The Scottish B&B that turfed out the two gay people...?
20 July 2004, 07:47 PM
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...because they obviously shout louder. If you want something, shout.
20 July 2004, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
Why? The same law could have been passed for all non married couples, not just homosexuals.
Not right, I know.
20 July 2004, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
Why? The same law could have been passed for all non married couples, not just homosexuals.
non married heterosexuals have the option to *get* married. non married homosexuals don't.
plus we should be glad that there's loads of homos. the more homos, the less kids, the less kids, the less population growth, the less population growth, the further away we are from global catastrophe.
20 July 2004, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
...but the point is, you're focussing in on only a part of that's humans life.
Would you like it if you had 2 fingers missing and people automatically classed you as not "normal" in all aspects of your life?
Would you like it if you had 2 fingers missing and people automatically classed you as not "normal" in all aspects of your life?
This discussion will go on forever. I consider that men and womens genitali is designed like it is for a reason.
I consider homosexuality totally abnormal, but again - not a bad thing.
20 July 2004, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mj
the disabled are not "normal"
if you do something that is away from the norm,you are not "normal" , doesnt make you any less of a person, just different.
if you do something that is away from the norm,you are not "normal" , doesnt make you any less of a person, just different.
Who mentioned disabled as being not normal. I didn't. I mentioned them in the context of laws protecting minorities.
Chip.
Edited to say I may think different if they were gay disabled.
20 July 2004, 08:25 PM
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non married heterosexuals have the option to *get* married. non married homosexuals don't.
20 July 2004, 08:25 PM
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chip, imlach suggested that if we consider homosexuallty not "normal" then do we also consider the disabled in the same way.
apology accepted
apology accepted
20 July 2004, 08:30 PM
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All I'm saying Charlie is that I dont consider marriage a 'choice', I'd rather choose to jump off a cliff ffs. I 'should' have the same rights atm as any other 'non married' (gay) couple, who shudder the thought, perhaps dont even want to get married themselves.
Glass raised btw
Glass raised btw
20 July 2004, 08:31 PM
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I really had to shake my head at some of the post on here.
I have a very good friend who "Came Out" a few years ogo at the age of 32 after a failed marraige. He now lives with a 25 year old bloke.
I get on well with them both and dont have any problem with their relationship.
Me and my wife have even been out with them on the Gay scene and to be honest it's a brilliant night out with none of the aggressive yob culture you get in "Normal" city centre pubs and clubs. I was also suprised at the amount of straight people that socialise at gay pubs/clubs.
If I had a B&B I would much rather a Gay couple came to stay than a Chav family that's likly to half wreck the place.
Cheers
Lee
I have a very good friend who "Came Out" a few years ogo at the age of 32 after a failed marraige. He now lives with a 25 year old bloke.
I get on well with them both and dont have any problem with their relationship.
Me and my wife have even been out with them on the Gay scene and to be honest it's a brilliant night out with none of the aggressive yob culture you get in "Normal" city centre pubs and clubs. I was also suprised at the amount of straight people that socialise at gay pubs/clubs.
If I had a B&B I would much rather a Gay couple came to stay than a Chav family that's likly to half wreck the place.
Cheers
Lee
20 July 2004, 08:33 PM
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Jye,
Do you think kids grow up better in a stable married family background. Or are you one of a very, very small minority of ppl that think it's OK for homosexual couples to adopt children.
Chip.
Do you think kids grow up better in a stable married family background. Or are you one of a very, very small minority of ppl that think it's OK for homosexual couples to adopt children.
Chip.
20 July 2004, 08:36 PM
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Chip, dunno where you're coming from here, I'm not really interested in the rights of homosexuals when I have none myself. FWIW non married hetrosexuals cant adopt m8, I should know I've tried.
20 July 2004, 08:42 PM
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Legal rights such as who gets my house if I die chip, I never said anything about adopting kids btw, only you mentioned that, for whatever reason. Right now my brother, who I detest, has as much a right to share my estate as my partner. BTW, I know I cant adopt my partners kid, been there done it. Will I be a better father if I marry her? Get real m8.
20 July 2004, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
Me and my wife have even been out with them on the Gay scene and to be honest it's a brilliant night out with none of the aggressive yob culture you get in "Normal" city centre pubs and clubs. I was also suprised at the amount of straight people that socialise at gay pubs/clubs.
). These bars really are much more fun than ordinary bars. 
Originally Posted by logiclee
If I had a B&B I would much rather a Gay couple came to stay than a Chav family that's likly to half wreck the place.
20 July 2004, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
Chip, I take it you believe in the sanctity of marriage btw, lol
I can see for some that, in the near future, it may be more acceptable for two blokes to be knobbing each other than a straight, married couple co-habiting.
This has strayed slightly from the point.
It's the guy's own house and if he doesn't want two queers in his house then he should be allowed the choice
20 July 2004, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
Legal rights such as who gets my house if I die chip, I never said anything about adopting kids btw, only you mentioned that, for whatever reason. Right now my brother, who I detest, has as much a right to share my estate as my partner. BTW, I know I cant adopt my partners kid, been there done it. Will I be a better father if I marry her? Get real m8.
As for your estate then draw up a will as do most people including me as a wife/husband is only entitled to 50% of your estate on death anyway.
Chip.
20 July 2004, 08:57 PM
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Chip, In my book yes. I dont believe in it, simple. And why the hell should I? Im even part a growing trend. It's worthless anyhow with quicky divorces and pre-nuptial contracts.
Please tell me what it presently affords people?
I've been with my partner for over 15 years through thick and thin, I've seen loads of m8's go through divorces over the years. What use is marriage to anyone apart from the religious clap trap and baggage that goes with it in many cases. A house and mortgage holds you together more than the 'm' word ffs.
Most folk I know head for the registry office, and wham bam thank you mam, big deal, it means nothing to me. Perhaps you are one of the few who can justify its deminishing popularity for reasons other than its present legal worth.
As far as the legal guff is concerned this has has now been changed for gays, why not for me?
Please tell me what it presently affords people?
I've been with my partner for over 15 years through thick and thin, I've seen loads of m8's go through divorces over the years. What use is marriage to anyone apart from the religious clap trap and baggage that goes with it in many cases. A house and mortgage holds you together more than the 'm' word ffs.
Most folk I know head for the registry office, and wham bam thank you mam, big deal, it means nothing to me. Perhaps you are one of the few who can justify its deminishing popularity for reasons other than its present legal worth.
As far as the legal guff is concerned this has has now been changed for gays, why not for me?
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20 July 2004, 09:00 PM
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As for your estate then draw up a will as do most people including me as a wife/husband is only entitled to 50% of your estate on death anyway.
20 July 2004, 09:02 PM
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Jye,
I don't think anyone would dispute that non-married couples (hetro or gay) should have the same legal & financial rights as married couples do.
It's just that the laws are not in place to support this yet.
I don't think anyone would dispute that non-married couples (hetro or gay) should have the same legal & financial rights as married couples do.
It's just that the laws are not in place to support this yet.