80p a litre ? You should be out rioting !
08 May 2004, 10:22 PM
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if we are a democracy ....then start acting democratically...
take your protest to the gov!!!! a few petrol protests will get results!!!!
and a bloody nose at the elections shortly...
all you got to say to the guys when they want there exit polls,
yes i voted .... but not for you cos i dont like the way you treat motorists!!!!!!!
it will soon filter back!!!!
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take your protest to the gov!!!! a few petrol protests will get results!!!!
and a bloody nose at the elections shortly...
all you got to say to the guys when they want there exit polls,
yes i voted .... but not for you cos i dont like the way you treat motorists!!!!!!!
it will soon filter back!!!!
mart
08 May 2004, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by milo
yes - but surely as a contractor, you get to charge a set rate. what do YOU do if someone wants your services, but thinks you're too pricey (presumably you tell them either pay your rate, or they don't get your services?).
.Like i said......dont get me started on company car drivers.....it makes me laugh when all they seem to go on about is company car tax.....a couple of grand a year to run an almost brand new car isnt a lot you CC drivers!!! 
....trust me....try having your own car without getting any petrol money 
08 May 2004, 10:28 PM
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You wont believe how we get shafted on travel in the contracting game m8
Originally Posted by Riprock
try having your own car without getting any petrol money
i just choose to use it VERY rarely. nobody's ever given me a penny for petrol.
08 May 2004, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
PS, Riprock, if you knew you needed your car to do such a HIGH mileage for your work, why the **** did you buy a Scooby which is lucky to do 25mpg. Surely you knew petrol was likely to increase in cost?
Oops sorry m8...dont know why you had the impression i had a scoob?????(maybe because im on a scooby site
)...but no..i have a octavia....(*cough* vRS ) .....i know i know not exactly the most economical car to run,but uses less juice than the TEG type R i had before (cant stay out of that vtec ).But in my defence on my runs to birkenhead im averaging(by the trip computer) 36 to 40 mpg...which isnt to shabby for any car really....lucky its chock-ablock and 60 to 70 in long stretches......keeps the MPG up...i might be tempted otherwise
08 May 2004, 10:30 PM
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Most of the money spent on petrol is duty. If crude has caused a price increase to this extent, the governemnt should do what they claim and reduce duty accordingly. As usual they have failed to respond. Vote the buggers out.
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08 May 2004, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by milo
if you feel that way, get out of it! it's not worth being shafted or being unhappy at work (afterall, work is a HUGE chunk of your life).
i do i just choose to use it VERY rarely. nobody's ever given me a penny for petrol.
i do
i just choose to use it VERY rarely. nobody's ever given me a penny for petrol.(the one about taking steps
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08 May 2004, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Riprock
Oops sorry m8...dont know why you had the impression i had a scoob?????(maybe because im on a scooby site )...but no..i have a octavia....(*cough* vRS )
)...but no..i have a octavia....(*cough* vRS )You said eariler :
Your making this comment on a car site?? .
You're making this comment on a Subaru site??
08 May 2004, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Most of the money spent on petrol is duty. If crude has caused a price increase to this extent, the governemnt should do what they claim and reduce duty accordingly. As usual they have failed to respond. Vote the buggers out.
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Car use/ownership rose despite the tax escaltor the Tories introduced, so why should/would any government cut such a guaranteed cash cow?
08 May 2004, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Sorry, can't resist....
You said eariler :
..hence.... :
You're making this comment on a Subaru site??
You said eariler :
..hence.... :
You're making this comment on a Subaru site??
........whos the daddy hehe...only joking!!!
08 May 2004, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Riprock
Oh well.......im nipping out to get a ruby murrey....yes im goin in the jam jar.Its 3 miles away and pissing it down .......dont be to harsh on me
.......dont be to harsh on me ...I actually DID cycle 4 miles for the indian takeway one night!! Phoned in the order, jumped in the car, and the ****** wouldn't start!
Jumped on my mountain bike, and did the 4 mile round trip to get it. Mind you, made me appreciate it even more once I'd stopped sweating 10 minutes after getting home! (followed by 20 minutes of sweating eating the ******!!).
08 May 2004, 10:45 PM
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oh well....i think we are coming to an amicable end to the thread....we will have to agree to disagree on certain points ...no amount linguistic intrepidity (go oooonnn!!!! ) will change either of our minds to much.Better that it ends this way rather than an out and out slanging match .
2 MORE LAMB BHUNAS OVER HERE PLEASE!!
...no amount linguistic intrepidity (go oooonnn!!!! ) will change either of our minds to much.Better that it ends this way rather than an out and out slanging match .2 MORE LAMB BHUNAS OVER HERE PLEASE!!
08 May 2004, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Fair enough.....
...I actually DID cycle 4 miles for the indian takeway one night!! Phoned in the order, jumped in the car, and the ****** wouldn't start!
Jumped on my mountain bike, and did the 4 mile round trip to get it. Mind you, made me appreciate it even more once I'd stopped sweating 10 minutes after getting home! (followed by 20 minutes of sweating eating the ******!!).
...I actually DID cycle 4 miles for the indian takeway one night!! Phoned in the order, jumped in the car, and the ****** wouldn't start!
Jumped on my mountain bike, and did the 4 mile round trip to get it. Mind you, made me appreciate it even more once I'd stopped sweating 10 minutes after getting home! (followed by 20 minutes of sweating eating the ******!!).
Don't they deliver round your way?
They only use 50cc bikes here in N. London, so not too bad on fuel
08 May 2004, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
The attack on petrol with the huge duties we pay now was started by Ken Clarke.
Car use/ownership rose despite the tax escaltor the Tories introduced, so why should/would any government cut such a guaranteed cash cow?
Car use/ownership rose despite the tax escaltor the Tories introduced, so why should/would any government cut such a guaranteed cash cow?
As it happens, I did respond to economic realities, and I now commute in a 1300 N reg Escort Estate. The Scoob is currently driven only to stop the rust setting in, and I let bikes give me my performance buzz.
08 May 2004, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
So are you saying it's our fault then? Perhaps we should all drive around in Micras?
As it happens, I did respond to economic realities, and I now commute in a 1300 N reg Escort Estate. The Scoob is currently driven only to stop the rust setting in, and I let bikes give me my performance buzz.
As it happens, I did respond to economic realities, and I now commute in a 1300 N reg Escort Estate. The Scoob is currently driven only to stop the rust setting in, and I let bikes give me my performance buzz.
You seem to be saying that this government being removed will change the current taxation policy on petrol/diesel. It won't.
The car is a major part of life for the majority of adults in this and every other developed country. We live in on a small Island that has too many cars, so they're taxed to ****. Yet the number of cars still grows.
They're on a winner!!
08 May 2004, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Surely you knew petrol was likely to increase in cost?
BTW - my original post was to raise the question as to why UK fuel prices are so high when most of (if not all of) Europe is paying less for more.
08 May 2004, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
No, I'm simply stating a fact.
You seem to be saying that this government being removed will change the current taxation policy on petrol/diesel. It won't.
The car is a major part of life for the majority of adults in this and every other developed country. We live in on a small Island that has too many cars, so they're taxed to ****. Yet the number of cars still grows.
They're on a winner!!
You seem to be saying that this government being removed will change the current taxation policy on petrol/diesel. It won't.
The car is a major part of life for the majority of adults in this and every other developed country. We live in on a small Island that has too many cars, so they're taxed to ****. Yet the number of cars still grows.
They're on a winner!!
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08 May 2004, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-Frenchie
BTW - my original post was to raise the question as to why UK fuel prices are so high when most of (if not all of) Europe is paying less for more.
other countries tax different.. so either:
* tax more on other stuff
or
* spend less on public goods
or a combination of both.
08 May 2004, 11:37 PM
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True as above.
You may pay less for fuel in France but VAT is just shy of 20%.
And try buying a beer for less than £4 in a bar and you're doing well.
The UK is a high tax nation but there are higher taxed countries that offer no better quality of life.
You may pay less for fuel in France but VAT is just shy of 20%.
And try buying a beer for less than £4 in a bar and you're doing well.
The UK is a high tax nation but there are higher taxed countries that offer no better quality of life.
08 May 2004, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Don't they deliver indian takeaway round your way?
They only use 50cc bikes here in N. London, so not too bad on fuel
They only use 50cc bikes here in N. London, so not too bad on fuel
08 May 2004, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
They do, but I decided it'd be quicker overall to pick it up myself rather than wait another hour to get it delivered.....it's a very popular outlet, hence they often quote 60-90 minutes to deliver.......well worth the wait, but the cycle won that time
09 May 2004, 12:06 AM
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I knew I should have done chemistry instead of electronics at uni....
I could have set up a lab in the garage and created my own fuel. I'm sure there are ways of reducing the corrosive effects of alcohol based fuels. If only I knew how.
I'll have to buy an old diesel car instead and make do with cooking oil for now
Seriously though, how can these fuel prices continue when the public have no viable cheap alternative? Buses and Trains will already hike their over-inflated fares using the fuel prices as an excuse. The infrastructure in this country is a mess, yet it's the most expensive.
Take the MRT tube in singapore from one end of the island to the other...and it will cost pennies (60p to be accurate). Do the same on a train in the UK and it costs pounds. So, you pay more for a service that is unreliable, slow, dirty and doesn't take you where you want to go. Fantastic isn't it? And the goverment wonder why people insist on using cars
I could have set up a lab in the garage and created my own fuel. I'm sure there are ways of reducing the corrosive effects of alcohol based fuels. If only I knew how.
I'll have to buy an old diesel car instead and make do with cooking oil for now
Seriously though, how can these fuel prices continue when the public have no viable cheap alternative? Buses and Trains will already hike their over-inflated fares using the fuel prices as an excuse. The infrastructure in this country is a mess, yet it's the most expensive.
Take the MRT tube in singapore from one end of the island to the other...and it will cost pennies (60p to be accurate). Do the same on a train in the UK and it costs pounds. So, you pay more for a service that is unreliable, slow, dirty and doesn't take you where you want to go. Fantastic isn't it? And the goverment wonder why people insist on using cars