Just had a policeman on my doorstep!!!
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Copper spots and follows a subaru - on the phone for a PNC check. Car reg matches description and is NOT reported stolen - yet it gets pulled over anyway. I would not mind being pulled over occasionally for a random check but rather they just be honest than use an excuse like 'the no. plates are similar'.
Plenty cars are stolen and outstanding for a long time before the owner even realises its gone.
The ONLY way to absolutely confirm, is a spot check.
Originally Posted by papascooby
It's a disgusting abuse of power and the kind of thing that gives the police the bad name they seem to merit.
The police are a public service, so if a member of the public makes a complaint to them, it MUST be investigated and dealt with accordingly.
Where is power being abused in this scenario?????
Believe me, there are LOTS of minor reports/complaints that I would LOVE to sweep under the carpet, but if I did, I'd get done with neglect of duty.
Originally Posted by Bubba po
To get an appreciation of what happened, imagine that the people weren't in cars and were walking down the street. If some angry bloke was walking a foot behind you, shouting and screaming at you, you would have every right to report the incident and furnish the police with whatever descripion you could. There is an element that thinks it's acceptable behaviour to become angry at other road users and they should be re-educated, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by talizman
The thing you are failing to realise is that just because there is no "stolen marker" on the PNC, this doesn not mean the car is legit.
Plenty cars are stolen and outstanding for a long time before the owner even realises its gone.
The ONLY way to absolutely confirm, is a spot check.
Plenty cars are stolen and outstanding for a long time before the owner even realises its gone.
The ONLY way to absolutely confirm, is a spot check.
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Fair point, I thought a PNC check would highlight if a car had been reported stolen.
Perhaps in the future, our cars will automatically update the PNC if they are taken without the owners consent!
It'd make my job a lot easier!
The following scenario is not uncommon.....
A car commits thefts of petrol at numerous service stations over a period of time.
Enquiries are made at the registered keepers address, however there is never any reply.
After about 2 weeks, you finally get an answer at the door, only to find that the registered keeper has just stepped off a plane from his hols, and that his car has been stolen some 2 weeks ago, yet the PNC did not show a marker.
Nightmare.
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I actually agree with spot checks, at least that way they can ask you questions to confirm your identity, address etc, never been pulled in my scooby but then its a wagon and doesnt have an IKEA coffee table stuck on the back
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Fair point, I thought a PNC check would highlight if a car had been reported stolen.
I recovered an Astra GTE that had been stolen 5 yrs previously from Croydon and had been driving round with false plates from another car all that time
Nathan..
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Originally Posted by talizman
In an ideal world, yes, the police would be actively looking for each individual stolen car, but it is just not possible.
Most stolen cars are simply "happened upon".
Most stolen cars are simply "happened upon".
My point really is not that its bad policing in thoery, just a bit of a waste of resources in an already stretched organisation. But thats probably good for the overtime.
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Originally Posted by talizman
The following scenario is not uncommon.....
A car commits thefts of petrol at numerous service stations over a period of time.
Enquiries are made at the registered keepers address, however there is never any reply.
After about 2 weeks, you finally get an answer at the door, only to find that the registered keeper has just stepped off a plane from his hols, and that his car has been stolen some 2 weeks ago, yet the PNC did not show a marker.
A car commits thefts of petrol at numerous service stations over a period of time.
Enquiries are made at the registered keepers address, however there is never any reply.
After about 2 weeks, you finally get an answer at the door, only to find that the registered keeper has just stepped off a plane from his hols, and that his car has been stolen some 2 weeks ago, yet the PNC did not show a marker.
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
Isn't that supposed to be the big winner with trackers? Everytime I go away and leave mine (airport, port, driveway, etc.) I ring the RAC up and tell them. Then if the car moves they know it's stolen - simple
Then take into account that the few cars with trackers, may not be "active" trackers, therefore they only start "tracking" when you report the car stolen.
Uphill struggle all the way
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I'm surprised at the number of times people claim to be 'randomly' stopped. I've only ever been stopped twice; once was years ago, in a barely-legal Fiat Panda at 2am (fair enough!), and the other time was in my scooby for a random check of my documents. If you're getting pulled every month, are you really sure it's random, and that your driving isn't attracting attention?
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I'm surprised at the number of times people claim to be 'randomly' stopped. I've only ever been stopped twice; once was years ago, in a barely-legal Fiat Panda at 2am (fair enough!), and the other time was in my scooby for a random check of my documents. If you're getting pulled every month, are you really sure it's random, and that your driving isn't attracting attention?
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