Jim_B

iTrader: (1)

Still dont mention which model Impreza you have. If you want to get rid of the understeer [ assuming your car is still standard ] then its not expensive. A 22mm Adjustable rear ARB and some solid drop links will drastically improve the car and only cost you about £150. Cheaper than changing cars. If thats still not enough of a change then a set of different springs [ Eibachs or similar ] and a 4 wheel alignment should complete the changes.

NotoriousREV

I don't need to read reports, I drive one every day. Yes, when pushed they understeer, it's the way they're designed to let go as it's considered safer than oversteer, however, unless something is wrong with your particular car, the speed you are doing when your Impreza starts to understeer is going to much higher than it is in, say, a Mini Cooper S or even a Civic Type R. I have driven a well modded Cooper S and while it was fun, the handling was certainly no better than an Impreza and it also understeered.

I don't know what model of Impreza you have, but I have a MY93 WRX with a large and laggy TD05 and I have no problem getting it off the line quick. How on earth do you expect ANY car to manage a quick getaway with <3000 rpm? Yes, leisurely starts can see other cars gaining a foot or 2 on you, which quickly disappears when the turbo spools up.

I'm sorry, but I stand by my earlier statement; your driving style and the Impreza are clearly not working out and one of them has to change.

When you find a car that doesn't understeer, can do 0-60 in 4 seconds using less than 3000rpm and can go from Bradford to Glasgow and back on a tank while providing the grin factor of an Impreza, please let us know because I suspect a lot of other people will want one

Dark Blue Mark

Mate you're talking complete and utter ****. What car do you know, other than a TDI, that pulls under 3k rpm

And to say you're expecting more power from a cooper S and less understeer, well good luck to you.

Launching from the lights is a skill, you cant just drop the clutch and floor it.

MB

S.B.

Thats whats needed a bit of straight talking

zoog

My E55 AMG pulls well under 3000rpm.

I think his criticisms are valid to a degree. Clearly the car doesn't suit his driving style either. He should get a used Clio Cup 172 for £8500, that would fit the overall spec he desires.

bugeyes

I'm sorry but I dont agree that Impreza's are slow off the line or particularly bad understeer'ers. I've had 2 plus several hot hatches, Fiat Coupe Turbo etc etc and nothing hit 60 quicker or took the bends faster than my RB5 WRSport. I'm not what you would call a 'good' driver either, if anything the scoob flatters mediocre driving - I never lost it in either Impreza which I cant say for the Fiat and 1 or 2 others...

cheddar bob

If he doesn't like waiting till 3K revs for some power he's not gonna enjoy any high revving 16v motors, especially CTR/ITR

Sounds like a diesel is what he needs.

And as for wanting a car quicker off the lights than an Impreza there's nothing apart from kit cars or serious project cars for similar money that would be quicker, as the Impreza's main strenght is it's 4WD traction (0-30) So even a Mini Cooper S Works or Hartge wouldn't be better than even a standard UK turbo

Dark Blue Mark

I imagine an AMG merc would pull well from idle

No turbo car will though (without anti-lag), due to the inherent design, ie time the exhaust gas takes to build to drive the compressor. Superchargers are obviously better as they are crank driven.

MB

Kevin Mc

I'd also seriously consider an vRS Octy, or one of the VAG Diesels. I've got a PD130 Skoda Superb, and that shifts despite it's size and weight - it's no Impreza though I'd have thought any of the VAG diesels or 1.8 turbos would be easily chipped to give far more torque. Also well worth considering a Leon Cupra or Cupra R.

will13

Sounds like you need something with a pretty large cc if you want it to pull from hee-haw revs, cooper s doesn't pull harder till the engine really starts turning, maybe different with the works kit, sounds like you need something like a new shape S4 or an M3! If you really want something thats gonna pull a lot below 3000rpm, the only thing that comes to mind without spending a large dollop of cash is a TVR.

stu_5

The understeer can be sorted out easily and you'll not find anything front wheel drive which wont do so less, and at lower speeds in the first place to be brutally honest...

Still not yet said in any post reply what model impreza it is- you actually have one or just trolling???

Diesel will be the way to go for power at low rpm, any petrol turbo car will lag like like that before the turbo cuts in.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Do you actually drive a car?
No matter what you drive, most cars dont come into their own until half way up the rev range, so i see no difference in what your saying and ive driven many different cars
You say the car lags like a bitch?
use your gear box better
Understeer... 99% of all cars understeer, you can compensate by turning the wheel a little more it does actually work!
I like your last bit, definately a reason to buy an impreza
What you really need is a turbo diesel

Tony

Suhail

Thanks for all the kind comments, I return them in similar spirit.

The Impreza I have is an old style car. Use of gears will not make the car respond at low revs, seems like the kind of thing an idiot might suggest.
The idea of removing the understeer is a good one, otherwise I find that the tyres are going to wear on the outsides, as they already are.

The diesel idea is a good one, a BMW 330D with chip might be better, also drives rear wheels which as we can all know is the best way.

NotoriousREV

And it's confirmed: TROLL

Suhail

I don't understand that comment- nothing here is troll.
I Just find my Impreza more boring and impreactical than I thought. Want to get idea about something actually fun for driving.

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

So whats this about this next comment??

I believe the suggestion was to use the gears to keep the car on boost

Actually its possably your driving style, i take it you havnt had a turbo charged car before then?

Errrrm have you had the car checked for tracking?
It sounds like this could be a part of your problem!
The bumpsteer mod is your other option, but you still havnt stated which model of impreza or year it is?

Tony

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Ah, not always it depends where the engine is

Tony

kart_man

Add a wee bit extra and..... :

www.subaru.me.uk/gtr

cheddar bob

then you say

Understand the dear to run bit yet if you find your Impreza (and i'm guessing you have a saloon 4dr) impractical then unless you go for an estate, large saloon or executive size car then any performance coupe/hot hatch will NOT be for you.

Back to the fun factor TBH if you find it hard to rev to 3K to get some power then a turbo diesel is definately what you want although can't see it being more fun or involving than your Impreza (lots of torque and granted can be still be fast). Now imagine you get something like a 172, ITR, CTR, Elise - arguarbly much more involving and fun cars to drive but can you see yourself revving to 5-6k just to get in the power band, I think not.

dij

Have you actually been in another impreza or sat in the passenger seat whilst someone who knows the car well drives it?

The Impreza you have, probably has something wrong with it,at least the alignment must be out to get wear on the outer edge of the tyre.

Mark in Ireland

Quote.....Mate you're talking complete and utter ****. What car do you know, other than a TDI, that pulls under 3k rpm


........246ft lbs at 2000rpm....Saab 2.3T Carlsson...but it understeers badly when on full boost though

wide

Buy a DAF tractor unit they pull really well in low gears without a trailer attached

MooseRacer

Suhail - you complained about the abuse you got for driving an Imprezza.




For goodness' sake don't replace it with a 3 series then

mynickers

Impreza’s understeer can be tamed by new anti-roll bars from what I hear from some of my scoob-a-holics, lag shoudnt’ be a problems I you keep the rev’s up. I just been out in my friends 315bhp prodrive STI, I could feel it tring to understeer, but applying more power, and the torque seemed to make the front wheels bite and dig in! Didn’t get enough clear road to really test it though. It did lag, but only when it was below 3k revs, once I got that, I managed to keep the revs up and it was very, very quick.

I am surprised you’ve grown bored this quickly, they are a different driving experience, the friend mentioned above is starting to feel a bit bored with his for similar reasons, but he has always driven FWD/RWD, it is a different driving experience, and I would say gives it some time to get used to before you give up!

If not you really cannot go wrong with VTEC, and as someone has already mentioned Integra’s are a mightly good package. You can get a new one imported for £15k, as many a discussion in here will clarify they’re not stupidly expensive to insure despite the fact they’re only on import, and most Honda dealers will service them. I personally think they’re very good looking, and they have a button to start, which is obviously a major selling point!

Personally though, I think the DC2 is awesome, it’s a 1.8 too, so under the vtec you can actually get very reasonable economy, so I am told. Not sure though, because who the f**k would drive it sensibly – that’s just rude to all those Japanese engineers! I took one out of a testy recently, £13k, 27k on the clock, red pain, gun smoke 16” standard alloys!

One word: Awesome, and I rarely use that word. It might not be the quickest car on the road, but you just wouldn’t’ know or care driving it, the howl from the vtec is just breath taking, the power constantly gives you that feeling of being planted into the chair, and the chassis is out of this world for a FWD chassis. I lifted off around a large round about, and the rear gently started to drift, applying the go pedal made it promptly stand back in line - awesome! If you’ve never driven one, goto www.honda.co.uk, search second hand integra’s find the nearest one to you, and go and drive it, now - seriously! They’ve come down in price now too, you’ll get the above mentioned type spec for £10k! And of course they're well known for their tank like ability not to break.



If that doesn't float your boat, then I agree with what most of the others have said. THe deisel route from Seat or Skoda is one I would defo consider. But they'll never sound as good as a VTEC (or a scoob for that matter)!

emthreewannabee

Lol soon as I saw the title of this thread, I KNEW it would eventually end up with bitching galore. A guy posts saying hes bored of his impreza and its not long before he's been told that he cant drive, he needs to learn english blah blah! Whats the matter scooby owners? Devastated that someone thinks your car is boring? If he thinks that, then thats HIS choice. Even more unbelievable, there was yet another anti BMW comment in here somewhere! This in a thread about a guy who was dissatisfied with his impreza, who didn't even mention BMW!!!

This board never ceases to amaze, the mentality of some people......

NotoriousREV

Actually, if he'd said he is bored of his Impreza because it doesn't suit his driving style then fair enough, but to say it's slow and handles badly is incorrect, thats what we're defending.

And if you think BMW's are an evangelical driving experience, then you aren't qualified to even make a statement here. (genuine M series excepted)

MooseRacer

You need to learn to read. Thread starter posted saying he might consider a chipped 330d,so I think that probably constitutes mentioning BMWs.

And where'as the anti BMW post? I warned him about the abuse he'll get if he chooses one. Perhaps, with your limited literary skills, you meant that post?

emthreewannabee

Regardless.......if he thinks an impreza doesn't handle well, is slow then thats his opinion. He DOESNT deserve the abuse he got from people who had spit their dummy because someone was giving a negative view of an impreza.

I wont even answer the BMW thing, don't know where u have got that from?!

emthreewannabee

lol so i missed a statement? fact is, the only abuse he will get if he drives a BMW is from the lame Anti-BMW brigade who seem to live here.

emthreewannabee

Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
This is one of those posts where the original poster buggers off and never reads it

A little example of your lameness mr Moose.