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24 September 2004, 02:53 PM
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Throw your toys out why dont you!!
Some of us were just trying to help by posting pics and prices that we have paid. Thus, maybe helping to get more interest in your groupbuy.
Obviously you dont need any help as you are going back to play school...
Wont bother in future. Im sure some of the others on you thread would have been appreciative of the input to help them make up there minds.
If they are then i got mine from Scoobyclinic.
They also sale dummies!
Obviously you dont need any help as you are going back to play school...
Wont bother in future. Im sure some of the others on you thread would have been appreciative of the input to help them make up there minds.
If they are then i got mine from Scoobyclinic.
They also sale dummies!
..........Ah well 
................................shame seemed like a good deal ta me....................
25 September 2004, 01:45 PM
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Didnt it become the law back in the mid 90's that all cars made after a certain date had to have a high level rear brake light and Subaru incorporate it into the spoiler (so you would either need it in the new spoiler or an aftermarket one inside the rear screen). This probably wont apply to the IOM but it will in the UK?
29 September 2004, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ayde
Didnt it become the law back in the mid 90's that all cars made after a certain date had to have a high level rear brake light and Subaru incorporate it into the spoiler (so you would either need it in the new spoiler or an aftermarket one inside the rear screen). This probably wont apply to the IOM but it will in the UK?
The new Evo 7/8's dont have break lights in the spoilers.
Never heared that one before.
29 September 2004, 03:07 PM
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Found this on it appears that its not an MOT requirment but EEC legislation makes them compulsary on recent cars.
http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/stoplamps.html
As mentioned above, additional stop lamps are tested and this includes high level brake lamps. These are usually mounted in spoilers or rear parcel shelves. Since these lamps are over and above the current legal requirements (I know that EEC legislation makes these compulsory on recent vehicles but this has nothing to do with the MOT test at the moment) they are treated more leniently. For example, if a high level lamp is not working, the tester needs to establish whether it's connected because if it isn't then its not a lamp in the eyes of the Law (Yup, I know the Law is an ***). Deciding whether the lamp is connected is of course virtually impossible because the wiring is under trim panels, headliners etc so the upshot is it gets ignored (pass and advise). If the lamp doesn't work because it is obviously defective, e.g bulb blown, wiring broken etc then it fails. You still with me? There is however some logic in all this. In the paragraph above I mentioned stop lamps incorporated with direction indicators and if an obligatory stop lamp did not work or flickered when in operation, it might be confused with an indicator (one reason why the lamps get tapped while they are lit). This would not be the case with a centrally mounted high level stop lamp, would it. In road safety terms then, a high level stop lamp which doesn't work is a minimal risk to other road users.
http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/stoplamps.html
As mentioned above, additional stop lamps are tested and this includes high level brake lamps. These are usually mounted in spoilers or rear parcel shelves. Since these lamps are over and above the current legal requirements (I know that EEC legislation makes these compulsory on recent vehicles but this has nothing to do with the MOT test at the moment) they are treated more leniently. For example, if a high level lamp is not working, the tester needs to establish whether it's connected because if it isn't then its not a lamp in the eyes of the Law (Yup, I know the Law is an ***). Deciding whether the lamp is connected is of course virtually impossible because the wiring is under trim panels, headliners etc so the upshot is it gets ignored (pass and advise). If the lamp doesn't work because it is obviously defective, e.g bulb blown, wiring broken etc then it fails. You still with me? There is however some logic in all this. In the paragraph above I mentioned stop lamps incorporated with direction indicators and if an obligatory stop lamp did not work or flickered when in operation, it might be confused with an indicator (one reason why the lamps get tapped while they are lit). This would not be the case with a centrally mounted high level stop lamp, would it. In road safety terms then, a high level stop lamp which doesn't work is a minimal risk to other road users.
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