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Old 19 July 2004 | 03:56 PM
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I'm with Olly on this. It's been a long long time since I've been tailgated and I'm in the car on major roads m/ways everyday.
Old 19 July 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Henrik - are you doing massive mileages or something?? What kinds of roads are you driving on??

I am only doing 50 miles a day these days, either A road or M1 and it has been a long time since I had a tail gater. Certainly not had one this year that I can think of. And it isn't due to travelling at high speed either. The M1 between junc 25 and junc 23 is rather busy and your lucky if you can maintain 70 for very long, and again the A roads I use are busy with very few overtaking places.
Regarding the often thing. OK - It isn't often and I wrote that incorrectly. Once every week or two ish. Sometimes not for 2 months then twice in a day etc etc. so, yes it is not often but when you type....you just type don't you.


Ollyk - Just an observation but you cripple my bollox for this but are nothing short of polite with the other guy that agrees with me. Have I annoyed you on previous threads or something??
Old 19 July 2004 | 03:58 PM
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If i want to get somebody off my bumper, i usually use a "calm down" gesture with my hand - that's always worked for me...
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Ollyk - Just an observation but you cripple my bollox for this but are nothing short of polite with the other guy that agrees with me. Have I annoyed you on previous threads or something??
I reckon he was stuck behind you when you were -2 under the limit
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
If i want to get somebody off my bumper, i usually use a "calm down" gesture with my hand - that's always worked for me...
That to!! Thing is that antogonises more than any brake lights. That is a person-to-person gesture which evokes the red mist on even the calmest of people.

Telling someone in a stress to 'calm down' is well funny.
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:01 PM
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I'll give you a typical example (this occured yesterday on a busy M25).

I was sitting in the inside (i.e. slow) lane behind an old white coach doing about 55mph up a hill.

Behind me was a blue Peugeot 405 with a covered trailer, and he had been sitting behind me about 5 minutes (not tailgating at this point).

When lane 2 was finally clear, I indicated to go out to lane 2 to overtake the coach, and the peugeot followed me. Now, for some bizarre reason, he thought it was a good idea to start tail gating me. He was litterally sitting one foot of my bumper while we overtook the coach and then proceeded to overtake the lorry that was in front of the coach.

I see no reason why he would have started tail gating at that point, except that he probably wanted to intimidate the stupid looking Smart in front. This time I didn't actually dab the brakes, but dropped it down one gear and left him for dead (yes, in a smart ) Had there been less traffic, I definitely would have dabbed the brakes.


Another example, I was going from Croydon towards Lewisham, and I was doing about 34-35 in a 30 (so not going slower than anyone else), and this boy racer in his peugeot 206 comes flying right up behind me, again sitting one meter away from the bumper. There was traffic in front of me, so I couldn't exactly go any faster, so instead I slowed down a bit to increase the gap between myself and the car in front (and I took great pleasure in doing so). I dabbed my brakes too, and guess what? He stopped tail gating! Result!
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I reckon he was stuck behind you when you were -2 under the limit
There is that.

"WAS IT YOU"

Porsche 944 turbo?? Was it you??? Obiding the speed limit??

Old 19 July 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
I'll give you a typical example (this occured yesterday on a busy M25).

I was sitting in the inside (i.e. slow) lane behind an old white coach doing about 55mph up a hill.

Careful now, don't you mean "(i.e. correct lane)" ???

Inside lane is for driving, middle lane is for overtaking, outside lane is for flies that are attracted to ****.
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Originally Posted by ollyk
I don't think anybody is disputing that, tail gaters are a bloody menace, it is how you deal with them so as to minimise the risk of an accident involving yourself or others. Brake dabbing is not the best way to do it.
Blue strobes on the parcel shelf help (i'm pretty sure theres a legal issue there tho)

Letting them overtake and then leaving the good old piaa's on is also strangely satisfying and i'd imagine even more annoying for them.(here we go.... thats even more stupid blah blah blah blah.it is,but these people need to be treated with the same lack of respect they show everyone else on the road,maybe one day they will realise it's them and not everyone else who's in the wrong) rant rant rant blah blah blah
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Olly: Nah, I don't do massive mileage, maybe 16-17000 miles a year.

I think it's the cars I drive. E.g. when I'm in the Smart, people treat me worse than they treat me in any car I've ever driven. It's like people look at the Smart and see that it's dinky sized and decide to take liberties (try to cut me up etc) wherever I go. It's gotten so bad that I actually have to drive more agressively in the Smart to get anywhere at all (It's up for sale, can't wait until it's gone (for this very reason, other than that it's a great car!)). Believe me, it's scary when huge ****ers of land rovers etc sit one inch off your bumper and you're in a Smart

When I'm out in the scooby, some people tend to sit right up my bumper as well, but I think this is because they want to see me boot it or something.

It usually happens when driving in town, to be honest, although when it happens on the motorways, it's a lot more scary.
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Senior_AP: Ah, you're right on that one, of course

As a side note, I'm not a middle lane surfer
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
That to!! Thing is that antogonises more than any brake lights. That is a person-to-person gesture which evokes the red mist on even the calmest of people.

Telling someone in a stress to 'calm down' is well funny.

Whereas to me, braking (or your method of activating the brake lights) is just indicating that you have NO intention of moving over, whatever happens. *That* infuriates *me* more than anything!!

But then i don't get close to people unless it's obvious (to me) that they are able to move across safely to let me pass...
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by henrik
Believe me, it's scary when huge ****ers of land rovers etc sit one inch off your bumper and you're in a Smart
maybe they think you like a*se action,it is a smart car after all











only a joke
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
I don't think anybody is disputing that, tail gaters are a bloody menace, it is how you deal with them so as to minimise the risk of an accident involving yourself or others. Brake dabbing is not the best way to do it.
I'm sorry if you have already posted this (I tried looking but couldn't find), but what should you do instead?

(I'm not taking the ****, I just can't find your suggestions )
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
Senior_AP: Ah, you're right on that one, of course

As a side note, I'm not a middle lane surfer

People on here will jump on that!! Just say quickly...."I meany correct lane".



I thought I'd save you from the influx of imminent abuse.
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Lol - I like the blue light idea

It's all down to bloody cameras again. Virtually no traffic police about, about the only thing you will get done for is speeding by a camera, anything else goes.
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by henrik
I'm sorry if you have already posted this (I tried looking but couldn't find), but what should you do instead?
Cry and wet your pants i think is the general opinion here
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5 Paul
maybe they think you like a*se action,it is a smart car after all





only a joke

Oh, Oh, Oh!! And i'm a Swedish blonde as well!! With big **** too, now that I stopped going to the gym for a few years

I do get some funny looks when out in the Smart sometimes
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Whereas to me, braking (or your method of activating the brake lights) is just indicating that you have NO intention of moving over, whatever happens. *That* infuriates *me* more than anything!!

But then i don't get close to people unless it's obvious (to me) that they are able to move across safely to let me pass...

Can't always move over, and if I'm doing appropriate speed I shouldn't have to.

I hate tailgaters, and bad lane discipline, and anchovies.

I wasn't knocking you about the hand gesture - its a good one however I'd rarely use that, I would tend to use that more if I started to get heated. again - its winds people up soooo good!! ....and it serves them right.
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:15 PM
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big **** rule
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:15 PM
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when I'm in the Smart, people treat me worse than they treat me in any car I've ever driven.
<devil's advocate>Trouble is with those is they radiate the 'fashion victim saddo' image that puts you in the same league as those baggy trousered, skateboarding, spikey haired lamers that infest our town centres. i.e. deserving of no respect whatsoever!!</devil's advocate>

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Originally Posted by unclebuck
<devil's advocate>Trouble is with those is they radiate the 'fashion victim saddo' image that puts you in the same league as those baggy trousered, skateboarding, spikey haired lamers that infest our town centres. i.e. deserving of no respect whatsoever!!</devil's advocate>
think i covered all that withh a*se action
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Lol - I like the blue light idea

It's all down to bloody cameras again. Virtually no traffic police about, about the only thing you will get done for is speeding by a camera, anything else goes.

I think we've found common ground. Cameras catch unsuspecting motorists. Bad drivers can get away with anything as long as their bad driving is within what is considered acceptable speeds.
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Originally Posted by RB5 Paul
think i covered all that withh a*se action
yea - I was still typing as that was posted.

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UB: I agree to some extent , but it's actually a great car

It's more fun to drive than the Subaru, and it returns 47mpg when not driven sensibly
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yay,a conclusion we can all agree on lol
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Scoobynet in 'everyone agrees' shocker
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:18 PM
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"Only a fool breaks the 2 second rule".
Old 19 July 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by senior_ap
I think we've found common ground. Cameras catch unsuspecting motorists. Bad drivers can get away with anything as long as their bad driving is within what is considered acceptable speeds.
I meant that bit,not the smart car bit (although they are a bit gay)
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Might as well pack up and go home now


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