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Old 22 April 2004, 04:36 PM
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Nacro hes also a vicious cheating t**t and an arrogant to$$er.I know ive met the bloke
Old 22 April 2004, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sith
PMSL @Spoon. Tea on monitor moment.

I have several black friends, we all get on really well. One of them, actually finds it offensive if you don't see his colour, if you know what I mean. It's his identity and shows his heritage.
That's certainly been my experience. Black people a very proud of their heritage. For evidence check out the fab classic song The Crown by Gary Byrd & The G.B. Experience featuring Stevie Wonder.

Lyrics Here

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Old 22 April 2004, 04:41 PM
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Remember this is about one black person not the entire race.I also have many black friends and they are fantastic guys.Just because someone criticises one black person dont automatically assume it goes for the entire race,thats just dumb
Old 22 April 2004, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-tc
Nacro hes also a vicious cheating t**t and an arrogant to$$er.I know ive met the bloke
At the Notting Hill festival?
Old 22 April 2004, 04:46 PM
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At the Notting Hill festival?
Whats that? i try never to go into London
Old 22 April 2004, 05:47 PM
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I've only just seen this (I know, joins the party as it's winding down) and can only say that it's a question of context. If this was said as a joke it might be dubious but potentially not a racist comment, but said in the way it was was epecially offensive, almost as if "yeah, he's useless, but hey, he's a ******, and we all know that they're bloody useless, so what else can you expect?"

Calling someone a ****** is especially offensive as

(a) it's picking on someone specifically because of their colour/race, when that has no relevance

(b) it's known by any white person that the use of this towards a black person is the one word most likely to give offence. For someone to say this, therefore, shows a complete insensitivity, the more so if they're a professional media person.

Ron got what he deserved - a public shaming and a good kick in the wallet.
Old 22 April 2004, 05:53 PM
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but thats the same with any characteristic...ie'

Calling someone fat is especially offensive as

(a) it's picking on someone specifically because of their size/weight, when that has no relevance

(b) it's known by any slim person that the use of this towards a fat person is the one word most likely to give offence. For someone to say this, therefore, shows a complete insensitivity, the more so if they're a professional media person.
Old 22 April 2004, 05:56 PM
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Tiggs

Yeh, but many fat people ARE lazy (hence the girth, no?) and it's a self-induced rather than genetically-determined condition.

(opens the floodgates for all the 20+ stone SNers to tell tales of woe about their medical problems which involve them needing to mainline pork pies and lager)
Old 22 April 2004, 06:11 PM
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LOL @ the moose.
Old 22 April 2004, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Do you think that racism is an instinctive human reaction, or do you believe all negative attitudes have had to be learnt?
I had a dog many years ago, and it always used to attack other black dogs. It was never taught to do that, it just did it. When out for a walk, as you passed another dog, say a brown one, they would sniff each other as they passed, might get the odd growl, but that was it. Pass a black dog, and it was straight in for the fight.
Well odd.
Old 22 April 2004, 06:53 PM
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Moose - people have had this conversation on Scoobynet many times before, it's not a new one.

I'm overweight 'cos I eat too much and drink too much and that's indeed my choice - but I'll play anyone on this BBS at Squash for a tenner, I'm an ex county player and have been playing for over 20 years - don't assume all fat people are lazy.

It's still offensive if you call me fat and specifically mean it to be insulting. It's still using the visual appearence of a person to try to verbally degrade them so you are JUST as phobic about fatties as a racist is about blacks - but you'll never admit it as you can't and probably won't see the connection.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:01 PM
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i don't really comprehend this argument . of course calling someone a fat f*** is offensive. it's no better than other terms of abuse. the only difference is there isn't a long tradition of enslaving or exterminating fat people.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:05 PM
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Would it help if I said that

(a) I'm 15st in weight
(b) I completely agree with what you say re insults - but humour isn't banned on this BBS, is it?
(c) You play squash well, I run and cycle. But many people don't, and just complain about "their genes" making them fat. Bollocks - pies and ale do that, and a lack of exercise.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Buzz

Would it help if I said that

(a) I'm 15st in weight
(b) I completely agree with what you say re insults - but humour isn't banned on this BBS, is it?
(c) You play squash well, I run and cycle. But many people don't, and just complain about "their genes" making them fat. Bollocks - pies and ale do that, and a lack of exercise.

No, I actually am the first to laugh at myself - anyone on here who knows me will tell you I'm like that. The problem is that some people DON'T take it as a casual poke and laugh it off, and they genuinely are insulted. Some people will have read your posts and been highly offended (but not me ).

Has anyone actually asked Marcell if he IS offended? Or would he just counter with "tell the fat old c**t to f**k off" with a big cheesy grin on his face?? I wonder

I'm sure the crowd scream worse at him at every Arsenal match.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:22 PM
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Scoop- scoobynet racist nails colours to mast

At least we know who some of the scum is on here now, why not go and slit your wrists you c*nt? Do us all a favour.
LOL at Hypocrite NACRO, you don't mind using offensive terms yourself and you seem to express your own bigoted views on here quite frequently, as long as it doesn’t affect you. Practice what you preach old son ….
Old 22 April 2004, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ProperCharlie
i don't really comprehend this argument . of course calling someone a fat f*** is offensive. it's no better than other terms of abuse. the only difference is there isn't a long tradition of enslaving or exterminating fat people.
Go and read your African history.

Slavery and genocide were rampant long before the indigenous population ever set eyes on a European, (as it was worldwide).

If you really must make dramatic statements, tell both sides of the story.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:33 PM
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*** face said quote: "you seem to express your own bigoted views on here quite frequently, as long as it doesn’t affect you"

Where? name the occasion and quote it you lying c*nt.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:38 PM
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So you have never used Gay on here to offend someone ?
Old 22 April 2004, 07:41 PM
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Has anybody mentioned this Marcel Desailly may well be a pikey?
Old 22 April 2004, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NACRO
Where? name the occasion and quote it you lying c*nt.
Has it occured to you that many will be offended by your liberal use of the C word (albeit with asterisks)?

Some might even go as far as to say it's sexist. Or is sexism OK, just not racism?
Old 22 April 2004, 07:44 PM
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This not offence then NACRO, your words ?? need I go on there are countless others ??

Crawley is full of thieving scum who pop down from the many chavster estates surrounding the sh1thole
Old 22 April 2004, 07:44 PM
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Tarantino uses the word many times in his films,never offends anyone, (possibly),but it is obvioulsy offensive when used as Atkinson used it.But he has apologised,resigned and been sacked form his only other means of income,his newspaper column,so end of story
Old 22 April 2004, 07:46 PM
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*** face said quote: "you seem to express your own bigoted views on here quite frequently, as long as it doesn’t affect you"

Where? name the occasion and quote it you lying c*nt.


Another Quote NACRO from your good self...

I told him in my best French what I thought of him (Putain is a good French insult)

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Old 22 April 2004, 07:48 PM
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NACRO I'd shut it if I were you as your making more of an idiot out yourself than you usually do.....

I'm not whiter than white excuse the pun but your such a hypocrite it's untrue
Old 22 April 2004, 07:53 PM
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None of that is racist you c*nt- which is what you implied. Offensive terms perhaps, racist, illegal bigoted bullsh1t no. It's you who is on a loser you dumb pr1ck.

I don't think the word c*nt is sexist either.
Old 22 April 2004, 07:58 PM
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None of that is racist you c*nt- which is what you implied
Where did I say you were Racist ???

I know you are not well educated but can you quote where I said that...???

So it's ok to offend someone as long as it's not Racist LOL
Old 22 April 2004, 07:58 PM
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was digging the garden earlier with a SPADE sorry or should i say a digging instrument, get real guys who gives a F**K anyway we are called poms by the aussies does that mean we are victims of racism??
Old 22 April 2004, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NACRO
I don't think the word c*nt is sexist either.
So you're saying that because you don't think it is sexist, then it isn't to anyone else?

So by that logic, if I was to consider the N word as non-racist, it would be OK for me to use it then?

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Old 22 April 2004, 08:04 PM
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NACRO Pikey is deemed a racist term and yet you chose to use that without any problem...
Old 22 April 2004, 08:07 PM
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hes probably p1ssed off coz hes blown his Giro already.Get a job and a life Nacro u moron


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