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Old 14 April 2004, 01:29 PM
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Id take any price advice here with a pinch of salt Bubba; if Scoobynetters are to be believed I will soon be able to replace my worthless WRX wagon with a MY00 for about £3,000. The value of cars like this is bound to firm-up as good low mileage examples become rare. This does sound a little dear but its worth what someone will pay for it.

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Old 14 April 2004, 01:44 PM
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If I can get a goody for about 10-11 grand I'll be happy.
Old 14 April 2004, 02:00 PM
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Another example is my W reg MY00 that I bought privately last summer for £11,750 silver, full two tone leather done via the dealer when new along with full colour coding etc, new Prodrive 17s and was on 24k with remainder of original warranty.

I agree that 14k seems too much no matter what the spec might be. More around the 12k from a dealer sems fair but again it's worth whatever someone's prepared to pay for it. Leather is a very rare option on the classics and it was a huge selling point for me when I saw it in the flesh. Shouldn't neccessarily put a huge premium on the car but will def make it more saleable and sought after imho.

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Old 14 April 2004, 02:12 PM
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Bubba po,

I have my MY03 WRX up at the moment for £15500 and that's only a year old with 9k on the clock.

Say no more.
Old 14 April 2004, 02:57 PM
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For £14k you can buy yourself a nice Type R My name sake will tell you its a pile of sh1te though
Old 14 April 2004, 03:22 PM
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Your name sake (ZippyEFC) i think not,do not compare me to you,there will only ever be one Zippy,you my son may try to hang onto my coat tails copying my name but there will only ever be one.Remember that.

I'm one of the best at winding people up on here with my 'to the point' comments.Most of it is done in good humour but the problem is Classic owners have their heads buried in the sand or should i say a#se.

My point is that £14k for what is an old car (3 models backdated) is a joke.

The Bugeye agreed was heavier, but also didnt need strut braces front and rear to stop it twisting into various shapes when pushing on and this more than makes up for its weight disadvantage.

Say my name B#TCHES

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Old 14 April 2004, 03:53 PM
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Zippy- why don't you go and join a bugeye thread somewhere?
Did you not read the thread title?
I don't think the topic starter is at all interested in Bugeyes- btw thay have that name for a reason
Old 14 April 2004, 03:56 PM
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You couldn't wind up a clock and everybody knows i'm the best kind of zippy there is. You get back to bumming Bungle and George while i sort Jane out
Old 14 April 2004, 04:24 PM
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LOL

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Old 14 April 2004, 04:45 PM
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Bubba, you have PM
Old 14 April 2004, 04:51 PM
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LOL hark at the classic boys clinging onto there 6+ year old buckets proclaiming that they drive a piece of motoring history - A Classic Shaped Subaru! Well lets face it fellas your insurance bill costs more than your car is worth! A bugeye in its standard form is shall we say an acquired taste - but lets face it when you also see a bog standard UK 'classic' turbo - Boooooooy is it ugly and totally non-descript! How many ppl drive scoobs in standard forms???

What really makes me p1$$ are the ppl like 'Funky Geddon' and Zippy-Wannabe above who call cars that look like this :

http://www.btinternet.com/~nickadams...4/DSC01031.JPG

or this :

http://www.btinternet.com/~nickadams/Russ/scoob1.jpg

A fugly BUGEYE!!! They arent head-turners, no road prescence at all , look like frogs and I wouldnt be seen dead in one..... Yeah right!! PMSL Keep dreaming!.......

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Old 14 April 2004, 05:45 PM
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Old 14 April 2004, 05:56 PM
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I paid £12000 last year for a forecourt low mileage 99v classic shaped turbo. A the time a slightly dear but fair price to pay for one in such good nick with such subtle and tasteful mods (eibachs, magnex exhaust etc).
On Autotrader in my neck of the woods there are still private sale ones - same age and spec as mine going for £12000 - 12500...Nice to suffer zero depreciation in 11 months...


With this in mind 14k is not very dear - although there will be bargains out there if you want to travel.

Personally I'd throw a couple of extra grand in and get a P1 - was one in the trader last week for ~16k - would have done that but my budget at the time wouldnt stretch to it...

Take a look at the 14k one if its mint with FSH etc - you'll know when you see it...

P
Old 14 April 2004, 06:07 PM
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Think this thread is going off on a tangent again....
The guy just wanted to know how much for a decent classic and is £14K too much??
Not bug-eye or blob-eye... a classic!! regardless to speed, weight... blah-blah.

Given it is loaded with PPP, leather, suspension etc... £14K is probably only a little too high if it is as good as it’s advertised at, given a P1 is about £18K. Yes i here you all say - but you can’t compare it to a P1 - no you cant, but it is 4 possibly 5 grand cheaper (with a bit of haggling). And if it stays in good nic, and looked after there wont be huge depreciation either.

Still best to get clued up with price comparasions first though.
Old 14 April 2004, 07:27 PM
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Ok i paid £12995 for a MY00 but registered Feb 2001,no leather or aircon.Totally standard 19,000 miles full service history with one previous lady owner also had 12months extra warranty.

Car was completely unmarked and bought from Well lane August 2003

Hope this helps
Old 14 April 2004, 07:45 PM
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Mint condition, low mileage MY00's (below 30,000), with air con & leather are getting harder and harder to find.
I recently sold my car http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=296902 for slightly below the asking price.
Although it was UK spec it did originate from Australia and I think people were scared off by this. If it were a true UK car I reckon I could have easily got £12k for it.
If you see a UK car in this condition I would jump at the chance as like I said before, they are getting rarer and rarer to find.
Old 14 April 2004, 08:01 PM
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Mint classics seem to be holding values quite well. When you actually go seriously looking for one you realise how few good ones there really are about.

I'd buy a new or newer one tommorow, but for the big depriciation that I grudge suffering.

Minter classics are now down at prices where they will not depreciate massively from now on, all the later shape cars still seem to be falling hard in value ????

14k has got to be absolute top end for a classic shape 4 door car but even if you sold it in one year for just 8k-10k, thats only the same as what any new one will loose in the same time.
Old 14 April 2004, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ru$$Rip
LOL hark at the classic boys clinging onto there 6+ year old buckets proclaiming that they drive a piece of motoring history - A Classic Shaped Subaru! Well lets face it fellas your insurance bill costs more than your car is worth! A bugeye in its standard form is shall we say an acquired taste - but lets face it when you also see a bog standard UK 'classic' turbo - Boooooooy is it ugly and totally non-descript! How many ppl drive scoobs in standard forms???

What really makes me p1$$ are the ppl like 'Funky Geddon' and Zippy-Wannabe above who call cars that look like this :

http://www.btinternet.com/~nickadams...4/DSC01031.JPG

or this :

http://www.btinternet.com/~nickadams/Russ/scoob1.jpg

A fugly BUGEYE!!! They arent head-turners, no road prescence at all , look like frogs and I wouldnt be seen dead in one..... Yeah right!! PMSL Keep dreaming!.......
Zippy wannabe lol I dont recall slagging off any cars on this thread maybe you should read it again but this time use your good eye
Old 14 April 2004, 10:48 PM
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Zippy... after poncing about all day in the nude with one hand out of sight doing God Knows What, it's time for you to put on your Pyjamas and go to bed.

The classic is not three models backdated, it is only two. Everyone would prefer to forget the bugeye because it's as ugly as Satan's pods.

Rod, Jane and Freddy know a song about it.

We made a damn fine car, so in our foot we must now shoot,

It needs a big, fat **** and exophthalmic eyes to boot,

We know that people love our speed

We'll add 200 kilos to fulfil their need

Everyone spewed, and virtually no-one bought

We dropped a bollock (dropped a bollock)...What now?

We'll do a quick fix cos we're ****ting bricks, and how,

Fire the designer while we bab our kegs,

In case we killed the goose with the golden eggs

Everyone knows, the Bugeye's a load of crap

So give me a classic......
Old 14 April 2004, 11:03 PM
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A car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.
Is a C-Reg Sierra Cosworth worth £12k - no? - so how come one sold on ebay for more than that a few weeks ago?
because it only had about 20k genuine miles on the clock and someone wanted a car that isn't made anymore in a condition that is increasingly hard to find.
they wanted it so much they were willing to pay well above what the car is "worth" in real terms.

As for the scooby - I'd say £14k is maybe on the high side but if it were from a dealer I wouldnt say it was unrealistic.
Old 14 April 2004, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey off of Rainbow
Zippy... after poncing about all day in the nude with one hand out of sight doing God Knows What, it's time for you to put on your Pyjamas and go to bed.

The classic is not three models backdated, it is only two. Everyone would prefer to forget the bugeye because it's as ugly as Satan's pods.

Rod, Jane and Freddy know a song about it.

We made a damn fine car, so in our foot we must now shoot,

It needs a big, fat **** and exophthalmic eyes to boot,

We know that people love our speed

We'll add 200 kilos to fulfil their need

Everyone spewed, and virtually no-one bought

We dropped a bollock (dropped a bollock)...What now?

We'll do a quick fix cos we're ****ting bricks, and how,

Fire the designer while we bab our kegs,

In case we killed the goose with the golden eggs

Everyone knows, the Bugeye's a load of crap

So give me a classic......
PMSL
Old 15 April 2004, 08:11 AM
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Old 15 April 2004, 08:12 AM
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I noticed yesterday that Welshes the Subaru dealer in Cambridge had a W reg Classic saloon in silver....very good condition......sports back box, or could have been PPP'd?.....29,000 mls....and priced at £11995.
Might have been sold as the cars details and price had been taken off the window and placed on the floor well.
Old 15 April 2004, 08:21 AM
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it also depends where in the country you are,Skoda RSs sell for upto 2k more in the SE,i would have thought Scoobs are the same

try North East dealers,they tend to be cheaper,and Scotland
Old 15 April 2004, 11:20 AM
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I can't hold back anymore.

Comparing a bugeye to a classic is shear stupidity, when the bugeye was released it was a laughing stock in the motoring world and still is today. Im registered to 6 car forum sites and not one person apart from this site rates the bugeye impreza.

IMO its a very poor example of a Subaru impreza, every man, woman, child and dog with a decent car will show the bugeye its heals. The majority of todays hot hatches will give the bugeye a good bashing. It never used to be like that with the classic did it? You had to have something special to wipe the floor with a classic impreza. 0-100 in 17+ secs.....ha ha!!

Im on about like for like....uk turbo 208/215 classic vs bugeye. Bring the Sti into it and then compare the Sti with the Sti classic.

Classic wins everytime. The bugeye is a morbedly obese frog!!

Its alright for you lot to rip into the classics so theres no harm in me ripping into the bugeyes!!
Like for like, give as good as you get!!
Old 15 April 2004, 11:43 AM
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I drive a Classic and for a few Ks more I could have bought a bug eye but I prefer the Classic shape car. I wouldn't even consider arguing over the build quality of a classic against a bug eye becuase if the bug eyes have build quality like the classics then they are just as crap. My car isn't quite 3 years old and I've owned a 1990 Golf Mk2 16v with a stronger looking interior and the golf had done 140K.

The bug eye is bound to be heavier as most cars evolve in versions the car manufacturing regulations will force cars to get heavier as they have to include more things like air-bags and crumple zones etc...

Thought the engine and transmission were all but identicle apart from a few minor changes. Again worrying about transmission on a four year old car is laughable, mines making odd noises now and again and its only done 47K. At a recent service I was shocked to see how many gearboxes from all versions of Scoob were in bits around the service area with teeth missing.

Good cars they are be it Classic, Bug/Blob eye, built by germans they aint!!

I remember when the blob eye came out omst people were saying that they had got used to the bug eye and it started to appeal. Now the blob has come out and its an improvement if ony slight people are going to want that with the bug being overlooked. If anything the smart money may go on the bug eye as it will do just the same as the others but may be a lower price.

pick the sh$t out of that.

And another thing nothing could touch the classic in its time becuase nowt else had the power, nowadays with clios, 206, Megane etc all having close to or over 200bhp the playing field is somewhat more level.

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Old 15 April 2004, 12:10 PM
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getting the thread back on track, I would say 14k is too dear, I sold my MINT 00MY 4dr turbo(AC, no leather) with 17,000 miles for £12250 (paid £15,250 for it brand new 2.5 yrs earlier,from belgium). 3 months later, july 03 I bought a real clean 00MY 5 dr turbo (AC, no leather) with 29000 miles for £9500, it now has 39,000 on it and I would say is still worth what I paid, bargains and genuine cars are out there if you are prepared to look, it's still a buyer's market with this car. BTW, the bug eye is pig ugly and I would only consider swapping my car for a '03, but I'm busy saving for an M3
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Glen,

Seen my post in bits for sale? Been trying to ring you.

MB
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I drove classic and bugeye one after the other - no comparison, different cars, performance and build quality respectivlely.

Buppa, in answer to your original question, if the car in question is an absolute minter, with no imperfections, full history, extended warranty etc then £13.5K from a dealer would be tops (IMHO), but this type of car is becoming rare now, genuine cars with no track time, FSSH, receipts and genuine LOW mileage are hard to find, colour makes a difference also.
My MY00 has 18K genuine, never been on the track and is completely dent free, std apart from WRSport BB and some 17" wheels + Toyos, extended warranty, silver, it is mint and as such would like to think I would get 12.5 - 13K if I was to sell today. Good classics will maintain there value just like the Escort cossie or similar. Sure it's not the best made car, and yes the Jap RA's etc are faster but I'll not be changing mine until I can stretch to a STi 8 PPP.
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