tiggers

Nice one Paul

I'd forgotten about this thread and how silly the arguments became. Anyway the important thing is justice was done - the CPS and police making fools of themeselves yet again - just a pity they keep wasting the taxpayers money while they do it.

Have a nice relaxing drink now mate.

Regards,

tiggers.

unclebuck

Very funny. A few could do with eating some humble pie. Not that they ever would.

Good result.

SJ_Skyline

Mr. Takaga of top secret and it was a Mk IV supra

Good result

Leslie

I have to say Paul that I am sorry for all the trouble that has been heaped upon you, especially having to sell your Scoob and also the worries about the court case to come. The lesson to be learned of course, and you have already taken that on board, is was it really worth it? Thats one for us all to remember. The law states the maximum speed in this country and you exceed it at your own risk. Unless you favour complete anarchy, that how life is in this country, and when you get caught you can't realy complain. I know you are not complaining but a lot of people are trying to justify driving at those speeds.

I am very well used to controlling all sorts of machinery at very high speeds and a good many years experience on the racing tracks too. I agree that speed alone is not the danger that is stated so often, and I lived in Germany for 6 years too and used the autobahns regularly. The answer to those who say that very high speeds are safe here is that the most dangerous bit is the vast speed differential on our motorways at those speeds. Unless our speed limits were raised significantly that would always be the case. Other drivers just do not expect another car to be driving that fast.

I think you will have to persue the line about the equipment that they used. I am not sure but I think there was a case which was dropped under similar circumstances not too long ago. It looks as though there is a worry about the police evidence and maybe all the adjournments, as worrying as they are to you, are indicating that. Hedgehog has as always come up with good advice. I wish you luck.

I was sorry to see the posts from JWS, whatever anyone thinks about driving at such speeds, I think it was well out of place to write about it in such an unpleasant manner.

Les

tiggers

Les,

Am I missing something here?

Paul has just posted to say the case has been dismissed - all done and dusted.

Regards,

tiggers.

r32

Hey Paul, thats great news, I bet you feel so relieved?
Just goes to show you could plead guilty all the time, seems worthwhile to check the facts. The Bill have to abide by the rules and the law too.
But promise us all no more 128 mph's ok?
STEVE.............

scoobynutta555

Excellent result.

I have been caught previously for 100.3 mph on an empty dry motorway and got 6 points and £100 fine.

Re reading the previous posts i have some sympathy with high posted speeds, as I still regularly go over 100 when the conditions allow, ie always dry and clear long stretches of motorway.

The Autobahn route is the way forward I feel for the speed issue. Some very interesting points been made about the higher speed-lower accident rate stats. I would tend to agree with them as I should think there would be less lane hoggers and a general raised awareness of traffic if there was derestricted speed flows.

I am unaware of the traffic policing system in Germany on derestricted roads, but I'd imagine that more prosecutions should be made for dangerous/discourteous driving and a hefty ban for anybody abusing the system, if it were to be implemented in the UK.

There is such an **** attitude towards speed in this country and to be quite honest it sickens me. Obviously I'm not condoning twattish driving behaviour, just being realistic about modern cars.

Maybe there should be graded driving levels that go beyound the standard driving test. For an absolute minimum anybody that wants to drive on a motorway should have to pass an exam etc to show they are capable of handling this totally different driving environment compared to a mini roundabout near the local tescos.

SiPie

Where's JSW now

Do I hear the sound of someone choking on his words

Great result Paul

Tiggs

cant be bothered to reread this thread but i doubt the "do a 128mph and you are a ****" ppl will regard this chap getting off as them being proved wrong?

q for paul.....if conditions allow will you go that fast again?

SiPie

Personally I would like to see people convicted for those sort of speeds.... but I just never liked that JSW

Dream Weaver

Lucky bugger

IMHO speed should be related to conditions, road and traffic - everyone in this thread has been talking about either 70mph or 130mph, as if you can only choose either speed.

On a busy motorway 70mph is a suitable speed to do, on a deserted motorway with clear visibility and weather then anything up to 160mph is perfectly feasible. Wheres the danger in that to other people? If other cars start appearing, then slow back down.

FrenchBoy

Congratulations Paul!
I remember reading this thread at the time and I've just re-read it. Very enjoyable and a quality result.

Good to see Spoon, Tiggers and Hedgehog fighting the good fight (as usual).

Spoon

Excellent news Paul, well played.

Paul N P

I'm going to put this one down as a very near miss, i.e. a free of charge lesson learnt!

I've got away with this through persevering when things looked dodgy and probably worth giving up on many occasions. If I'd gone to court on my original date I'd be coming off a 6 month ban in 2 days. But it was the absent coppers that were the final straw for the magistrates not just the missing calibration certs. I'd challenged some factual inaccuracies in their statements and without them to back this up then no case thankfully.

I certainly won't be doing this again in the UK, just not worth the agro of the last 10 months. I wouldn't rule out doing that sort of speed for short periods on the autobahns in good/clear conditions etc though.

mart360

Paul,

i was going to post a negative .. but your last post has swayed me..

you have learnt a lesson, some may say not enough some may too harsh..

has it ever occured to you, that 6.5 months of delay, selling the scoob = the worry etc.. was what was planned!!

it could be argued that it rammed the message home... 6 month ban only lasts 6 months, and you could do it again. You seem to have learnt some what that you dont have to be found guilty to lose out!!

anyway i,ll leave it there befor the holier than thou brigade kick off

one word of caution though..

The bahns may have no speed limits in certain places...but have an accident

driving over the reccomended speed (130kph) and its your fault..period..

regardless of who was to blame.. oh and they dont take prisoners!!!!

mart

ajm

There are still some self-righteous undertones emerging here . If the SN holier than thou brigade can't give benefit of the doubt then, despite their social conditioning at the hands of "new labour", they must accept that, because he travelled at that speed and there was no accident, statistically it was more likely that it was a safe speed to do (in this particular situation) than not!

I am not ashamed to say that I would happily do 128 mph if it was safe to do so (and the chances of getting caught were slim )

Now, in the absence of any other evidence, we must accept that it was a safe (albeit illegal) speed to travel at.

There I've said it.

Tiggs

ajm,

if you do 128mph and care not about being caught then crack on. We except that its possible to do this without crashing. What i dont except is that its possible to do it and be sure you wont get caught. As long as getting caught doesnt bother you then fine.

.......but if you are on here with a post like paul's in 6 months you'll look a bit of a fool!

ps- good post by mart

ajm

Hence the caveat "and the chances of getting caught were slim" was included. Either way, if I were to get caught doing such a thing, I would keep it to myself... you can be assured of that!

p.s. accept, not "except"

micared

This is the most interesting thread on here for a while, a just result Paul, given the incompetent way in which the whole thing was handled. Think you'll find that the Police will struggle to successfully prosecute an alleged speeder who knows how to ask them the difficult questions in court.

Tiggs

ajm,

interesting that your point out my error while defending Paul of his. if my typos crash into your car be sure to let me know!

Leslie

My mistake Tiggers, I missed that post about the result.

Good news Paul, that is a victory over those who were trying it on without proper measurements. They should not be allowed to get away with that. Good to see that the magistrates were not biased too.

Les

Paul N P

I think I've just recently realised that the cops are here to try to uphold the law whereas the magistrates etc. are here to uphold justice. I may be guilty in principle but there is the major difference between the the 2. Thank god

5903

Hope it doesn't happen to me - bought the new Lasertrack Jammer from www.lidatek.co.uk - I live in South Wales and those cameras are a nightmare.

Paul N P

Whats the current legal status of laser jammers. I'd heard a rumour that these will be legal soon ??????

Also whats the damage if you get caught using one, assuming they are illegal. Is it perverting the course of justice or something like that?

Brendan Hughes

Who cares what the charge is, if they can't make it stick, eh Paul?