Rapist wins 7 mill on the lotto!!!!!!!
12 August 2004, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
If he was allowed by the authorities to buy the ticket then they can't in all honesty take it off him. If it is a problem that he has won then they should not have allowed it in the first place.
Apparently when they visited him during his release time he had his suitcase packed ready to abscond very soon after it was announced!
They are saying that he can be sued certainly by his more recent rape victims for damages so with a bit of luck they will get the money from him anyway.
It certainly is sickening that a low life like him gets that kind of luck, but that's life! And certainly nothing to do with religion which does not promise everything in this life but only in the next life if you live as you should do.
That was the answer I wanted to give Olly.
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Apparently when they visited him during his release time he had his suitcase packed ready to abscond very soon after it was announced!
They are saying that he can be sued certainly by his more recent rape victims for damages so with a bit of luck they will get the money from him anyway.
It certainly is sickening that a low life like him gets that kind of luck, but that's life! And certainly nothing to do with religion which does not promise everything in this life but only in the next life if you live as you should do.
That was the answer I wanted to give Olly.
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I'm jetlagged, I was trying to write that. It came out odd.
I'll second that and hope he gets f$cking raped then mugged of the lot.
12 August 2004, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
No no. As I said, I could think of better ways it could be spent. Its an injustice but strictly speaking, he did win it fair and square. Its one of lifes ****ty outcomes when someone like that wins so much wonger.
I get grumpy every weekend when somebody else other than me wins the lottery...
...mind you I would probably have more of a case if I had bought a ticket
12 August 2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
I'm jetlagged, I was trying to write that. It came out odd.
I'll second that and hope he gets f$cking raped then mugged of the lot.
I'll second that and hope he gets f$cking raped then mugged of the lot.
now that makes really good sense, give the money to somebody who has comitted even worse crimes 
12 August 2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
I think in part it is a jealousy thing - why did they win and not me? And when the person winning is seen as being a nasty person it just makes it worse.
I get grumpy every weekend when somebody else other than me wins the lottery...
...mind you I would probably have more of a case if I had bought a ticket
I get grumpy every weekend when somebody else other than me wins the lottery...
...mind you I would probably have more of a case if I had bought a ticket
Hmm, I don't get "angry jealous" when people win the lottry...just known rapists. Its a part of life. Not ideal but has happened. In the ideal world, he'll get raped, mugged of his cash. But it isn't, is it.
12 August 2004, 05:05 PM
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Just think of the reaction if Maxine Carr had won,i'm sure she plays,are MP's going to ban her,or wait till she wins for another knee jerk reaction.
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12 August 2004, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Hmm, I don't get "angry jealous" when people win the lottry...just known rapists. Its a part of life. Not ideal but has happened. In the ideal world, he'll get raped, mugged of his cash. But it isn't, is it.
12 August 2004, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Just think of the reaction if Maxine Carr had won,i'm sure she plays,are MP's going to ban her,or wait till she wins for another knee jerk reaction.
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12 August 2004, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Think I covered this the last time you said it. I'd rather he donated it, or lost the cheque than we have somebody else going about that is guilty of even worse crimes than the first guy
That is the anger bit coming out.
Its one of those things eh Olly, we, us and I will just have to accept it. Bit like that other loser that won the lottery....the King Chav bloke.
12 August 2004, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
That is the anger bit coming out.
Its one of those things eh Olly, we, us and I will just have to accept it. Bit like that other loser that won the lottery....the King Chav bloke.
Its one of those things eh Olly, we, us and I will just have to accept it. Bit like that other loser that won the lottery....the King Chav bloke.
Seriously though, I would rather he hadn't won, but I don't think we need to be creating new laws becuase of it. As others have said, those who ought to benefit (his victims) can still sue him. If he hadn't won they wouldn't even be able to do that, clouds and silver linings??
12 August 2004, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Agreed - again, damn that's 2 threads. Have to get back on to tailgating again
Seriously though, I would rather he hadn't won, but I don't think we need to be creating new laws becuase of it. As others have said, those who ought to benefit (his victims) can still sue him. If he hadn't won they wouldn't even be able to do that, clouds and silver linings??
Seriously though, I would rather he hadn't won, but I don't think we need to be creating new laws becuase of it. As others have said, those who ought to benefit (his victims) can still sue him. If he hadn't won they wouldn't even be able to do that, clouds and silver linings??
Yep, (3 lol).
Victims can hopefully get something out of it, some sort of re-compense, insignificant on the grand scheme of things but still - its something. Hopefully he'll lose it at the bookies AFTER the victims have sued his **** to crap.
12 August 2004, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Ahh but she is actually out of prison having completed her sentence, this guy was on day release and is still serving
12 August 2004, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Does that make a difference?It seems the who-ha is more about the "sort" of person that wins it imo.
12 August 2004, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Yep, (3 lol).
Victims can hopefully get something out of it, some sort of re-compense, insignificant on the grand scheme of things but still - its something. Hopefully he'll lose it at the bookies AFTER the victims have sued his **** to crap.
Victims can hopefully get something out of it, some sort of re-compense, insignificant on the grand scheme of things but still - its something. Hopefully he'll lose it at the bookies AFTER the victims have sued his **** to crap.
12 August 2004, 05:28 PM
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I think the 7 million should go to Give An Abdabz A Chance charideee (or GAAAAAAAAAAAAC)....
Send to Abdabz, c/o his mum, St Helens. Thankyou.
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Send to Abdabz, c/o his mum, St Helens. Thankyou.
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12 August 2004, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Hmmm I'm wandering off topic a touch here, but that does kind of beg another question. Is money really any compensation at all? I am just trying to think, if I had been mugged or such like, would a cash hand out compensate me in any way. I suppose it may fund some counselling or may cover the cost of additional private medical bills, but other than it just allows me to improve my material position in the world. I can't think of anything that would compensate to be honest, even revenge would be somewhat hollow, so is it worth trying??
In a way i guess at the moment all this who-ha isnt doing them any favours.
Sad really.
12 August 2004, 05:41 PM
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Nope I expect the press will hound him when he gets out (back to the Maxine Carr thread we had a while back). I expect he will jump the country to be honest.
12 August 2004, 05:43 PM
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I thought there was a limit to the amount of time between an offence, and when you could claim damages from someone (6 years??????)
Unfortunately his offences were longer ago than that, so they wont get anything
Unfortunately his offences were longer ago than that, so they wont get anything
12 August 2004, 06:19 PM
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Does anyone else get worried when the Government starts on about changing laws that affect 60 million people because of just 1 person? Where will it end? Personally I don't think anyone who isn't me should win the lottery, but I doubt I'll get that passed even though it causes outrage (in my house at least) every week.
Life is unfair, get over it and get on with it
Life is unfair, get over it and get on with it
13 August 2004, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
Even if he wants to go to another country, his criminal record will make it difficult. Assuming HM Govt give him his passport back.
13 August 2004, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Hmmm I'm wandering off topic a touch here, but that does kind of beg another question. Is money really any compensation at all? I am just trying to think, if I had been mugged or such like, would a cash hand out compensate me in any way. I suppose it may fund some counselling or may cover the cost of additional private medical bills, but other than it just allows me to improve my material position in the world. I can't think of anything that would compensate to be honest, even revenge would be somewhat hollow, so is it worth trying??
After listening to Radio about this last night I have formed 2 opinions:
1. He should get the money - he played, he won.
2. inmates however, should (by introduction of law) not be allowed to participate in a National Lottery. They are not in society thus should not participate in such events. Preventing a (unlikely) re-occurence of this contentious issue.
13 August 2004, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
In a previous post I questioned whether the money would even be wanted by the victims - it could be coinsidered dirty money (or something like that).
After listening to Radio about this last night I have formed 2 opinions:
1. He should get the money - he played, he won.
2. inmates however, should (by introduction of law) not be allowed to participate in a National Lottery. They are not in society thus should not participate in such events. Preventing a (unlikely) re-occurence of this contentious issue.
After listening to Radio about this last night I have formed 2 opinions:
1. He should get the money - he played, he won.
2. inmates however, should (by introduction of law) not be allowed to participate in a National Lottery. They are not in society thus should not participate in such events. Preventing a (unlikely) re-occurence of this contentious issue.
13 August 2004, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The problem is point 2. If they are locked up 24/7 then fine, but when they are out on day release, that is going to be very hard to enforce. You also have the situation that they could buy the ticket and win. Knowing they are due for release soon they keep quiet and then claim the winnings when they have been released, or give the ticket to a friend or family member to claim for them.
They would not be allowed to claim if released. However if a family or friend claimed on their behalf there is nothing anyone can do really.
Sucks doesn't it.
I just hope it doesn't happen again and "nice" people win....like me.
13 August 2004, 08:48 AM
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I hope the day the bastid is released he gets run over by a 38 ton truck whilst crossing the road, the scum bag.
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