P1 fuel???????????????????
#31
david, i am not saying your product doesnt work!
What i am asking is for you to "put your money where your mouth is" i suppose.
I would have thought the main reason people would want to use a product like yours is to protect against pre-ignition when stressing the engine more than is normal, i.e. on a track day.
My engine is mapped to run on 97ron and be safe at 26PSI, it is perfectly safe for road use as is. The reason i use an octane booster on track is simply as an insurance policy, strictly speaking it is not required.
There are however a large number of STi's being used on track days that work fine on 97ron on the road, they will only start to sufer pre-ignition (det) when the combustion chamber temps are increased due to long open throttle use on track.
Based on your comments i dont see how any of these people could have confidence in using your product on track days.
What i am asking is for you to "put your money where your mouth is" i suppose.
I would have thought the main reason people would want to use a product like yours is to protect against pre-ignition when stressing the engine more than is normal, i.e. on a track day.
My engine is mapped to run on 97ron and be safe at 26PSI, it is perfectly safe for road use as is. The reason i use an octane booster on track is simply as an insurance policy, strictly speaking it is not required.
There are however a large number of STi's being used on track days that work fine on 97ron on the road, they will only start to sufer pre-ignition (det) when the combustion chamber temps are increased due to long open throttle use on track.
Based on your comments i dont see how any of these people could have confidence in using your product on track days.
#33
KF,
My reply posted before your amendment!
But yes we do say that it will last without itself materially changing. I have used the same Broquet unit in a Mini 1000 for 12 years and it still works and looks exactly the same as it did in 1988. Sadly the Mini doesn't.
David Lock
My reply posted before your amendment!
But yes we do say that it will last without itself materially changing. I have used the same Broquet unit in a Mini 1000 for 12 years and it still works and looks exactly the same as it did in 1988. Sadly the Mini doesn't.
David Lock
#34
David,
Ahhhh. Interesting. Then my question stands. If the catalyst is not present at the combustion site (which if the block isn't disolving would appear to be the case) then it isn't a catalyst in the combustion process, but of a chemical reaction that is occuring in the petrol tank. Isn't there any test that can be done to see the difference between the petrol pre and post catalyst, as I am sure all the major petro-chemical companies would like to make their transporters with a metal lining of this nature?
KF.
[This message has been edited by KF (edited 07-07-2000).]
Ahhhh. Interesting. Then my question stands. If the catalyst is not present at the combustion site (which if the block isn't disolving would appear to be the case) then it isn't a catalyst in the combustion process, but of a chemical reaction that is occuring in the petrol tank. Isn't there any test that can be done to see the difference between the petrol pre and post catalyst, as I am sure all the major petro-chemical companies would like to make their transporters with a metal lining of this nature?
KF.
[This message has been edited by KF (edited 07-07-2000).]
#35
John,
Very quickly. Perhaps I could turn the discussion around. All I am saying is use the same fuel etc and change nothing exept consider use of Broquet to help in the circumstances you describe - more tendency to det etc. We don't offer a Warranty because engines do blow up for 101 reasons in this sort of environment. This is not from some of a lack of confidence in our product but what I believe is a sensible approach to the realities of race and track events. Suppose you used Broquet without changing anything and your engine melted. Are you going to send me a bill for £10k and say it was because of Broquet? I could only respond by saying that it couldn't possibly have been. I am not sure if this has fully answered your post but it is in haste - preparing my car for a trip to the National Motor Museum this week end!
David Lock
Very quickly. Perhaps I could turn the discussion around. All I am saying is use the same fuel etc and change nothing exept consider use of Broquet to help in the circumstances you describe - more tendency to det etc. We don't offer a Warranty because engines do blow up for 101 reasons in this sort of environment. This is not from some of a lack of confidence in our product but what I believe is a sensible approach to the realities of race and track events. Suppose you used Broquet without changing anything and your engine melted. Are you going to send me a bill for £10k and say it was because of Broquet? I could only respond by saying that it couldn't possibly have been. I am not sure if this has fully answered your post but it is in haste - preparing my car for a trip to the National Motor Museum this week end!
David Lock
#38
bkar,
My fellow Broquet distributor and Scoobynet regular, Peter Wright, is best placed to answer this as he was involved in supply. Peter would be delighted to give you the background. Tel: 0800 0749798.
A search on "Broquet" will also reveal Eric Chadwick's posting of 02/03/2000 which answers your question.
David Lock
[This message has been edited by David Lock (edited 07-07-2000).]
My fellow Broquet distributor and Scoobynet regular, Peter Wright, is best placed to answer this as he was involved in supply. Peter would be delighted to give you the background. Tel: 0800 0749798.
A search on "Broquet" will also reveal Eric Chadwick's posting of 02/03/2000 which answers your question.
David Lock
[This message has been edited by David Lock (edited 07-07-2000).]
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