+Doc+

If he earnt his money working in Jail then thats tax payers money ie. me and you, hmm if we keep it to ourselves how many scoobynettrs is there to share his winnings with!!??!! D

Leslie

Yes OllyK I had worked that one out, but I wanted to see if those who brought it up were able to justify the remark.

Les

gsm1

If he's allowed to buy a ticket then he's entitled to the winnings. What's the big deal?

OllyK

Looks like I have done the work for them

Freak

Exactly.

talizman

iTrader: (1)

I personally don't see this as the main issue.

The main problem is that folk cannot deal with the unfairness that is dished out in the world.

No doubt there will be some who don't believe that convicted criminals should not be allowed to partake in schemes like the lottery, but the logistics of it make it almost un-enforceable.

Its just a kick in the ribs to see a monster like him benefit when other's lives were ruined at his expense.

OllyK

Not sure if the vitims have sued this guy already or all the implications, but it would seem to me that if you were sued for say £5 million and you had sweet FA to your name, then that judgement should be in perpituity, i.e. if you win the lottery, then you have to pay out on the original judgement. It strikes me a lot of people get in to debt, declare themselves bankrupt and wipe the slate clean and thus shaft numerous other people in to the bargin. I appreciate their credit rating will be shot, but the real scum buckets seem to bounce back pretty quickly.

Tiggs

sometimes nice ppl get sick......ITS CALLED LIFE!

some ppl need to get on with their own!

tucker101uk

Look. I have been reading this thread all morning, and im gettin increasingly pi55ed off.

If they didnt want him to win, then they shouldnt have allowed him to buy the ticket in the first place. If you allow him the ticket, you also allow him the prize should he win. Therefore it would be unfair to remove it from him.

When he can spend it (when he is outside) he will have payed his debt to society, full stop. If he recommits then he'll go back inside and not be allowed to spend more than £2 a day again.... I dont get what the big deal is.

Tiggs

"Look. I have been reading this thread all morning"

you should be busy trying to get that Call on me vid!

tucker101uk

PMSL!!!!!

TelBoy

Exactly. Human nature. Nothing wrong with that.

M444GY

iTrader: (72)

always the good people that win just like that micheal carrol **** chav who won 9 mil.

jbryant

What next? Ban low-life crims from playing fruit machines in case they win the few quid in the jackpot?
Can't say that I see the difference. It's just a matter of scale, and size of the Daily Mail headlines.

Joolz

beemerboy

this bloke is sick.

have you seen some of the hair do's of this era??

let him spend his money.... he might die of alcohol poisoning or drug o/d.
he will be hounded by the gutter press and lead to leave a lonely life.

BB

+Doc+

Its not like he nicked a packet of crisps! If your mum was the victim would some of you feel the same?
If you have a previous criminal record of this magnitude they should not issue the funds.

Henrik

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You never know, he might have changed in all those years he spent in prison.

Also, he did the crime, and he served the time. I'm also pretty sure he hasn't had a good time in prison - aren't sex offenders generally the worst treated prisoners by their fellow inmates?

I understand that people think it's unfair that he wins all those millions, but as someone pointed out earlier, if he was allowed to partake he's allowed to keep the winnings also.

Doc: What type of crimes do you think should lead to a ban from the state lottery?

... but then i'm just a PC hippy anyway

Scumbag

But where do you draw the line....
Multiple rapist
Attempted murder
drink driving
housebreaking
failing to pay council tax
SP30
treading on the cracks in the pavement

What about someone who comes into an inheritance...surely the same should apply?

In the real world it has to be legislated for....not as easy as you think.

Faire D'Income

That's the whole problem with the Lotto's PR. We only get to hear about the muppets who **** it up the wall or are totally unsuited to large amounts of money. I'm sure there are winners out there who have handled it well and have no skeletons in their cupboards but they're the type of people who refuse any form of publicity. As for this bloke, I can't see what the problem is and why Disco Head needs to get involved is beyond me, other than political motivation.

MattW

The BBC are reporting that the culture secretary has stated the govt may intervene

TelBoy

LOL

Senior_AP

I know he bought his ticket just like anyone else, but do you not see a certain amount of justice if the raping **** gets nothing at all?? I kinda think it should go to charities or his victims...if they want it which I doubt some would.

Dracoro

The problem at the moment is that no-ones heard from the rapist himself. I'm not sure if he's aware of the publicity regarding his win. He may (if he's been rehabilitated and instilled with a sence of morals) donate cash of his own free will. Unlikely, but if he does intend to then all this talk of government intervention is unnecessary and time wasting. But then again, does our penal system rehabilitate offenders which is one of the things it's supposed to do (but that's a whole 'nother thread).

I suspect there's a large amount of publicity that the culture secretary wants A nice high profile case for her to 'win' and win some cheap popularity, and recognition in govt given that her standing isn't great at the moment

After all, if this was really a big long term issue then surely something should have been done by now. Why does it need a high profile case for anything to be done about it. It's a freak event too and stuff like this has been happening for donkeys years (on smaller scales of course!!)

Edcase

I have to say I think this is totally wrong and so does my partner, who's best friend was raped as a teenager. He did the crime, he did the time. He won the money fairly and squarely. There's nothing unjust about it at all.

7 years of a persons life is a lot to spend in a room being hated by society, he may have learnt his lesson, become a christian, who knows what.

Senior_AP

Yeah possibly. I dunno.

I wouldn't like to have to make a decision on this one though in my opinion still, someone like that should be revoked of any such privilege. If he moans I'd give him his quid back.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Its just I could see the money be put to a really good cause rather than in the pocket of a total arsehole irrrespective of whether he won it or not.

I see both points.

Its deffo a good thread with alot of good opinion eh!!

Nice one.

+Doc+

Where do we draw the line? Well lets start at murderers , rapist and peodos then see how we go.

OllyK

So we should stop all arseholes from winning? Who decides who qualifies? Or do you mean criminals and if so all criminals or just some?

OllyK

Let's just ban the Lottery full stop, it's a damn sight easier. Tax the poor a couple of quid extra a week to fund charities and other good causes.

Leslie

If he was allowed by the authorities to buy the ticket then they can't in all honesty take it off him. If it is a problem that he has won then they should not have allowed it in the first place.

Apparently when they visited him during his release time he had his suitcase packed ready to abscond very soon after it was announced!

They are saying that he can be sued certainly by his more recent rape victims for damages so with a bit of luck they will get the money from him anyway.

It certainly is sickening that a low life like him gets that kind of luck, but that's life! And certainly nothing to do with religion which does not promise everything in this life but only in the next life if you live as you should do.

That was the answer I wanted to give Olly.

Les

Senior_AP

No no. As I said, I could think of better ways it could be spent. Its an injustice but strictly speaking, he did win it fair and square. Its one of lifes ****ty outcomes when someone like that wins so much wonger.