Lets cheer up the Scots and Welsh .....
13 June 2004, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
You sad gits - not supporting England 
not true footie supporters then... I support ANY British team in any competition.... cos I am British!!
not true footie supporters then... I support ANY British team in any competition.... cos I am British!!For instance, when it comes to football, FIFA/UEFA/whoever have decided that Great Britain/United Kingdom can have separate national football teams for each country (ie, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland and another one whose name I often forget). The England team does not draw on players from Scotland/Wales/N.Ireland, so people don't necessarily have an interest in a team not containing any of their own people.
Therefore, given this segregation of nationalities when it comes to football, people are free to make their own choice as to which other country they support in a competition. When their first selection is their own country, it doesn't necessarily follow their next selection should be another country in the UK.
For instance, a lot of Celtic fans will probably have more reason to follow Sweden in Euro 2004 - there are more Celtic players in the Swedish team than in the English team
If, however, there was a UK national football team, then it would be natural to expect all those within the UK to support that team.
13 June 2004, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Why do the English show support to the Welsh then in competitions against other European teams? FFS Chip be realistic shed your bigotry 
shed your bigotry ie, if you are a ManU fan, supporting Barry Town is not a disservice to ManU!
Supporting England if you are a Wales fan is completely different! It is disloyalty to your own side
13 June 2004, 05:23 PM
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Redkop,
Out of interest, if the Champions League final was between Man U & Glasgow Celtic, who would you support? The team from your own country I assume?
Out of interest, if the Champions League final was between Man U & Glasgow Celtic, who would you support? The team from your own country I assume?
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13 June 2004, 05:46 PM
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Celtic 
only because ManU are Liverpool's greatest adversaries. Plus, I am a closet Celtic fan. So perhaps, if you had chosen 2 different teams, my answer would have been different
only because ManU are Liverpool's greatest adversaries. Plus, I am a closet Celtic fan. So perhaps, if you had chosen 2 different teams, my answer would have been different
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13 June 2004, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Celtic only because ManU are Liverpool's greatest adversaries. Plus, I am a closet Celtic fan. So perhaps, if you had chosen 2 different teams, my answer would have been different
only because ManU are Liverpool's greatest adversaries. Plus, I am a closet Celtic fan. So perhaps, if you had chosen 2 different teams, my answer would have been different Now apply your logic to Scottish people supporting England, and you may now see why your comments on all UK people supporting England seem a bit OTT. To call it "bigotry" is 100% wrong.
Touche, as they say
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13 June 2004, 07:21 PM
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Disagree! IMO if you are a British citizen, you support a 'British' team regardless. All in my opinion of course. Why become a Croatian or a French supporter? 
Sounds like the ol' green eye jealousy to me.
Sounds like the ol' green eye jealousy to me.
13 June 2004, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Disagree! IMO if you are a British citizen, you support a 'British' team regardless. All in my opinion of course. Why become a Croatian or a French supporter? Sounds like the ol' green eye jealousy to me.
Sounds like the ol' green eye jealousy to me.The case is exactly the same. We're just expanding the geographic boundaries
Anyway, it's not jealousy at all. It's just a natural & competitive age-old rivalrly.
Oh, and remember, Scotland have qualified for MORE world cup finals than England ever have.....
13 June 2004, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Disagree! IMO if you are a British citizen, you support a 'British' team regardless.
IMO if you are a English citizen, you support a 'English' team regardless
...or even!!!
IMO if you are a Liverpool citizen, you support a 'Liverpool' team regardless
13 June 2004, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
So if I were to say to you :
...how is that any different, and therefore, why would you support Celtic if they were playing ManU?
...or even!!!
...how is that any different, and therefore, why would you support Celtic if they were playing ManU?
...or even!!!
13 June 2004, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
See above... no Liverpool supporter would get behind Man U playing against another British team. Fact!
So, which part of this is different....
no Scotland supporter would get behind England playing against another worldwide team
13 June 2004, 08:44 PM
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Redkop isn't a Liverpool citezin
Usually quite a few Scottish people take offence at being called British. I'm not taking offence, just stating that I am of Scottish blood and that is what I will be called! Don't want to be associated in anyway whatsoever with the English in that way, we are a totally different breed (Whilst on the subject of football, I will use our footie fans as an example! Maybe not the best looking bunch but they are bloody well behaved )!!!!!!
Usually quite a few Scottish people take offence at being called British. I'm not taking offence, just stating that I am of Scottish blood and that is what I will be called! Don't want to be associated in anyway whatsoever with the English in that way, we are a totally different breed (Whilst on the subject of football, I will use our footie fans as an example! Maybe not the best looking bunch but they are bloody well behaved
)!!!!!!
13 June 2004, 08:45 PM
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I'm not really a footie fan either, but I went to France 98 as our company were sponsoring it. What a fecking laugh - shame the fun was interrupted by having to watch 22 guys on a grass field! HONESTLY! The Tartan Army IS the tops. Not one single bit of trouble.
13 June 2004, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
no Scotland supporter would get behind England playing against another worldwide team
Cooooome on Croatia
13 June 2004, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Why are there Scots in the English section of the S of L then supporting England then. You answer me that? Correct me if I am wrong, but Elgin is in Scotland, isn't it?
Correct me if I am wrong, but Elgin is in Scotland, isn't it?
13 June 2004, 08:56 PM
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Thats very true as well imlach. They don't have the ***** to wear traditional dress (they don't seem to understand that lassies throw themselves at blokes in kilts!) 
13 June 2004, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
By winning EURO2004!!
I would love to see their faces if England actually do something
I see that all they can do is to wave French flags and kiss the frogs backsides - which is a shame seeing as they have cr4p footie teams
COME ON ENGLAND - show them who puts the GREAT in Great Britain!!
Pete
I would love to see their faces if England actually do something
I see that all they can do is to wave French flags and kiss the frogs backsides - which is a shame seeing as they have cr4p footie teams
COME ON ENGLAND - show them who puts the GREAT in Great Britain!!
Pete
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13 June 2004, 10:09 PM
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France did a good job and finally, once again, we choked.
Question for the Scots here - which Group are you in actually?
Or are you so ashamed of being beaten 66-nil by the Dutch that you aren't going to bother turning up to your group matches...
Question for the Scots here - which Group are you in actually?
Or are you so ashamed of being beaten 66-nil by the Dutch that you aren't going to bother turning up to your group matches...
13 June 2004, 10:13 PM
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we don't care suresh. we know our team is pish and i doubt anyone will NOT admit to that, but we're happy because of the arrogance some people on here show!!!
13 June 2004, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
France did a good job and finally, once again, we choked.
Question for the Scots here - which Group are you in actually?
Or are you so ashamed of being beaten 66-nil by the Dutch that you aren't going to bother turning up to your group matches...
Question for the Scots here - which Group are you in actually?
Or are you so ashamed of being beaten 66-nil by the Dutch that you aren't going to bother turning up to your group matches...
2-1 Thats the difference
From stephen the half swedish & half croat with a french father in law
up ye !!!!!!!
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