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Old 20 September 2004, 11:41 PM
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Pop an STi panel filter into your STi PPP and be amazed at the difference this cheap alteration has. No hesitancy low down and I'm positive its pulling harder and more responsively.
Old 21 September 2004, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hugo
Pop an STi panel filter into your STi PPP and be amazed at the difference this cheap alteration has. No hesitancy low down and I'm positive its pulling harder and more responsively.
Is that available at the dealer or is it a japan thing? Will it destroy my warranty?
Old 21 September 2004, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sKunk
Yeah, but the PPP remaps the engine to produce 300+bhp peaking lower in the rev range.
Std and PPP both peak at 6k. I have the graph here.

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Old 21 September 2004, 05:38 PM
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where is the graph because i would like to see how it tails off after 6k
Old 21 September 2004, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by davedipster
Std and PPP both peak at 6k. I have the graph here.

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Fairplay

Maybe the drop off is more on the STI? Got pics of the graphs?
Old 21 September 2004, 06:42 PM
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Where can we get the STI panel filter from
any suggestions?.

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Old 21 September 2004, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sKunk
Fairplay

Maybe the drop off is more on the STI? Got pics of the graphs?
Have a look here m8

http://www.prodrive.com/up/03MY%20STi%20PPP.pdf


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Old 22 September 2004, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fergie_uk
Where can we get the STI panel filter from
any suggestions?.

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more chat
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=363716

www.japanparts.com
£30 + credit card charge + P&P = about £40


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Old 22 September 2004, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mosquito
Destroyed your fuel consumption???????

You mean it can get worse?????

Is this under normal driving or just when you're pushing on?

I seem to be returning about 19.5 mpgs over the whole tank - and that's with quite a bit of Driving Miss Daisey! I was returning about 24 in the R32 with the same driving style!


How much harder does the PPP car charge under full boost than the standard one?
Mosquito I had an R32 brfore the STi 8 and it was doing 23 to the gallon on average, The STi did 21 on the last tank and 18 the one before. I was supposed to be getting a 2nd hand PPP fitted last week but the guy let me down .
Old 22 September 2004, 11:47 AM
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would it be worth getting the PPP to keep the warranty, and then go to TSL and get it re-mapped a apart from the map itself pretty much everything else is the same?

I have been told that your local scooby dealer dont have the ability to read an ecu so they cant tell on a normal service, and if you had to send the car in and there was a chance that they may look at the ecu (for a specfic problem) then you can reset the ecu?

Is this true and worth doing?
Old 22 September 2004, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ARM-Scooby
would it be worth getting the PPP to keep the warranty, and then go to TSL and get it re-mapped a apart from the map itself pretty much everything else is the same?

I have been told that your local scooby dealer dont have the ability to read an ecu so they cant tell on a normal service, and if you had to send the car in and there was a chance that they may look at the ecu (for a specfic problem) then you can reset the ecu?

Is this true and worth doing?
No it's not true and not worth doing at all.
Get PPP for the warrentee and stick with that...or go for the 333 like remap and have no engine warrentee.

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Old 22 September 2004, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davedipster
Thanks mate.

Interesting 0-60 times from prodrive compared with Evo. If I remember correctly Evo state 5.2 for the STI PPP but Prodrive reckon 4.62.

I prefer Prodrives figures
Old 22 September 2004, 01:31 PM
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cheers for that, the things you hear via chinese whispers.

Suppose i just have to decide what is important to me, think the PPP would be the one as it will probably leave me with less worries/ stress in the long run, is it going to blow/ get damaged etc.
Old 22 September 2004, 02:09 PM
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I have an STi PPP and have driven a TSL tweeked STi regularly. The TSL is good but the difference between the motors doesn't justify blowing your warranty IMHO. By all means get it 333-ed after 60K/3yrs, but there is plenty of room to tune your PPP in the interim to keep it interesting. e.g. suspension/brake/new back box tweeks. Especially suspension, which is attrocious in standard set-up. Then you can go a bit mental after the warranty is up.
Old 22 September 2004, 06:29 PM
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i wouldnt say the sti suspension is attrocious, its provides a suitable set-up that is easily capable of out handling most cars with a suitale compromise between comfort, speed and tyre wear with understeer built in as thats easeier to correct.
Old 22 September 2004, 07:16 PM
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OK! Maybe that was a wee bit harsh, but there is still so much more room for improvement whilst still maintaining day to day driveability.
Old 23 September 2004, 11:20 AM
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i have the prodrive springs on already so its wheels and power next then may be some pods (as i have always wanted some).

Having read your comments Hugo i am now more pointed in the PPP direction rather than the 333, both for the warranty and for piece of mind.
Old 23 September 2004, 11:42 AM
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hugo, fair point well made

im a sissy scooby driver anyway so understeer all the way for me
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