The divisevness of human nature
21 July 2004, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
NO BOLLOX - You're starting to sound like Zippy 
21 July 2004, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
That's the spirit. Engage in argument and be enlightened.... or shown up, whichever occurs sooner!
.What happened to DBW - I asked her a question and she's gone all quiet
.Maybe She's a Hari Krishna devotee rather than Jehova
21 July 2004, 04:02 PM
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Back to the original question- Does anybody round here live and let live?
Yup. But only towards things I'm tolerant of.
The things I don't like I speak out about, much as you do, doesn't make any of us "bad people" just different.
T.G.
Yup. But only towards things I'm tolerant of.
The things I don't like I speak out about, much as you do, doesn't make any of us "bad people" just different.
T.G.
21 July 2004, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
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LOL, oh *please* tell me there's a smiley or two missing here. PLEASE!!!
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21 July 2004, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
ditto
Please tell me you don't really believe what you've just written.
tiggers.
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21 July 2004, 04:11 PM
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Moose, either you're gay and it was written with a "touch" of sarcasm or if you truly believe that then I would seek help.
T.G.
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21 July 2004, 04:16 PM
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Do I REALLY have to point out that my entirely ironic post was in response to the Neanderthal nature of Jasey's Daily Mail-esque ramblings?
Oh, I see I do!
(Bear in mind I simply don't use emoticons)
Oh, I see I do!
(Bear in mind I simply don't use emoticons)
21 July 2004, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Guv'nor
Moose, either you're gay and it was written with a "touch" of sarcasm or if you truly believe that then I would seek help.
T.G.
T.G.
21 July 2004, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
I'm not gay, but a couple of very good friends are, and I'm incensed that idiots still persist with equating homosexuality with illness, or comparing it to child abuse. Clearly trying to point out to a homophobe the stupidity of his stance by using his own extreme language is fighting a losing battle ..... some people wouldn't recognise irony if it smacked them in the face.
Cheers,
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21 July 2004, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
I'm not gay, but a couple of very good friends are, and I'm incensed that idiots still persist with equating homosexuality with illness, or comparing it to child abuse. Clearly trying to point out to a homophobe the stupidity of his stance by using his own extreme language is fighting a losing battle ..... some people wouldn't recognise irony if it smacked them in the face.
T.G.
21 July 2004, 04:25 PM
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Do some of you really think that sex between two consenting males or females is on the same level as the rape of a child?
Why should child molestors even enter the thread?
FFS, no wonder there has to be laws to protect minorities.
Why should child molestors even enter the thread?
FFS, no wonder there has to be laws to protect minorities.
21 July 2004, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Hey moose, chill out. Sorry, but in light of recent posts in this very forum surely we can be forgiven for maybe thinking you were serious. Please accept my aplogies and I agree with your sentiments entirely hence my original worry.
Cheers,
tiggers.
Cheers,
tiggers.
A married couple may or may not engage in, let us say, backdoor action. No-one gives a stuff - it's their business etc. Two men do EXACTLY THE SAME THING and suddenly it's so terrible?
Sometimes I feel that there's been no progress in the last century, that attitudes are every bit as diseased as ever they were.
Typical examples: Immigrants ... ooh, they're all evil, out to get your jobs and money. Gays ... they're trying to pervert your children. Government .... they want to give away every bit of heritage to Europe.
(For the avoidance of doubt, there IS ironic content above.)
21 July 2004, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Not you (or Tel) I'm having a got at - just angry that people are treated differently because of what they may or may not do between the sheets.
A married couple may or may not engage in, let us say, backdoor action. No-one gives a stuff - it's their business etc. Two men do EXACTLY THE SAME THING and suddenly it's so terrible?
Sometimes I feel that there's been no progress in the last century, that attitudes are every bit as diseased as ever they were.
Typical examples: Immigrants ... ooh, they're all evil, out to get your jobs and money. Gays ... they're trying to pervert your children. Government .... they want to give away every bit of heritage to Europe.
(For the avoidance of doubt, there IS ironic content above.)
A married couple may or may not engage in, let us say, backdoor action. No-one gives a stuff - it's their business etc. Two men do EXACTLY THE SAME THING and suddenly it's so terrible?
Sometimes I feel that there's been no progress in the last century, that attitudes are every bit as diseased as ever they were.
Typical examples: Immigrants ... ooh, they're all evil, out to get your jobs and money. Gays ... they're trying to pervert your children. Government .... they want to give away every bit of heritage to Europe.
(For the avoidance of doubt, there IS ironic content above.)
tiggers.
Cheers,
21 July 2004, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
I'm not gay, but a couple of very good friends are, and I'm incensed that idiots still persist with equating homosexuality with illness, or comparing it to child abuse. Clearly trying to point out to a homophobe the stupidity of his stance by using his own extreme language is fighting a losing battle ..... some people wouldn't recognise irony if it smacked them in the face.
If you read my posts you will see that my stance is basically - Gays can do what they want provided they don't seek my approval but Child Molestors should be strung up.
As stated before I really couldn't give a **** what they get up to (Gays) but why should I have to accept their behaviour as normal ?
Convince me
21 July 2004, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
Who's comparing being Gay with Child Abuse or saying they are ill ?
If you read my posts you will see that my stance is basically - Gays can do what they want provided they don't seek my approval but Child Molestors should be strung up.
As stated before I really couldn't give a **** what they get up to (Gays) but why should I have to accept their behaviour as normal ?
Convince me
If you read my posts you will see that my stance is basically - Gays can do what they want provided they don't seek my approval but Child Molestors should be strung up.
As stated before I really couldn't give a **** what they get up to (Gays) but why should I have to accept their behaviour as normal ?
Convince me
21 July 2004, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
So why mention child molesters at all? What possible connection can you see between child abuse and one's sexuality?
I wasn't comparing them !
The point I'm trying to make to the Tree huggers etc. is that You can Live and Let live but it has to work both ways. I can accept that Gays can do what they want but some one here can't accept that I can hold an opinion that what they do is not Normal !
Looks like DBW was right !
21 July 2004, 05:42 PM
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I posted something similar to jasey about this on post 20.
I don't like gay men, so what? I'm entitled to not like them or approve of what they do.
I don't like kiddy fiddlers. Would I be demonised for that? I doubt it.
Up until about 35 years ago gay sex was illegal, maybe in another 35 years it might be legal to f*ck kids, I hope not but you never know.
I would still dislike kiddy fiddlers.
I think the point is we can approve/disapprove of who/what we like, nobody has the right to make us like something/somebody.
Although the PC brigade will jump up and down saying how monstrous "normal" people are for not accepting, in our opinion, disgusting behaviour.
F*ck 'em. My life, my beliefs, deal with it.
T.G.
I don't like gay men, so what? I'm entitled to not like them or approve of what they do.
I don't like kiddy fiddlers. Would I be demonised for that? I doubt it.
Up until about 35 years ago gay sex was illegal, maybe in another 35 years it might be legal to f*ck kids, I hope not but you never know.
I would still dislike kiddy fiddlers.
I think the point is we can approve/disapprove of who/what we like, nobody has the right to make us like something/somebody.
Although the PC brigade will jump up and down saying how monstrous "normal" people are for not accepting, in our opinion, disgusting behaviour.
F*ck 'em. My life, my beliefs, deal with it.
T.G.
21 July 2004, 05:45 PM
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Hey, take off the rose tinted shades and take a look at the reality of what you promote as 'normal' and 'acceptable'
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346601
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346601
21 July 2004, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Hey, take off the rose tinted shades and take a look at the reality of what you promote as 'normal' and 'acceptable'
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346601
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346601
There are Hetro couples into *******, bestiality, pedo's, bondage, sadomas, swinging etc.
So all hetro couples except this, dont find it disgusting and enjoy it do they?
Most gay people would be straight on the phone to the police if they came across the above activity.
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21 July 2004, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
There are Hetro couples into *******, bestiality, pedo's, bondage, sadomas, swinging etc.
So all hetro couples except this, dont find it disgusting and enjoy it do they?
Most gay people would be straight on the phone to the police if they came across the above activity.
Lee
21 July 2004, 06:06 PM
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UB - for one thing, i would put money on a significant number of the men observed "cottaging" being married, "respectable" men. might be someone that you work with. might be someone in your family. you'll probably never know who the "disgusting" "abnormal" people really are - so why not stop getting so uptight about it?
21 July 2004, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Where does your evidence for :"Most gay people would be straight on the phone to the police" come from?
Seems to me that the opposite is the case.
Cheers
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21 July 2004, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
No but some do. Some even post on here (naming no names) are they disgusting devients then?
21 July 2004, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
My best mate is Gay so I often socialise within the gay community and know loads of gay couples. I know what shocks them, their views and their morals.
From what personal experience other than what you read?
Cheers
Lee
From what personal experience other than what you read?
Cheers
Lee
Oh, and then there was the gay bloke I used to know that slept with wealthy old men for money.... the list goes on.
Anyway I giving up on this topic as there has been far too much politically correct, hypocritical claptrap talked on the subject already.