Since when is it ok to park in disabled spots?
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Interesting views from those that can only wonder what is important and what isn't but do not actually know first hand.
As like most things, there are different categories of disabilities.
For an active wheelchair user, it's space everytime, distance isn't much of a concern.
As said before, if a few wheelchair only spaces were not at the front of the store it would solve a lot of problems for certain wheelchair users but not all.
As like most things, there are different categories of disabilities.
For an active wheelchair user, it's space everytime, distance isn't much of a concern.
As said before, if a few wheelchair only spaces were not at the front of the store it would solve a lot of problems for certain wheelchair users but not all.
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Originally Posted by paulr
Outside our local council offices there are 5 normal bays and 3 disabled.The 5 are always full,the disabled usually one,occasionally two.
In such circumstances it should be first come first served.
In such circumstances it should be first come first served.
Unfortunately, whilst there are beliefs like yours, this country will continue to go downhill.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Paul- You really have no concept whatsoever about just how difficult it is to simply park and exit a vehicle using a wheelchair. The terrain needs to be flat, smooth and spacious, cancelling out a big percentage of anywhere else other than the best disabled bays.
Unfortunately, whilst there are beliefs like yours, this country will continue to go downhill.
Unfortunately, whilst there are beliefs like yours, this country will continue to go downhill.
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Originally Posted by IWatkins
I don't do supermarkets.
Many grand-prix circuits, venues, hotels, town centres, etc are póó too.
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To be fair if they made car parking spaces big enough then a lot of people wouldnt use the disabled or parent and child spaces.
I use both these, not cause I am lazy and don't want to walk any distance, but because I don't want someone who is parked next to me in a bucket *** car to bang their door against the side of my car. Have you trid to remove pin dents from the door of a car ?
I use both these, not cause I am lazy and don't want to walk any distance, but because I don't want someone who is parked next to me in a bucket *** car to bang their door against the side of my car. Have you trid to remove pin dents from the door of a car ?
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im nearly 16 and we park in the mother and child section,
my uncle did it once with my gran and held her hand as he walked into the shop
parent and child? disabled? i say to hell with these name
"lazy ******* spaces"
my uncle did it once with my gran and held her hand as he walked into the shop
parent and child? disabled? i say to hell with these name
"lazy ******* spaces"
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Originally Posted by bren
Am I the only one whos blood boils when they see able bodied people park in disabled spots?
A few weeks ago I took him out to <some shop> and every disabled space was full, I had to drop him at the door and park elsewhere. 80% of the cars there had no disabled badge When I complained to <some shop> they said they were aware of the problem but couldnt clamp as it would upset customers.
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Originally Posted by yvette296
Donna - i had an idea once which I put to a friend of mine that if the parent & child spaces were jsut a point of room - then why not put them further away - then no-one would be tempted to park in them would they> What do you think?
As for the disabled bays - whilst i see your point about integration bren, from purely a personal perspective, if I am unloading my daughter from our Kangoo in her wheelchair, then I want to get her into the store as quickly as possible as she can't protect herself from the elements. And i you have never tried holding an umbrella, closing the van & pushing a wheelchair and keeping an eye on the person in the wheelchair then you possibly would not understand why these shoudl be close to the doors.
As for the disabled bays - whilst i see your point about integration bren, from purely a personal perspective, if I am unloading my daughter from our Kangoo in her wheelchair, then I want to get her into the store as quickly as possible as she can't protect herself from the elements. And i you have never tried holding an umbrella, closing the van & pushing a wheelchair and keeping an eye on the person in the wheelchair then you possibly would not understand why these shoudl be close to the doors.
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We have 2 disabled bays at my works (halfrauds) and if i had my way id clamp the wideboy *******s that park there just to avoid getting there cars knocked. The porsche, ferrari, aston etc owners dont use the spaces so why should some ringpiece in a dodgely painted Peugeot feel he has the right to park there? It would be nice to use forcefull measures to keep the disabled bays clear, but having seen the problems our local tescos have got into (a security guard got beat up not so long ago)
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agree about the parent and child spaces they are a god send and when you see some tw@t parking there in a 2 seater that has no way on earth got room for a child seat or let alone a pushchair. it makes me see red to the point that usually, the only way to the pedestrian area bit is to walk past the parent and child spaces and oops the pushchair just got a mind of it's own and bu66er theres now a nice scratch on the door. wouldn't have got it if they never parked where they shouldn't.
in an ideal world they would be clamped and made to pay such a fine they won't do it again.
in an ideal world they would be clamped and made to pay such a fine they won't do it again.
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Very valuable points but can I just say.......
- Why do supermarkets have so many disabled spots?????
A few reserved spots that were better policed would make much better sense in my opinion.
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The basic problem is this.
Far too many people in this world are selfish, inconsiderate, "me me me", lazy sods who think the world owes them. They also hate being told where to park, and therefore seem to enjoy sticking two fingers up to authority and parking where they deem it is acceptable to do so.
I suspect these people do have slight feelings of guilt for microseconds, but they sadly have an overriding feeling of "everyone else does it, so why don't I". Sad really. Simpletons going about their dull & banal lives whose sole pleasure in life seems to be enjoying a "victory" over rules which they gain pleasure in abusing. I suspect it's down to a lack of power in other aspects of their life that drives them to it. Who really cares about the balance of power in, of all things, a supermarket carpark!!! It's a shame they can't channel these efforts into more productive tasks.
There's no point reasoning with them, as it always ends up with the reasonable person becoming more stressed over it than the pikey who is committing the "offence".
I've tried for many a day to think of a reasoned & logical solution to the parking issues, preferably humiliating the pikeys who offend. I've yet to find one
It's shameful, and a sad reflection on the society we live in today
Far too many people in this world are selfish, inconsiderate, "me me me", lazy sods who think the world owes them. They also hate being told where to park, and therefore seem to enjoy sticking two fingers up to authority and parking where they deem it is acceptable to do so.
I suspect these people do have slight feelings of guilt for microseconds, but they sadly have an overriding feeling of "everyone else does it, so why don't I". Sad really. Simpletons going about their dull & banal lives whose sole pleasure in life seems to be enjoying a "victory" over rules which they gain pleasure in abusing. I suspect it's down to a lack of power in other aspects of their life that drives them to it. Who really cares about the balance of power in, of all things, a supermarket carpark!!! It's a shame they can't channel these efforts into more productive tasks.
There's no point reasoning with them, as it always ends up with the reasonable person becoming more stressed over it than the pikey who is committing the "offence".
I've tried for many a day to think of a reasoned & logical solution to the parking issues, preferably humiliating the pikeys who offend. I've yet to find one
It's shameful, and a sad reflection on the society we live in today
Last edited by imlach; 16 September 2004 at 01:09 AM.
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Originally Posted by Playsatan
[/list]A new Tesco's opened up near me a few months ago and about a third of the spaces are reserved for the disabled. I would imagine they've done this because of all the inconsiderate a$$hole's that park in them but in my opinion they're making the situation worse.
Lazy gits.
#46
It is difficult to believe some of the posts put up on this thread by what must be extremely selfish people.
PSL, it is not the biggest problem as you say, you don't knpw whether that person you see walking away doesn't suffer from a heart or breathing complaint which entitles them to a disabled badge as well. Maybe you feel some jealousy like a lot of people obviously do because they see someone getting a bit of priority for which they themselves are not eligible.
Paulr,
I honestly thought what you said initially was a wind-up. Now that it obviously is not, then I think you should hang your head in shame. Is this really the way of your brave new world?
The disabled badge has to be approved medically and you cannot assume anything when you see someone who is entitled to hold one. And yes I get disapproving looks from some disabled people until they realise that I am entitled to use the bay. I am not surprised at that because of the selfish behaviour of so many fit people.
Les
PSL, it is not the biggest problem as you say, you don't knpw whether that person you see walking away doesn't suffer from a heart or breathing complaint which entitles them to a disabled badge as well. Maybe you feel some jealousy like a lot of people obviously do because they see someone getting a bit of priority for which they themselves are not eligible.
Paulr,
I honestly thought what you said initially was a wind-up. Now that it obviously is not, then I think you should hang your head in shame. Is this really the way of your brave new world?
The disabled badge has to be approved medically and you cannot assume anything when you see someone who is entitled to hold one. And yes I get disapproving looks from some disabled people until they realise that I am entitled to use the bay. I am not surprised at that because of the selfish behaviour of so many fit people.
Les
Last edited by Leslie; 16 September 2004 at 08:03 AM.
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I don't park in either of these types of spaces but here's a couple of questions (some may have been asked before):
What if there are far too many Disabled spaces so that ofter they're the ONLY spaces free and only 3 of the 30 allocated Disabled spaces are taken? What then? Should people double park and block others in? Should they park in the Disable spaces?
Parent & Child - Again - why have so many spaces? If someone CHOSE to have children, shouldn't they accept the challenges that parenthood brings? Are Parent & Child spaces not just another reason (along with Benefit money etc) to have a load of kids? Should childless individuals not be rewarded for NOT having kids - and thus saving everyone money?
Lastly - if ablebodied, childless people only park in regular bays, should they not be rewarded in some other way? If you do someone a favour, you'd like to be rewarded. Or are the special bays a 'right' of the occupant and therefore not seen as goodwill when they are left alone by ablebodied people?
Just thoughts people and if in doubt, re-read my first sentence before replying.
What if there are far too many Disabled spaces so that ofter they're the ONLY spaces free and only 3 of the 30 allocated Disabled spaces are taken? What then? Should people double park and block others in? Should they park in the Disable spaces?
Parent & Child - Again - why have so many spaces? If someone CHOSE to have children, shouldn't they accept the challenges that parenthood brings? Are Parent & Child spaces not just another reason (along with Benefit money etc) to have a load of kids? Should childless individuals not be rewarded for NOT having kids - and thus saving everyone money?
Lastly - if ablebodied, childless people only park in regular bays, should they not be rewarded in some other way? If you do someone a favour, you'd like to be rewarded. Or are the special bays a 'right' of the occupant and therefore not seen as goodwill when they are left alone by ablebodied people?
Just thoughts people and if in doubt, re-read my first sentence before replying.
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Let me make one thing clear.I NEVER park in the disabled spots in supermarkets.I always park right out of the way in the far corner,reason being,i dont want someone with a ton of kids parking next to me and "dinging" my car.
If i used a disabled spot,i'd have to use TWO for the above reason.Now THAT would be selfish.
If i used a disabled spot,i'd have to use TWO for the above reason.Now THAT would be selfish.
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Anyone tried online shopping - you can park you **** on your computer chair and no-one dings your car.
"Oh bu99er - that apple went under that shelf unit - fish it out with that mop will ya?"
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Originally Posted by paulr
I always park right out of the way in the far corner
Don't worry though - I'm always VERY careful with the doors! I can picture the nervous look of terror on the owner's face as they spot my car and then quicken their pace
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You can bluster all you want but there is never any excuse for using a disabled parking bay wherever it is, if you are not entitled.
You can never tell if enough disabled drivers may appear to fill the slots and then find they cannot park because you have used one of them when you should not have.
Les
You can never tell if enough disabled drivers may appear to fill the slots and then find they cannot park because you have used one of them when you should not have.
Les
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Hmmm...
So you have disabled parking spaces like everywhere else, ok. And then spaces for families? In Germany they have spaces reserved for women! Next we'll park according to what job we do or how many children we have...
Where I live, delivery parking spaces are ruled to be anticonstitutional because it gives people different rights according to what jobs they do (and the constitution says everybody has the same rights).
So you have disabled parking spaces like everywhere else, ok. And then spaces for families? In Germany they have spaces reserved for women! Next we'll park according to what job we do or how many children we have...
Where I live, delivery parking spaces are ruled to be anticonstitutional because it gives people different rights according to what jobs they do (and the constitution says everybody has the same rights).
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I'd like to start by making it clear that I disagree with non-disabled people using disabled bays
However, some of the comments made supporting this view show a terrible attitude too. Passing judgement on others without knowing the facts, damaging incorrectly parked cars etc, makes you just as bad IMHO.
The way I see it, is that if someone parks in a disabled bay they probably have a very good reason and if they don't, then why should I concern myself with their ignorance? Live and let live
However, some of the comments made supporting this view show a terrible attitude too. Passing judgement on others without knowing the facts, damaging incorrectly parked cars etc, makes you just as bad IMHO.
The way I see it, is that if someone parks in a disabled bay they probably have a very good reason and if they don't, then why should I concern myself with their ignorance? Live and let live
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Originally Posted by andypugh2000
Parent and child spaces really annoy me how did we ever manage without them i think to myself make the lazy bratts walk and they wont get fat.
I always park in them when I have my daughter with me cos it *hopefully* means I won't get dinged.
I never park in disabled spots, or in the parent and child spaces when I don't have her with me. It's just a common decency thing - but Britain is severely lacking in respect and decency these days......
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my tuppence worth;
Disabled spaces are for disabled drivers if you are able bodied don't park in them it just confirms that you are selfish and ignorant. If you disagree with disabled spaces tough **** and you are a tw@t.
Parent/Mother and Child; just PC bullsh1t. If they are necessary why not put them away from the store and make use of the bits of the car park that are not normally used. I bet less people would sing their praises if they weren’t right out front the store…
Anti door ding; park away from the store where there are fewer cars because most people are too lazy to walk.
Disabled spaces are for disabled drivers if you are able bodied don't park in them it just confirms that you are selfish and ignorant. If you disagree with disabled spaces tough **** and you are a tw@t.
Parent/Mother and Child; just PC bullsh1t. If they are necessary why not put them away from the store and make use of the bits of the car park that are not normally used. I bet less people would sing their praises if they weren’t right out front the store…
Anti door ding; park away from the store where there are fewer cars because most people are too lazy to walk.
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Spot on Trails!
People in the unfortunate position of being disabled deserve special help/assistance, it was not by choice their situation.
Agree again, Although shopping with a child is extra hassle its just marketing, one supermarket did it to have an edge over the competition and they all followed suit.
I always take up an end space where possible and park extra close to the curb.
Originally Posted by trails
Disabled spaces are for disabled drivers if you are able bodied don't park in them it just confirms that you are selfish and ignorant. If you disagree with disabled spaces tough **** and you are a tw@t.
Originally Posted by trails
Parent/Mother and Child; just PC bullsh1t. If they are necessary why not put them away from the store and make use of the bits of the car park that are not normally used.
Originally Posted by trails
If they are Anti door ding; park away from the store where there are fewer cars because most people are too lazy to walk.
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A new Tesco's opened up near me a few months ago and about a third of the spaces are reserved for the disabled. I would imagine they've done this because of all the inconsiderate a$$hole's that park in them but in my opinion they're making the situation worse.[
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I used to use parent and cild spaces when my kids could not walk and I had to put them in a trolley or pushchair. Now the youngest is 3 and they can walk I dont bother looking for them.
I never have used disabled, even when there were no childs spaces because some fucquit thinks he is better than me.
But I do really enjoy embarrasing people who park there.
Its very rewarding when the ar$eholes look really shocked with everyone looking at them.
I think more people should do it
I never have used disabled, even when there were no childs spaces because some fucquit thinks he is better than me.
But I do really enjoy embarrasing people who park there.
Its very rewarding when the ar$eholes look really shocked with everyone looking at them.
I think more people should do it
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[QUOTE=HolI never have used disabled, even when there were no childs spaces because some fucquit thinks he is better than me.
But I do really enjoy embarrasing people who park there.
Its very rewarding when the ar$eholes look really shocked with everyone looking at them.
I think more people should do it[/QUOTE]
Education through humiliation...nice
But I do really enjoy embarrasing people who park there.
Its very rewarding when the ar$eholes look really shocked with everyone looking at them.
I think more people should do it[/QUOTE]
Education through humiliation...nice