View Poll Results: Who's the worst for wanting a race?
Citroen Saxo
52
26.26%
Vauxhall Corsa
34
17.17%
Mini
6
3.03%
BMW 3 Series
63
31.82%
Renault Clio
9
4.55%
Vauxhall Vectra
15
7.58%
Vauxhall Astra
6
3.03%
MG ZR
4
2.02%
Ford Fiesta
4
2.02%
Ford Escort
5
2.53%
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Poll : Worst car for "trying it on"
14 April 2004, 12:26 PM
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Craig H. I think you are wrong to under estimate the Mercedes AMG SL55. They do 0-100 in 10.2 Secs, with a 5.5 litle V8 and 493BHP, I don't think many Scoobys are to see the Mercs headlights. Just my observation as a Scooby driver.
14 April 2004, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NACRO
quote: "Should try my Golf PD150 I'm not missing out on performance"
Yes you are, that's the point, all that torque doesn't in any way make up for the fact that your car takes well over 20 seconds to 100mph and would be destroyed over any increment by even a standard lardy bugeye WRX. Now shut up and count your fuel economy/tax savings, you are exactly the type of person who this thread is aimed at.
Yes you are, that's the point, all that torque doesn't in any way make up for the fact that your car takes well over 20 seconds to 100mph and would be destroyed over any increment by even a standard lardy bugeye WRX. Now shut up and count your fuel economy/tax savings, you are exactly the type of person who this thread is aimed at.
14 April 2004, 03:38 PM
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I am chilled, I haven't owned a bugeye WRX only test driven one (and was dismayed at how blunted the performance felt). Your diesel wouldn't humble a WRX over 60 either, face facts you bought a relatively slow diesel car for economy reasons, performance is all relative and in terms of this thread (ie tossers who try to race Impreza turbos in low powered crap mobiles) even a remapped PD150 is a slow car driven by people who often try to bite off more than they can chew.
I get it almost every week with the same 330D driver who just can't face the fact his car is relatively slow. He should try and beat me in a "who has got the best range/fuel economy" competition because it's the only thing he'll ever win.
I get it almost every week with the same 330D driver who just can't face the fact his car is relatively slow. He should try and beat me in a "who has got the best range/fuel economy" competition because it's the only thing he'll ever win.
14 April 2004, 03:51 PM
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Volvo's and Octavia's for me - usually split into two types -
1 - fancy dayglow multicoloured ones with a serious sound-system judging by all the ariels and,
2 - totally debadged ones with a JVC camcorder on a mount to impress all his mates at the Christmas party with his high speed runs.
1 - fancy dayglow multicoloured ones with a serious sound-system judging by all the ariels and,
2 - totally debadged ones with a JVC camcorder on a mount to impress all his mates at the Christmas party with his high speed runs.
14 April 2004, 05:40 PM
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CLK Mercs should be on there IMO - the 230 K K K Kompressors' - when will they ever learn?
The boy racers just love to see the scooby go go go, but I'm not wasting my petrol on a 1.4VTR or a clio with go faster foglights zzzzzzzz
The boy racers just love to see the scooby go go go, but I'm not wasting my petrol on a 1.4VTR or a clio with go faster foglights zzzzzzzz
14 April 2004, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NACRO
Your diesel wouldn't humble a WRX over 60 either
Current WRX = 9.6secs
Golf PD130 = 8.8secs
......and thats just a PD130, There's you, babbling on about how crap and slow a chipped/mapped PD150 would be with 190bhp (admitted through the front wheels) and 290lbft of torque (even more torque than you) Only the 4wd system gets the WRX a decent 0-60 time, once rolling a standard WRX wouldn't stand a chance.
......and after all that, the diesel would still return an average well over 40mpg.
......and as for a BMW 330d being crap, now you're just being stupid.
Wake up and smell the diesel. Not all of them are slow, smoke producing tax breaks.
14 April 2004, 06:41 PM
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cough....cough ...cough... ill....ill.. just take your word for it if you dont mind 
when they make one that handles like scooby ..my name will be 1st on the list 
when they make one that handles like scooby ..my name will be 1st on the list
14 April 2004, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidLewis
How about Autocar's own test figures for 50-70 times.
Current WRX = 9.6secs
Golf PD130 = 8.8secs
once rolling a standard WRX wouldn't stand a chance.
Current WRX = 9.6secs
Golf PD130 = 8.8secs
once rolling a standard WRX wouldn't stand a chance.
Can anyone get proper set of performance figures posted up for these two cars then ????
Just ONE single figure (50-70, probably held in a high gear, which is pointless) does not tell anything at all, but if the Golf is THAT GOOD all round, I'd like to know about it.
14 April 2004, 07:08 PM
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The figure given is for 50-70 in top gear I'd imagine. Can't remember the last time I was in fifth between those speeds, more like 3rd I'd have thought. If you think your Golf will out accelerate even the slowest Turbo'd Impreza then you are a complete moron.
Quoting figures out of context is just stupid.
Thought I'd add, I didn't say a 330D is crap at all, in fact it's a great car. It's also a lot slower than even a bugeye WRX.
Quoting figures out of context is just stupid.
Thought I'd add, I didn't say a 330D is crap at all, in fact it's a great car. It's also a lot slower than even a bugeye WRX.
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14 April 2004, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NACRO
The figure given is for 50-70 in top gear I'd imagine. Can't remember the last time I was in fifth between those speeds, more like 3rd I'd have thought. If you think your Golf will out accelerate even the slowest Turbo'd Impreza then you are a complete moron.
Quoting figures out of context is just stupid.
Quoting figures out of context is just stupid.
Just waiting now for someone to post to say they've driven a giant wet bar of soap and it 'handled' as well as a Scoob .... LOL
14 April 2004, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TREV
If my scoob ever takes over 9 and a half seconds from 50-70, I'll go and buy a diesel with pleasure.
14 April 2004, 07:55 PM
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Evo's,they never learn.I thought they would have given up by now 
Oh and impreza sports with turbo bonnets
Oh and impreza sports with turbo bonnets
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14 April 2004, 09:04 PM
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the thing is thou the 330d is not exactly slow in 3rd between 50-70 or for that matter 4th or 5th or 6th. I'll be adding a little tuningbox next week which takes it to 245bhp and 380lbft at around 1900rpm but then it revs quite happily round to the red line.
It isn't as quick as a tuned scooby, like Nacros, but I think it'll give a few other cars a bit of a surprise...
Steve
It isn't as quick as a tuned scooby, like Nacros, but I think it'll give a few other cars a bit of a surprise...
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14 April 2004, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
cough....cough ...cough... ill....ill.. just take your word for it if you dont mind when they make one that handles like scooby ..my name will be 1st on the list
when they make one that handles like scooby ..my name will be 1st on the list
15 April 2004, 04:53 PM
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Current WRX = 9.6secs
According to Prodrive's figures, it is actually 10.0 seconds.
... but anyone who tries overtaking even a milk float in 5th should be driving a diesel!
The turbo only wakes up at 65MPH!
Third is a more appropriate gear, and for the standard car it takes 3.5s. (or 2.9 with PPP). Don't compare apples and oranges.
According to Prodrive's figures, it is actually 10.0 seconds.
... but anyone who tries overtaking even a milk float in 5th should be driving a diesel!
The turbo only wakes up at 65MPH!
Third is a more appropriate gear, and for the standard car it takes 3.5s. (or 2.9 with PPP). Don't compare apples and oranges.
15 April 2004, 09:00 PM
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depending on gearing, my vf29 starts to push at 2,500rpm = 50mph in 5th, 65mph is 3,250 in 5th andis really blowing. Mind due my 5th is like a uk 4th .
Never tried a 50-70 in 5th but I reckon 4 to 5 seconds
.Never tried a 50-70 in 5th but I reckon 4 to 5 seconds
15 April 2004, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
that nos diesel golf on 5th gear seemed to be okay and gave that nsx a run for its money
16 April 2004, 08:50 AM
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I Met a 306 having ago yesterday, gave it a short blip then let it drive off..... Then not 2hours later saw it on the cover of one of 'those' magazines.
3L V6, LOL, what a waste of money I didn't even think it was a GTI-6!
Seriously though, scoobs are the worst for trying it on, almost every turbo has a play wih you!
Most of them arn't maniacs trying to write you off either, which makes for god fun.
3L V6, LOL, what a waste of money I didn't even think it was a GTI-6!
Seriously though, scoobs are the worst for trying it on, almost every turbo has a play wih you!
Most of them arn't maniacs trying to write you off either, which makes for god fun.
16 April 2004, 09:05 AM
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looking like the beamer drivers are going to have the honour of winning this - although the saxo / corsa brigade aren't too far behind...
glad I'm not the only one who voted for mini's...
glad I'm not the only one who voted for mini's...
16 April 2004, 09:30 AM
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Minis! I met one of the new ones (a yellow one) on a roundabout / slip road area once, the **** kept pulling out in front of me every time I tried to overtake, with a number plate which looked like SPXX EDY (I'm sure you can guess the numbers). Trouble is, he was far from speedy, it wasn't even a cooper.
16 April 2004, 09:56 AM
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Until I had the graphics put on the car I found it's the nobhed BMW driver that wants to race you. Nearly everyday there's always a 320 or 318 thinks he's going to smoke you and normally does....put out filthy blue smoke of a nackered engine trying to beat you.
I've found it's best to drive along side them and when their cars at its max then politely wave goodbye letting them see what the car really has to give
Now virtually nobody wants to play anymore so have to be content with cruising at a steady --- on usual private runway the 127
I've found it's best to drive along side them and when their cars at its max then politely wave goodbye letting them see what the car really has to give
Now virtually nobody wants to play anymore so have to be content with cruising at a steady --- on usual private runway the 127
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16 April 2004, 10:47 AM
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The figure given is for 50-70 in top gear I'd imagine. Can't remember the last time I was in fifth between those speeds
530d is limited to 155mph.
535d is also ltd to 155, has 280ish hp and 400+lb ft?
16 April 2004, 11:06 AM
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??
530d has a top speed of 152, has 218 BHP and weighs ... 1670kg.
I'd like to think that a car with 225 BHP and 1380kg would feel quicker, even with 4WD losses. Apples and oranges again, a diesel BMW is not built for the same purpose as a WRX.
530d has a top speed of 152, has 218 BHP and weighs ... 1670kg.
I'd like to think that a car with 225 BHP and 1380kg would feel quicker, even with 4WD losses. Apples and oranges again, a diesel BMW is not built for the same purpose as a WRX.