P1 vs 22B
14 July 2004, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
What a pile of **** some people spout. 
A 911 GT3/2, 996tt etc may be a lot faster everywhere than an early 70s 2.7RS, but to most in "the know" the 2.7RS is The Ultimate.
Just because something is more modern, has more toys and is faster, doesn't make it the ultimate. All it does is pander to people who know no better.
A 911 GT3/2, 996tt etc may be a lot faster everywhere than an early 70s 2.7RS, but to most in "the know" the 2.7RS is The Ultimate.
Just because something is more modern, has more toys and is faster, doesn't make it the ultimate. All it does is pander to people who know no better.
14 July 2004, 04:48 PM
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Hi Gents just joined this forum and stumbled on this interesting discussion, just to throw a cat amonst the pigeons, when talking about ultimate Impreza's what about the RB5? EVO 11 (09/99) The Greatest 4x4 Car of all time issue which the RB5 won eclipsing the UK 22B and WRX STIV in the process. Admittedly the P1 was not available at the time however the RB5 is definitely up there with the greats.
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14 July 2004, 05:32 PM
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LOL, I have this issue of EVO mag and I’ll have to agree with Pistol, the RB5 comes out on top of the 22B…. But what does EVO mag know eh!! 
Come on the UK turbo 
Come on the UK turbo
14 July 2004, 05:41 PM
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funny as **** all this arguing!
Do people just ask these questions when they`re bored? (coz they know people will be straight outta the traps saying 'you`re talking ****e, this cars better!')
Do people just ask these questions when they`re bored? (coz they know people will be straight outta the traps saying 'you`re talking ****e, this cars better!')
14 July 2004, 06:03 PM
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Yeah what do those experienced motoring journalists know don’t get me wrong I think the 22b is a fine car and easily the best looking Impreza and over a smooth surface it would undoubtedly be a better and quicker drive however please correct me if I’m wrong but a more softly sprung car with narrower track and tyres would be more involving and suited to the average road here in the UK.
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don’t get me wrong I think the 22b is a fine car and easily the best looking Impreza and over a smooth surface it would undoubtedly be a better and quicker drive however please correct me if I’m wrong but a more softly sprung car with narrower track and tyres would be more involving and suited to the average road here in the UK. Pete
14 July 2004, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigH
What a pile of **** some people spout.
A 911 GT3/2, 996tt etc may be a lot faster everywhere than an early 70s 2.7RS, but to most in "the know" the 2.7RS is The Ultimate.
Just because something is more modern, has more toys and is faster, doesn't make it the ultimate. All it does is pander to people who know no better.
A 911 GT3/2, 996tt etc may be a lot faster everywhere than an early 70s 2.7RS, but to most in "the know" the 2.7RS is The Ultimate.
Just because something is more modern, has more toys and is faster, doesn't make it the ultimate. All it does is pander to people who know no better.
all right craig h calm down boy i have just bought myself a right tidy spec c from litchfields and to me and many many more old boy it is the ultimate!!!!!!!!! get over it! 
14 July 2004, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fidgit
I am having this discussion with a friend.
So which is the ultimate scooby? the P1 or the 22B??
So which is the ultimate scooby? the P1 or the 22B??
14 July 2004, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DreXeL
I thought we already got to the bottom of this on UJCC
14 July 2004, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gatty
yeah i agree .......... for the old skool, a legend yes, but we are moving on now . Not taking anything away from the 22b.
-ppp, and had the sti -ppp now have the 
22b Chris.
Ps and it's not dropped 5k in the last five min, like my other two did
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14 July 2004, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by (R-6)
Had the wrx -ppp, and had the sti -ppp now have the 22b
Chris.
Ps and it's not dropped 5k in the last five min, like my other two did .
-ppp, and had the sti -ppp now have the 22b Chris.
Ps and it's not dropped 5k in the last five min, like my other two did
.good point old timer
14 July 2004, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete
however please correct me if I’m wrong but a more softly sprung car with narrower track and tyres would be more involving and suited to the average road here in the UK.
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14 July 2004, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gatty
hey drexel how are you i met you at powerstation you were in a green wrx i was buying that white spec c. there was a shoot out going on
14 July 2004, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DreXeL
Hi mate how's it going?? Did you buy the spec c in the end??
yes bud never looked back, realy happy with it , its got history, the drummer from travis owned it first. Are you back up to powerstation again in the future? shootouts etc..
good set of lads there. Reccomend there sevices
15 July 2004, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gatty
yes bud never looked back, realy happy with it , its got history, the drummer from travis owned it first. Are you back up to powerstation again in the future? shootouts etc..
good set of lads there. Reccomend there sevices
good set of lads there. Reccomend there sevices
, glad your pleased with it, I'd love a Spec C.
15 July 2004, 08:20 PM
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I doubt the majority of people posting on this thread have driven a 22b or a P1. Having driven both I will say that the 22b is a fantastic car but you wouldnt want to drive it day to day, or very far for that matter. On UK roads it just aint right and wants to drive itself.
P1 , the ultimate impreza all day long.
Oh yeah, i do a own P1 so i may be a bit biased.
P1 , the ultimate impreza all day long.
Oh yeah, i do a own P1 so i may be a bit biased.
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15 July 2004, 09:16 PM
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Nowt wrong with 22B suspension IMHO, its the same as the STi4, and although a bit hard, its fine once you get used to it... P1 standard suspension is better suited to UK roads, but I think the journo's are being a bit picky on that one I think.
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15 July 2004, 09:58 PM
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Nothing against them per se , just the MAF sensors from that era are prone to failure and are probably the cause of a lot of engine failures. I've had a Maf go on my car after just 25K miles and there was a thread on here a while back, started by Puff, which pointed to a lot of similar failures causing the engine to progressively lean out until it either goes bang or defaults to the rich limp home mode. Some folks change the Maf sensor ( £75 a pop) at each service now to be sure.
16 July 2004, 01:18 AM
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22b, Why? made in 1997, its took 6 plus years to better it : i.e. spec c, and how much better is it?
More than happy to take on a spec c on the track (with the same power), think you will find that six years of development don’t mean that much in track terms.
The 22 is the ultimate scoob, you don’t have to be the fastest to be the best, the spec looks like a! Well any other sti! what looks like a 22?
How many 22B’s have you guy even seen, never mind been in?
The 22B was around £43’000 when new, if you could get one, sold out in 24 hours, 6’000 deposits taken on 423 cars.
Nuff said.
P1’s don’t carry that pedigree.
Spe –c “You aint got no soul!! (al piciono)
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More than happy to take on a spec c on the track (with the same power), think you will find that six years of development don’t mean that much in track terms.
The 22 is the ultimate scoob, you don’t have to be the fastest to be the best, the spec looks like a! Well any other sti! what looks like a 22?
How many 22B’s have you guy even seen, never mind been in?
The 22B was around £43’000 when new, if you could get one, sold out in 24 hours, 6’000 deposits taken on 423 cars.
Nuff said.
P1’s don’t carry that pedigree.
Spe –c “You aint got no soul!! (al piciono)
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16 July 2004, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
What a pile of crap is being circulated by people like Daz WRX above and on the other thread attached.
), just intended to show peeps opinions on P1 engines thats all. Though there does appear to be more bitchin bout P1 on here then the 22B but could be down to fewer peeps having a 22B or nothing to bitch about, who knows?