mj

nahh, not having it, still bloody awful.


they should have made the blue inserts black leather to contrast with the suede - well it looks like suede anyway

max_b

having had the r32 back to back against the rs, for drive ability and involvement, the RS gets my vote

the 32 feels more of an old mans car, whereas the rs is designed to keep you awake!

shameless plug > see mine for sale here RS FOR SALE
and pics here
RS PICS

talizman you also have pm

sti-04!!

John - having tried all these cars & owning the RS for 6 months, i have to say go for the R32, RS is a hard car, hard to live with IMHO, the 1st month of owning the RS was wicked, totally loved it, then i grew to know the car, began to hate it & started to look for something else a few months later i ordered the scoob, my g/f couldnt drive the RS (she aint even gettin to sit in the drivers seat of the scoob) she found it hard to drive. Mini's are ten a penny, got about 3 in my street (all specs), had the R32 for a day & really liked it was actually going to go for it until i realised that the insurance for the scoob was under a grand.

Go for the R32 you wont regret it

Stephen

talizman

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Stephen,

I probably won't drive the car an awful lot, just as I don't drive the Clio much at the moment so I reckon the RS would satisfy my "occasional" pleasure! Ooh err!

I test drove an RS prior to buying my MY03 STi PPP which was a bit of an unfair comparison, so I obviously chose the STi.

The RS instead of the Cup however, is quite appealing, and I have to be honest, I think the RS is a nicer looking car than anything Subaru have ever made!

I cannot see us going for the Golf as I just cannot bring myself to spend over £20k on a Golf!

Dilemma.......

22B anyone?

sti-04!!

there is one for sale but i think its your friends that have it SCS ?!?!?

talizman

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What, a 22B?

sti-04!!

i think so

defo seen one at k/h in someones stand, defo think it was SCS

Cos dick...s had a skyline & a Ra with a carbon(not for me) bonnet

yeah it was SCS though it was the usual price

25k

talizman

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I know that Stan Palmers have one.....

It had a £5.5k engine re-build and its up for £22,995.

Hmmmmmmmm

talizman

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Yummy

wall

"Mini's = gayboys & tarts"

LOL I have a MCS JCW and I'm married (to a female), and to top it off she's not a tart, so there goes your theory ...

W

mj

, I was generalising a just little bit

Speedmeister

I test drove a Cooper S demonstrator with 17" wheels and it was so hard it shook my fillings out and everything rattled. V. disappointing for a BMW.
I wasn't impressed with performance either.
Bought WRX!! Much better!

Gizmo555

What about the Alfa 147 GTA


Beats them all in a straight line but might struggle around the corners

Built quality is superb when compared to my MY00 Scoob

Cheers

Mark

talizman

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SPANNER IN THE WORKS!!!!!

We went to our local BMW garage today to have a (proper) look at Cooper S, as I'm not entirely familiar with them.....

Anyway, the BM garage adjoins a Honda dealership and guess what?

Yep, she now "wants" a Civic Type R, even though she hated them when I test drove one 18 months ago!

Bloomin' women!!!!

Anyway, she has bombed out the Cooper S and I've managed to get the R32 idea out of her head, so the short list is now.......

Focus RS
Civic Type R

Thats it, for now!

scoobydooooo

you know you'll go to every garage on the planet and end up in the first one you went to !

talizman

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LOL, probably

dhorwich

i hate fords but out of the two id prob go for the RS because there are so many civic type R's about... But then again the civic can be had for 12-13K now.

Dan

max_b

talizman forget the breadvan and go for the RS - esp mine as it for sale!!! ;-)

talizman

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max_b,

If one of the cars were sold, I'd buy yours mate!

Not unless you want to re-consider my p/ex offer?

dsmith

You'll pay 20K on a Focus - but wouldnt on a Golf .

Not sure there's any logic there.......

CTR better bet than both imho.

Dean

lancerevoclub.org

drove all cars and must say that the mini was most disappointing.
The Focus RS did quite well, you can even feel how much marchin this engine has, which has also been confirmed by someone I know who tuned it to 280bhp..

you say: 'on the front wheels???' yes.. and it works quite well, you have definately more wheel spin, but it goes well!

but we all really want a focus cosworth.. (4x4 - 310bhp)

talizman

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Its anti-VW logic!

Focus RS's can be had for £18.5k all day long.

R32's are still £21-£22k

Too much of a price difference, especially when it'd be my last choice.

Shortboy

Had a couple of Golfs before the scooby : GTi 1.8T and V6 4 motion for a year each. Despite everything you hear about Golfs, they were the worst cars I've ever had for build, reliability, dealers....never again.

Donkster

Interesting. I'm defecting to the "darkside". I've owned a VW Golf V6 4motion for a year now having bought it when it was a few months old and have thoroughly enjoyed it, and i'd recommend them. BUT, i'm moving on and pick up me new scooby on Monday 28th. I feel like a little kid again

max_b

as much as i like the rb5, and think the clio cup is excellent vfm, not the right timing for me with either of these cars

might be worth trying the clio on www.cliosport.net
should get some response of their for your car

talizman

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There are already a couple of underpriced Cups on there just now, and they don't seem to be selling on there.

To be fair, I think that ClioSport.net are in th emain, younger guys with Clio Williams and 16 valvers, as quite often insurance is the topic and their ages become apparent when you hear the quotes for the 172/Cup they get!

Its a pity I'm not closer to Junction 28 Car Sales as they have a collection of RS's at the moment, even if it meant taking a bit of a hit on the Clio....

Oh well

hawki

Should have kept them a bit longer

6 years old
110,000 on the clock no internal upgrades - 360 bhp
stood behind it the last time it was getting abit of stick on a rolling road, very clear not a hint of smoke

Never use a main dealer they are clueless most of the time but isn't that true of most dealers

sti-04!!

John - i hate the Civic, tell her just to get the 22b failing that its got to be the RS, i wont drop any money, will soon be a collectors cars & (since having a wee blast in one 2day) are wicked little cars (this one was tuned to 280bhp as well)
I know i owned one & hated it but its like that dirty girl you know (well i do) you cant live with it but a little shot every now & again feels great (even ifs she had a transplant)

RS mate its got to be

Tell her listen ........ think about the wedding & the fact we are trying to save money & cut back, well the focus wont lose any money over the next couple of years its going to be a collectors item in the future & ........ it really make sense.

Go for it

Stephen

mj

so to sum up, it's her car, but "we have owned since new" - so you helped pay for it

forget the rest, buy her a 1.3 Ka. I am embarrassed for you that you had to ask the question on SN

Spend the rest of the 20K on something for the track

talizman

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Who do you thinks pays for it?

Ka?

Why should an enthusiast settle for a Ka? Would you?

Embarrassed? Don't be.

I value the opinions of SN members, hence why I ask for theirs.

Spend it on something for the track?

The Cup is a track car, and the RB5 is pretty capable too!