the self-righteous ***** that use SN, eh Cosworth LOL
Just because I disproved your BS about certain cars not needing to use Super Unleaded fuel to run, it doesn't make me "self-righteous.." ..whatever, anything you throw at me to make yourself feel less small.

Cya.
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Brendan- your comments are a 'positive oasis in the desert'
Old 02 April 2004, 04:01 PM
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You disproved nothing.

I was actually winding you up that evening after a few beers. I slapped your fat *** down.

You really do need to lighten up a little and relax, chill a bit, stop taking yourself so seriously.

People might like you then. I only said 'might', mind you. Don't go banking on it LOL
Old 02 April 2004, 04:06 PM
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Duck Pond

There are, for sure, more people per head of population of non-indigenous origin in British jails than the average. But then, to be fair, there's also over-representation in the prisons of the poor and the badly educated.

What it really comes down to is this: well-educated middle-class folks don't really commit crimes. They don't need to, as they can earn more elsewhere.

Poor (and poorly educated) people commit far more crimes per head of population, regardless of race.* I don't have the statistics to hand but have seen data to suggest that within the Afro-Caribbean community there's roughly the same criminal representation as in the white community when viewed by social grouping. It's just that there's a damn sight fewer ABC1s in the immigrant communities, though this is growing.


*And no, this is not to in any way justify poor people committing crimes. I'm just stating facts.
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****Edited to remove racist comments

I strongly suggest you read the email I have just sent you before posting again on Scoobynet****


lol hello poop eye



and cosworth is fine, coz his mama sure luvs my paki kebab and thinks it tastes like chicken



next lets go to the next chapter


see thats what i meant it wasnt worth taking th e cwe away, if ***** gonna happen its gonna happen anywhere

i dont mind my friends calling me a paki but i do mind others and if others do say it, i skull **** them good


and its fun




bravo and the cwe guys officially can call me a paki or a scot except poop eye and suresh

but shrek is allowed to but just a lil

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and cossie by the way

SHE LOVED ME BIG TIME ALL NIGHT LONG


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