Phil Collins - Arghhhhh!
08 September 2004, 10:07 AM
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bland, simplistic, formulaic.....sometimes a nice glass of water is all you need.
grating ****e.......your opinion?
from a guy pretending to care about the rest of the world......i think you'll find he has given more to such causes than you or i
when all he really cares about is himself and his bank balance.......as opposed to us lot who are what? about to ship aid into Africa strapped to our spoilers?
how can SN exhibit chav teenager symptons and sound like your dad talking about music all at the same time?????
grating ****e.......your opinion?
from a guy pretending to care about the rest of the world......i think you'll find he has given more to such causes than you or i
when all he really cares about is himself and his bank balance.......as opposed to us lot who are what? about to ship aid into Africa strapped to our spoilers?
how can SN exhibit chav teenager symptons and sound like your dad talking about music all at the same time?????
08 September 2004, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
from a guy pretending to care about the rest of the world......i think you'll find he has given more to such causes than you or i
when all he really cares about is himself and his bank balance.......as opposed to us lot who are what? about to ship aid into Africa strapped to our spoilers?
when all he really cares about is himself and his bank balance.......as opposed to us lot who are what? about to ship aid into Africa strapped to our spoilers?
Anyway maybe you're a fan of his or maybe you're just playing Devil's Advocate - either way you're as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.
08 September 2004, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I quite like his music tbh 
dont shoot me 
got the greatest hits album (no there is more than 1 song on it honest 
) think its quite cool to chill out to if im doing any cooking or something
dont shoot me got the greatest hits album (no there is more than 1 song on it honest ) think its quite cool to chill out to if im doing any cooking or something Have his greatest hits too and it is really easy to listen and chill to.
I dont think he is great but i do think he knows how to write a good song that is easy on the ears
08 September 2004, 10:27 AM
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Phil Collins is a nice guy, albeit one who makes records I don't especially like. He wears his heart on his sleeve a bit much, perhaps, but he's given millions to charity. OK, as a percentage of his wealth it may not be much, but it's still something he's done which he wasn't compelled to, and for that he should be given credit.
"Poor little millionaire", you may say "trying to think of ways to spend his money". Better, perhaps, than Mick Jagger, the legendarily tight-fisted and truly undertalented yet lionised old tosser. And perhaps more deserving of public sympathy than, say, Elton John, who's given money to charities but stuck most of the GDP of a medium-sized country up his nose, has never made a good record - reaching an all-time nadir with his ode to stupid non-seatbelt-wearing Sloanes - but is somehow loved by all.
Phil Collins' only crime is that his songs aren't great. Can you think of anything Macca's done post-Beatles that was worth recording on anything other than a home cassette player? Or anything Rod Stewart's done in the last 20 years? Ditto Clapton, Page/Plant .......
"Poor little millionaire", you may say "trying to think of ways to spend his money". Better, perhaps, than Mick Jagger, the legendarily tight-fisted and truly undertalented yet lionised old tosser. And perhaps more deserving of public sympathy than, say, Elton John, who's given money to charities but stuck most of the GDP of a medium-sized country up his nose, has never made a good record - reaching an all-time nadir with his ode to stupid non-seatbelt-wearing Sloanes - but is somehow loved by all.
Phil Collins' only crime is that his songs aren't great. Can you think of anything Macca's done post-Beatles that was worth recording on anything other than a home cassette player? Or anything Rod Stewart's done in the last 20 years? Ditto Clapton, Page/Plant .......
08 September 2004, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
how can SN exhibit chav teenager symptons and sound like your dad talking about music all at the same time?????
08 September 2004, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Can you think of anything Macca's done post-Beatles that was worth recording on anything other than a home cassette player?
08 September 2004, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Moose,
So you don't like the Beatles or the Stones, but you do like Phil Collins - are you deaf?
So you don't like the Beatles or the Stones, but you do like Phil Collins - are you deaf?
I like some of the Stones stuff, but nothing recorded after about 1980 (maybe earlier) is even halfway memorable. And no, I don't like Jagger.
As for the Beatles ... well, some of it was OK (though before my time) but perhaps an albums worth, no more. Let It Be, for example, is so extraordinarily overrated it's almost laughable, and the reverence attached to Lennon is unbelievable. I can't think of more than two or three of his solo songs I'd want to hear more than once, and the less said about Give Peace A Chance, the better.
08 September 2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
You'll notice I said I didn't particularly like Phil Collins' output? It's bland MOR, but no better or worse than, say, The Corrs.
I like some of the Stones stuff, but nothing recorded after about 1980 (maybe earlier) is even halfway memorable. And no, I don't like Jagger.
As for the Beatles ... well, some of it was OK (though before my time) but perhaps an albums worth, no more. Let It Be, for example, is so extraordinarily overrated it's almost laughable, and the reverence attached to Lennon is unbelievable. I can't think of more than two or three of his solo songs I'd want to hear more than once, and the less said about Give Peace A Chance, the better.
I like some of the Stones stuff, but nothing recorded after about 1980 (maybe earlier) is even halfway memorable. And no, I don't like Jagger.
As for the Beatles ... well, some of it was OK (though before my time) but perhaps an albums worth, no more. Let It Be, for example, is so extraordinarily overrated it's almost laughable, and the reverence attached to Lennon is unbelievable. I can't think of more than two or three of his solo songs I'd want to hear more than once, and the less said about Give Peace A Chance, the better.
Sorry dude, but PC is waaaay better than The Corrs - at least PC doesn't (and couldn't) rely purely on looks/image to sell (totally moronic, sh1te, formulaic, verse-chorus-verse-chorus) records.
As for Stones and Beatles - could not agree more! Elvis I could understand but Lennon IMO didn't write even a half-decent song.
08 September 2004, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by drumsterphil
Sorry dude, but PC is waaaay better than The Corrs - at least PC doesn't (and couldn't) rely purely on looks/image to sell (totally moronic, sh1te, formulaic, verse-chorus-verse-chorus) records.
As for Stones and Beatles - could not agree more! Elvis I could understand but Lennon IMO didn't write even a half-decent song.
As for Stones and Beatles - could not agree more! Elvis I could understand but Lennon IMO didn't write even a half-decent song.
08 September 2004, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by the moose
You'll notice I said I didn't particularly like Phil Collins' output? It's bland MOR, but no better or worse than, say, The Corrs.
I like some of the Stones stuff, but nothing recorded after about 1980 (maybe earlier) is even halfway memorable. And no, I don't like Jagger.
As for the Beatles ... well, some of it was OK (though before my time) but perhaps an albums worth, no more. Let It Be, for example, is so extraordinarily overrated it's almost laughable, and the reverence attached to Lennon is unbelievable. I can't think of more than two or three of his solo songs I'd want to hear more than once, and the less said about Give Peace A Chance, the better.
I like some of the Stones stuff, but nothing recorded after about 1980 (maybe earlier) is even halfway memorable. And no, I don't like Jagger.
As for the Beatles ... well, some of it was OK (though before my time) but perhaps an albums worth, no more. Let It Be, for example, is so extraordinarily overrated it's almost laughable, and the reverence attached to Lennon is unbelievable. I can't think of more than two or three of his solo songs I'd want to hear more than once, and the less said about Give Peace A Chance, the better.
And you're right, early Stones is the only way to go.
Anyway enough of Jagger, Lennon, Elvis let's get back to Phil 'I've got a social conscience, honest I have' Collins
08 September 2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FrenchBoy
Elvis didnt even write his own songs, he was the original formulaic pop star puppet.
08 September 2004, 03:58 PM
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The first concert I ever went to was the Invisable Touch Tour at Wembly Stadium
Supported by Paul Young
The Concert was awesome and still ranks as best concert I have seen
and I have seen a few
Ok not everybodies taste but hardly a ****e singer PLEEEASE
Supported by Paul Young
The Concert was awesome and still ranks as best concert I have seen
and I have seen a few
Ok not everybodies taste but hardly a ****e singer PLEEEASE
08 September 2004, 05:23 PM
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I am old enough to say I saw Genesis with Peter Gabriel still singing. One of best concerts I have ever been to (and I have seen most of the earlier groups)!!
Give Phil Collins his due as a phenomenal drummer.
Give Phil Collins his due as a phenomenal drummer.
Originally Posted by *Sonic*
I agree too about the Gabriel early Genesis stuff
got em on Vinyl
including a mispressing of Foxtrot, which has basically 2 A sides, but the grooves for the B side are correct for the tunes that should be there, but they are the A-side tunes !!
got em on Vinyl
including a mispressing of Foxtrot, which has basically 2 A sides, but the grooves for the B side are correct for the tunes that should be there, but they are the A-side tunes !!
08 September 2004, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by STi-Frenchie
Can someone come and take him back to the UK please ? We're done with him. Thanks in advance.
08 September 2004, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ubik
A classic case of 'not in my backyard'. You have him, you keep him!
08 September 2004, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FrenchBoy
Elvis didnt even write his own songs, he was the original formulaic pop star puppet.
No Elvis had real talent to start with. IMHO. D
09 September 2004, 09:04 AM
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Saw Genesis with Phil Collins as lead and they were superb. Bet half the posters on here never heard of Genesis anyway as they're just young pups.
At least he managed to write,play and perform his songs which is something very few of todays so-called artists can do.
Compare Collins to more modern day icons. No contest I'm afraid.
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At least he managed to write,play and perform his songs which is something very few of todays so-called artists can do.
Compare Collins to more modern day icons. No contest I'm afraid.
Chip
09 September 2004, 10:19 AM
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Nah, thats why John Lennon and Paul Mccartney could sit down and write a song in 10 minutes and earn more money from that song, that any of us would see in a life time, and Phil Collins is a bloody good song writer and performer, sadly some of you can't see it
Cheers
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Cheers
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09 September 2004, 10:23 AM
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He's a damn good drummer with a very distinctive style. Here wrote on or two great songs (Another Day In Paradise) and had a cracking hit with Phil Baily (Easy Lover). What's the problem? - apart from his potato headed appearance of course.
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As for the John Lennon and Paul McCartney thing - without McCartney there would have been no Lennon. The reverse is *not* true. Paul McCartney is a uniquely talanted individual and would have risen to prominence with or without Lennon's 'help'.
Have a good listen to Paul McCartney - Ram released after the Beatles but before Wings to hear just how good his writing and arranging really is. It's a masterpiece.
UB
Have a good listen to Paul McCartney - Ram released after the Beatles but before Wings to hear just how good his writing and arranging really is. It's a masterpiece.
UB