220bhp 205 Mi16 - superb track car!
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Dream Weaver - no question - you gotta do it!! I love my Pug, and its gut-wrenching to sell it. I own an M3 Evo, dakar yellow, but the Pug is soooo much more fun to drive in every way. M3 is only a motorway weapon, given the choice of rolling into work in a leather clad, climate controlled ICE'd up Beemer, or a noisy, stripped out, bouncy, cant-hear-stereo-worth-a-**** Pug then I choose the old Pug every time! I love sitting in traffic with my suit shirt and tie on and this roll cage around me, folk staring in thinking what da ****?!
So, eh, yeh, off on a tangent there, but go for it, you know you want to! It just has to be done.
So, eh, yeh, off on a tangent there, but go for it, you know you want to! It just has to be done.
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Funny coz I had the same reaction clambering out of the car over the cage this morning at the petrol station, with shirt and tie on lol.
Still friday morning at 4am the neighbours will once again be awoken as i sneak off to dover on my way to the Nurburgring for the third, but not last time this year.
Still friday morning at 4am the neighbours will once again be awoken as i sneak off to dover on my way to the Nurburgring for the third, but not last time this year.
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I will probably do it, just dont want to get to the stage your at now having spent £10k on a 14 year old car.
Having said that may be getting a 1.6 in red next week as well - not sure what for yet but I cant resist Just need to find a trailor to tow it with now
Having said that may be getting a 1.6 in red next week as well - not sure what for yet but I cant resist Just need to find a trailor to tow it with now
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yes i went to extremes, could have done things cheaper but I dont do half measures, I knew i'd never recoup the cash i'd forked out but i intended keeping it forever (I was gutted when i sold my grey 205 Mi16 to fund a Cossie, swore i'd never make the same mistake again). But house prices are crazy in Aberdeen (well, everywhere) right now so I've been forced into it.
Most folk take their time with their projects, hunt around for 2nd hand bits and that, but i just did it all very quickly, its what i'm like, it was like right must get more power, ok, i'll get some head work done! After that, must get it handling/gripping better - cue suspension mods and LSD! Doh, paintwork bit faded after all these years - bing bong - respray! Shells need done on engine - ah **** it - lets just rebuild the whole thing and also uprate it at the same time! Got a bit carried away but the car is so much fun i couldnt resist. Some folk said you're crazy to spend £000's on a 12 year old 205 but hell what do they know!
Most folk take their time with their projects, hunt around for 2nd hand bits and that, but i just did it all very quickly, its what i'm like, it was like right must get more power, ok, i'll get some head work done! After that, must get it handling/gripping better - cue suspension mods and LSD! Doh, paintwork bit faded after all these years - bing bong - respray! Shells need done on engine - ah **** it - lets just rebuild the whole thing and also uprate it at the same time! Got a bit carried away but the car is so much fun i couldnt resist. Some folk said you're crazy to spend £000's on a 12 year old 205 but hell what do they know!
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i have not finished mine yet, have nearly all the bits though!
the red one looks soooooo clean mate - pukka job. i think i will be stripping out the whole of tha back also - what do they weigh in that state?
sorry for the thread hijacking!
the red one looks soooooo clean mate - pukka job. i think i will be stripping out the whole of tha back also - what do they weigh in that state?
sorry for the thread hijacking!
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Originally Posted by al205mi16
223 @ wheels?! ... around 260-270 @ fly?! that must have been some machine with some engine spec? Did you have any performance times? I find once you go over 220bhp or so in a FWD car its not really worth it as you lose the power you'vee gainedd through wheel spin. Certainly for short sprints anyway. Thats why I stayed clear of the 205 TT - great once they get going but pretty useless through the first 3 gears. I remember the guy at Pug Performance had a touring car engined 205 (280-300bhp?) and he only managed the same 1/4 mile time as I did!
At the time of its death the engine had been fully lightened and balanced had head, cam and valve work, throttle bodies and a 4-2-1 manifold and exhaust.
It was 251 at the fly and i was running a Gti 6 box (crap for right hand u turns!) and slip diff and was almost imposible to drive in the wet the six speed actually helped with traction as the first two ratios were a little longer than the 1.9 box which helped reduce wheelspin to an extent untill the slip diff was fitted.
Pug peformance bought what was left of my car (the engine)
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I took mine to a toll bridge and it came in at under 850 kilos. That was before the roll cage went in, which would be about 30-40 kilos maybe? Although the standard half leather seats are feckin heavy so fitting a pair of lightweight buckets would compensate for that. There's a lot more I could have stripped out (carpet/sound deadening weighs a lot!) but i was still using it as an every day road car. Could scrape under 800 kilos with ease. This would take it up to 275bhp per tonne! Its sitting at over 250bhp/per tonne at the mo...
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Perspex windows ... lightweight bonnet ... remove sound deadening ... lightweight alloys ... where do you stop! You're right it would be a bit of a struggle to get to 800 kilos but i think it would be achievable.
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