cat poisoning - what sicko does this
30 April 2004, 03:36 PM
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Do you alienate all these animals? No you dont because its far too easy to pick on an animal that someone has as a pet
See http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showpost....6&postcount=68 so I don't have to type it all again!
Bird **** happens to be one of the most dangerous in terms of potential diseases carried so anyone who goes on about cat **** beign a threat to health better completely cover their garden with a roof incase a bird drops a **** from high above
Unfortunately, cats are classed as wild animals and therefore the owner has no responsibility for their control
So ajm, should all dog owners be forced to keep dogs indoors?
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He went apesh!t so promptly let him off again
30 April 2004, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
This isn't strictly true, although the law is contradictory and vague on this point and doesn't help the issue either way. Cat owners claim that cats are wild animals to excuse their lack of control over the animal. Unfortunately for them if cats were truly wild then they would be classed as feral and can legally be shot. They have to choose - either to accept responsibility for them as a domestic pet, or shun all responsibility and the animal becomes feral. The law, as always, is a fuzzy mush somewhere in the middle.
30 April 2004, 05:12 PM
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Are you sure? I'm not aware of it being illegal to shoot cats in a similar way to it not being illegal to shoot dogs that are sheep worrying, for example.
In reality we see the following:-
a) It is supposedly illegal to kill a cat because it someone elses property
b) They can roam where they like and the owner takes no responsibility because they are "wild"
These two facts are contradictory.
30 April 2004, 05:23 PM
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Its called society 
Cats are a common pet because society in this country deems it acceptable to have them as pets.
So lets say owners were made legally accountable. How would you deal with your neighbours cat sh!tting on your lawn? Call the police? Take them to the small claims court? How you going to prove its a particular cat in the neighbourhood that has shat on your garden? Get a forensic test done? Give us a break, there is no way of enforcing accountability for cat ownership which is why its acceptable in society to have it the way it is!
Cats are a common pet because society in this country deems it acceptable to have them as pets.So lets say owners were made legally accountable. How would you deal with your neighbours cat sh!tting on your lawn? Call the police? Take them to the small claims court? How you going to prove its a particular cat in the neighbourhood that has shat on your garden? Get a forensic test done? Give us a break, there is no way of enforcing accountability for cat ownership which is why its acceptable in society to have it the way it is!
30 April 2004, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Its called society Cats are a common pet because society in this country deems it acceptable to have them as pets.
So lets say owners were made legally accountable. How would you deal with your neighbours cat sh!tting on your lawn? Call the police? Take them to the small claims court? How you going to prove its a particular cat in the neighbourhood that has shat on your garden? Get a forensic test done? Give us a break, there is no way of enforcing accountability for cat ownership which is why its acceptable in society to have it the way it is!
Cats are a common pet because society in this country deems it acceptable to have them as pets.So lets say owners were made legally accountable. How would you deal with your neighbours cat sh!tting on your lawn? Call the police? Take them to the small claims court? How you going to prove its a particular cat in the neighbourhood that has shat on your garden? Get a forensic test done? Give us a break, there is no way of enforcing accountability for cat ownership which is why its acceptable in society to have it the way it is!
I really find it surprising how people find the concept of legally treating cats the same as any other domestic pets so difficult to understand. If it really is deemed acceptable for people to own something that causes other people material loss then it is the ONLY example where that is the case, and it goes against everything the law stands for.
Acceptable for you maybe, but then you have the benefits that come with owning a cat. The situation is not acceptable to me.
30 April 2004, 06:06 PM
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ajm,
All this tosh you keep spouting is a complete waste of time. It is apparent to anyone that for whatever reason you just hate cats plain and simple (and I can't see how anyone could have that much dislike for an animal unless IMHO they are in some way psychologically disturbed) - just admit it and leave it that.
tiggers.
All this tosh you keep spouting is a complete waste of time. It is apparent to anyone that for whatever reason you just hate cats plain and simple (and I can't see how anyone could have that much dislike for an animal unless IMHO they are in some way psychologically disturbed) - just admit it and leave it that.
tiggers.
30 April 2004, 06:39 PM
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Cat corner 
ajm, you seem to choose what comments you reply to
Cats are not owned, imo no one owns any animal. You though are owned by cats
Toxiplasmosis is carried by loads of animals anol.
Get over hating cats ajm, your deffo in the minority as cats are the UK's fav pets, i.e. they rule
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ajm, you seem to choose what comments you reply to
Cats are not owned, imo no one owns any animal. You though are owned by cats
Toxiplasmosis is carried by loads of animals anol.
Get over hating cats ajm, your deffo in the minority as cats are the UK's fav pets, i.e. they rule
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30 April 2004, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
I would do the same as I would if I found someone's dog damaging my property. I would approach the owner (if I can find them) informally first. If that fails then I would gather some evidence and report the matter.
I really find it surprising how people find the concept of legally treating cats the same as any other domestic pets so difficult to understand. If it really is deemed acceptable for people to own something that causes other people material loss then it is the ONLY example where that is the case, and it goes against everything the law stands for.
Acceptable for you maybe, but then you have the benefits that come with owning a cat. The situation is not acceptable to me.
I really find it surprising how people find the concept of legally treating cats the same as any other domestic pets so difficult to understand. If it really is deemed acceptable for people to own something that causes other people material loss then it is the ONLY example where that is the case, and it goes against everything the law stands for.
Acceptable for you maybe, but then you have the benefits that come with owning a cat. The situation is not acceptable to me.
30 April 2004, 07:47 PM
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Ok Jye... I'll reply to one of yours....
Indeed.... AFTER they have been infected by oocysts. The parasite needs the intestines of cats to complete the lifecycle. No cats, no toxoplasma gondii oocysts and no parasite. Come on, you know better than to challenge my facts! Read!
Go on then tiggers, since I have humoured Jye, and its Friday, I shall retort ...
Your remarks portray those of a man who, in the face of well thought out and indisputable facts, resorts to transparent diversionary tactics.... and there was me thinking NACRO had gone on holiday!
Originally Posted by Jye
Toxiplasmosis is carried by loads of animals anol.
Originally Posted by tiggers
All this tosh you keep spouting is a complete waste of time. It is apparent to anyone that for whatever reason you just hate cats plain and simple (and I can't see how anyone could have that much dislike for an animal unless IMHO they are in some way psychologically disturbed) - just admit it and leave it that.
...Your remarks portray those of a man who, in the face of well thought out and indisputable facts, resorts to transparent diversionary tactics.... and there was me thinking NACRO had gone on holiday!
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30 April 2004, 09:00 PM
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paaa, damn you and your google links ajm but , as toxiplasmosis occurs in wild cats as well, I feel that your feeble one sided argument falls short on the 'targeting' of domestics only, unless that is you suffer from Ailurophobia and want to wipe out some of our most threatened native species to boot
Anyhow, I'm still waiting on a reply to the indigenous bit
me/claps his moggies while cackling at ajm's futile attempts to 'legally' fight cat power
but , as toxiplasmosis occurs in wild cats as well, I feel that your feeble one sided argument falls short on the 'targeting' of domestics only, unless that is you suffer from Ailurophobia and want to wipe out some of our most threatened native species to boot Anyhow, I'm still waiting on a reply to the indigenous bit
me/claps his moggies while cackling at ajm's futile attempts to 'legally' fight cat power
30 April 2004, 09:05 PM
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in the new world order there will be no cats
sorry about that, but i've already made up my mind and nothing that any of you soppy c***s say will change it.
rabbits will still be allowed, if that's any consolation.
sorry about that, but i've already made up my mind and nothing that any of you soppy c***s say will change it.
rabbits will still be allowed, if that's any consolation.
30 April 2004, 09:11 PM
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btw why have you turned of your pm's ajm, too much hate mail?
I was only gonna offer to send you a piccie of one oh ma cats after some sad, sick, twisted cowardly snide wee ****** tried to kill it by shooting it in the head with an air gun. But I guess that even this wouldnt make any diff to your views on the eradication of a fellow species, a species that inhabits this sick planet of twisted sick **** off humans who do more harm than cats ever will
btw I did eventually find out who did it, but I better not say any more for the threat of losing my present liberty......... anyway, I'll let you guess that I bear grudges like this with extreme prejudice.
From your usually balanced posts, I expect more from you.
I was only gonna offer to send you a piccie of one oh ma cats after some sad, sick, twisted cowardly snide wee ****** tried to kill it by shooting it in the head with an air gun. But I guess that even this wouldnt make any diff to your views on the eradication of a fellow species, a species that inhabits this sick planet of twisted sick **** off humans who do more harm than cats ever will
btw I did eventually find out who did it, but I better not say any more for the threat of losing my present liberty......... anyway, I'll let you guess that I bear grudges like this with extreme prejudice.
From your usually balanced posts, I expect more from you.
30 April 2004, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
paaa, damn you and your google links ajm but , as toxiplasmosis occurs in wild cats as well, I feel that your feeble one sided argument falls short on the 'targeting' of domestics only, unless that is you suffer from Ailurophobia and want to wipe out some of our most threatened native species to boot
Anyhow, I'm still waiting on a reply to the indigenous bit
me/claps his moggies while cackling at ajm's futile attempts to 'legally' fight cat power
but , as toxiplasmosis occurs in wild cats as well, I feel that your feeble one sided argument falls short on the 'targeting' of domestics only, unless that is you suffer from Ailurophobia and want to wipe out some of our most threatened native species to boot Anyhow, I'm still waiting on a reply to the indigenous bit
me/claps his moggies while cackling at ajm's futile attempts to 'legally' fight cat power
...You are saying that because there are some indigenous Wild Cats, that also help to gestate toxoplasma, domestic cats can have no effect on the spread of the parasite and that because of this I have no reason to object against cat ownership?
Firstly, my argument centres mainly on the material losses such as damage, nuisance etc. that cats cause. The disease aspect, for me at least, is a lower priority issue. Males infected with it tend to become more aggressive, so no change for me then
Secondly, what proportion of cats that come into contact with human beings, be it via direct contact or via faeces, do you think consists of true Wild Cats? Even taking into account feral cross breeds we are talking seriously rare in comparison. The last feral cross I saw alive was down the scope of a .243 in a farm yard and that was 7 years ago! I am treated to a domestic cat turd on a weekly basis.
I was only gonna offer to send you a piccie of one oh ma cats after some sad, sick, twisted cowardly snide wee ****** tried to kill it by shooting it in the head with an air gun. But I guess that even this wouldnt make any diff to your views on the eradication of a fellow species, a species that inhabits this sick planet of twisted sick **** off humans who do more harm than cats ever will
btw I did eventually find out who did it, but I better not say any more for the threat of losing my present liberty......... anyway, I'll let you guess that I bear grudges like this with extreme prejudice.
From your usually balanced posts, I expect more from you.
btw I did eventually find out who did it, but I better not say any more for the threat of losing my present liberty......... anyway, I'll let you guess that I bear grudges like this with extreme prejudice.
From your usually balanced posts, I expect more from you.
This is altogether a more sinister post.... your love of cats drove you to commit a violent (inferred admittedly) crime against someone and yet you lot think I am mad because I have a view on cats that I can back up with sound arguments and facts. Go figure!
30 April 2004, 10:01 PM
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Right, first let me try and assemble your mutterings into a coherant argument - I am nothing if not generous
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30 April 2004, 10:16 PM
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I am treated to a domestic cat turd on a weekly basis
Why oh why does any cat thread turn into the way it always does, I hate P****s and Travellers, but that does not make me want to go around and kill every ****** that lives in a caravan, and have you seen some of the **** that they leave around!!!
Grow up and get a ******* life
30 April 2004, 10:21 PM
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In defence of ajm (cat hatred notwithstanding) he has his moments and deffo cheers me up with his usual posts
I'm sure he can be brought around with a few doses of toxi
I'm sure he can be brought around with a few doses of toxi
30 April 2004, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
In fact, after reading this bit again dont bother replying to my mutterings, you're sounding too much like our elitist argumentative mutual 'friend' for my liking m8
Your partner knows exactly what you like to eat and talk, personally a lot of people on here think you should **** OFF and get a ******* life and find something more creative to do, but no, you are nearly as bad as that other **** WIT gtr man
Why oh why does any cat thread turn into the way it always does, I hate P****s and Travellers, but that does not make me want to go around and kill every ****** that lives in a caravan, and have you seen some of the **** that they leave around!!!
Grow up and get a ******* life
Why oh why does any cat thread turn into the way it always does, I hate P****s and Travellers, but that does not make me want to go around and kill every ****** that lives in a caravan, and have you seen some of the **** that they leave around!!!
Grow up and get a ******* life
Fred, your foul mouthed outburst was totally unecessary. Speak to me like a human being. If you disagree with my views then put forward your own argument.
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