California annuls gay marriages.
13 August 2004, 03:10 PM
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It was tongue in cheek (erm..) and it contained a smiley.
It's what happens when discussions heats up.
It was wrong, so I said so, even though we are in the same "camp" (oh dear LOL
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It's what happens when discussions heats up.
It was wrong, so I said so, even though we are in the same "camp" (oh dear LOL
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13 August 2004, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Puh-leeze? I think Tiggs is made of much stronger stuff.
And anyway, aren't you one of the "let's have things as they used to be" brigade? Surely you don't approve of running off to teacher because the big boy said something bad? I mean, that sort of thing's ruining Britain, it's a bloody cesspool, no respect, were't like this when I were a lad etc etc
And anyway, aren't you one of the "let's have things as they used to be" brigade? Surely you don't approve of running off to teacher because the big boy said something bad? I mean, that sort of thing's ruining Britain, it's a bloody cesspool, no respect, were't like this when I were a lad etc etc
I'm sure he is (made of much stronger stuff) but we are not children and comments like that should not be tolerated on a site which is here for purposes of fun and chat.
13 August 2004, 03:11 PM
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[QUOTE=16vmarc]
lol
Thats more like it!!
Originally Posted by TelBoy
Haven't we done the whole homosexual parenting thing before??
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Speak for yourself, but ive never been a gay parent
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Speak for yourself, but ive never been a gay parent
Thats more like it!!
13 August 2004, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Haven't we done the whole homosexual parenting thing before??
Didn't we basically conclude that apart from the stigma of the situation, in terms of the kid's welfare at school or whatever, there wasn't a lot else to either recommend or discourage same-sex parenting (apart from believing those in favour of it were being "pc")? Or is there something new in the equation here?
Didn't we basically conclude that apart from the stigma of the situation, in terms of the kid's welfare at school or whatever, there wasn't a lot else to either recommend or discourage same-sex parenting (apart from believing those in favour of it were being "pc")? Or is there something new in the equation here?
Oh, and clearly I'm a PC, ruining-the-country sort of person, that goes without saying.
13 August 2004, 03:12 PM
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Telboy, no, nothing new.
Or maybe there is: there is confusion about whether it's just about the bullying, or whether the "abnormal" part plays a bigger role for people than the dictionary suggests.
What is really new is the fact that Henrik and I did give some pointers to why it is dubious to call gay people "unnatural" but I'm sure most participants didn't really notice or thought "hmmm... maybe I should read The Selfish Gene" for starters.
So no, nothing new
Or maybe there is: there is confusion about whether it's just about the bullying, or whether the "abnormal" part plays a bigger role for people than the dictionary suggests.
What is really new is the fact that Henrik and I did give some pointers to why it is dubious to call gay people "unnatural" but I'm sure most participants didn't really notice or thought "hmmm... maybe I should read The Selfish Gene" for starters.
So no, nothing new
13 August 2004, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Yeah, but since no-one was flying the liberal flag I felt duty-bound to have a go myself.
Oh, and clearly I'm a PC, ruining-the-country sort of person, that goes without saying.
Oh, and clearly I'm a PC, ruining-the-country sort of person, that goes without saying.
In fact, on this issue, i agree with the idea of same-sex parenting, given the God-awful mess many mixed-sex parents make of it. But i'm certainly not in favour of it because of any politically correct "gays MUST be given the same rights" point of view - i genuinely think they can do a decent job, which has to be of benefit to the children. Overcoming the bullying thing is to me the only major obstacle....
13 August 2004, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SomeDude
Read up.
10 % of kids (wild guess) have a gay parent
10 % of kids (wild guess) have a gay parent
Which proves 2 things.
1. Gay parents can be good parents.
2. Its not advertised hence they don't get bullied.
You see, I'm not anti gay parent. I'm just anti the implications for a child in an openly same sex parent situation.
13 August 2004, 03:17 PM
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This thread is getting funny now:
"You are not a parent so you can't comment on who makes a good parent. I however, know somebody that is gay so I am in a position to speak authoritatively on the subject"
"You are not a parent so you can't comment on who makes a good parent. I however, know somebody that is gay so I am in a position to speak authoritatively on the subject"
13 August 2004, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Ah, right-o, as we were then?!
In fact, on this issue, i agree with the idea of same-sex parenting, given the God-awful mess many mixed-sex parents make of it. But i'm certainly not in favour of it because of any politically correct "gays MUST be given the same rights" point of view - i genuinely think they can do a decent job, which has to be of benefit to the children. Overcoming the bullying thing is to me the only major obstacle....
In fact, on this issue, i agree with the idea of same-sex parenting, given the God-awful mess many mixed-sex parents make of it. But i'm certainly not in favour of it because of any politically correct "gays MUST be given the same rights" point of view - i genuinely think they can do a decent job, which has to be of benefit to the children. Overcoming the bullying thing is to me the only major obstacle....
13 August 2004, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Ah, right-o, as we were then?!
In fact, on this issue, i agree with the idea of same-sex parenting, given the God-awful mess many mixed-sex parents make of it. But i'm certainly not in favour of it because of any politically correct "gays MUST be given the same rights" point of view - i genuinely think they can do a decent job, which has to be of benefit to the children. Overcoming the bullying thing is to me the only major obstacle....
In fact, on this issue, i agree with the idea of same-sex parenting, given the God-awful mess many mixed-sex parents make of it. But i'm certainly not in favour of it because of any politically correct "gays MUST be given the same rights" point of view - i genuinely think they can do a decent job, which has to be of benefit to the children. Overcoming the bullying thing is to me the only major obstacle....
13 August 2004, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Comments like what FB made I would tend to ignore and report to the Mods.
So its ok to suggest i go kill myself then is it?
He started it miss!!
13 August 2004, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Yep, a very big major obstacle!! If you wear Nike instead of Adidas you get hammered let alone "daddies a beneder nu-nu-nu-nu-nuuuhh nuuuhh" !!
13 August 2004, 03:21 PM
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Tiggs, I just did, so I can
But what I meant was that it could be 4 % or 12 %. Still a large number of kids. Even if it would be 1 %. Add bi-sexuals.
See my point ?
But what I meant was that it could be 4 % or 12 %. Still a large number of kids. Even if it would be 1 %. Add bi-sexuals.
See my point ?
13 August 2004, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FrenchBoy
Gimme a break!
So its ok to suggest i go kill myself then is it?
He started it miss!!
So its ok to suggest i go kill myself then is it?
He started it miss!!
13 August 2004, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
i was trying to help...you sounded like life was bad and you didnt enjoy it......hence you need a shrink or a cliff- i offered both, fair point i suggested the shrink 2nd!
13 August 2004, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
It might be two women. Bet the lads at school wouldn't have a problem then...
its never the Playboy lesbian that has kids.
i have never had a Cell block H, doc martin wearing sticky built shaven headed lesbian mother so not sure if i am allowed to comment......but as i going to anyway.........that type of mum is not one that will help the bully problem!
13 August 2004, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
i was trying to help...you sounded like life was bad and you didnt enjoy it......hence you need a shrink or a cliff- i offered both, fair point i suggested the shrink 2nd!
13 August 2004, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Killing yourself?? You're f$cked up mate.