Spoon

Interesting views from those that can only wonder what is important and what isn't but do not actually know first hand.

As like most things, there are different categories of disabilities.

For an active wheelchair user, it's space everytime, distance isn't much of a concern.

As said before, if a few wheelchair only spaces were not at the front of the store it would solve a lot of problems for certain wheelchair users but not all.

Spoon

Paul- You really have no concept whatsoever about just how difficult it is to simply park and exit a vehicle using a wheelchair. The terrain needs to be flat, smooth and spacious, cancelling out a big percentage of anywhere else other than the best disabled bays.

Unfortunately, whilst there are beliefs like yours, this country will continue to go downhill.

yvette296

hear hear. i hate non-disabled people using these spaces. If they have a legitimate reason (i have no prejudice as to what type of genuine disability) then they should be free to use them. others should be shot on sight

IWatkins

I don't do supermarkets.

Spoon

Another common misconception that it's only supermarkets that disabled people use.

Many grand-prix circuits, venues, hotels, town centres, etc are póó too.

VAL113R

To be fair if they made car parking spaces big enough then a lot of people wouldnt use the disabled or parent and child spaces.

I use both these, not cause I am lazy and don't want to walk any distance, but because I don't want someone who is parked next to me in a bucket *** car to bang their door against the side of my car. Have you trid to remove pin dents from the door of a car ?

The Mini Daddy

im nearly 16 and we park in the mother and child section,


my uncle did it once with my gran and held her hand as he walked into the shop


parent and child? disabled? i say to hell with these name

"lazy ******* spaces"

Spoon

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Jaybird-UK

Nope, really annoys me too, my father is disabled and has difficulty walking great distances.

A few weeks ago I took him out to <some shop> and every disabled space was full, I had to drop him at the door and park elsewhere. 80% of the cars there had no disabled badge When I complained to <some shop> they said they were aware of the problem but couldnt clamp as it would upset customers.

D.K.1

I see your point, I would rather park in a space with room, with the kids in the car, but, if they were further away, say if it was raining hard or blowing a gale or whatever, and you have a new or small baby, you might not want the child out in it while you wait for traffic to pass and get the trolley to or from the store. Our local supermarket gets really busy with cars in and out of the car park, the odd time, when it's been extremely busy, we have parked well out of the way and had to carry the baby in bad weather, it's easy to slip or trip.

Brother_Will

We have 2 disabled bays at my works (halfrauds) and if i had my way id clamp the wideboy *******s that park there just to avoid getting there cars knocked. The porsche, ferrari, aston etc owners dont use the spaces so why should some ringpiece in a dodgely painted Peugeot feel he has the right to park there? It would be nice to use forcefull measures to keep the disabled bays clear, but having seen the problems our local tescos have got into (a security guard got beat up not so long ago)

scoobyboy

agree about the parent and child spaces they are a god send and when you see some tw@t parking there in a 2 seater that has no way on earth got room for a child seat or let alone a pushchair. it makes me see red to the point that usually, the only way to the pedestrian area bit is to walk past the parent and child spaces and oops the pushchair just got a mind of it's own and bu66er theres now a nice scratch on the door. wouldn't have got it if they never parked where they shouldn't.
in an ideal world they would be clamped and made to pay such a fine they won't do it again.

Playsatan

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For me Zoton has hit the nail on the head here. A new Tesco's opened up near me a few months ago and about a third of the spaces are reserved for the disabled. I would imagine they've done this because of all the inconsiderate a$$hole's that park in them but in my opinion they're making the situation worse.

A few reserved spots that were better policed would make much better sense in my opinion.

imlach

The basic problem is this.

Far too many people in this world are selfish, inconsiderate, "me me me", lazy sods who think the world owes them. They also hate being told where to park, and therefore seem to enjoy sticking two fingers up to authority and parking where they deem it is acceptable to do so.

I suspect these people do have slight feelings of guilt for microseconds, but they sadly have an overriding feeling of "everyone else does it, so why don't I". Sad really. Simpletons going about their dull & banal lives whose sole pleasure in life seems to be enjoying a "victory" over rules which they gain pleasure in abusing. I suspect it's down to a lack of power in other aspects of their life that drives them to it. Who really cares about the balance of power in, of all things, a supermarket carpark!!! It's a shame they can't channel these efforts into more productive tasks.

There's no point reasoning with them, as it always ends up with the reasonable person becoming more stressed over it than the pikey who is committing the "offence".

I've tried for many a day to think of a reasoned & logical solution to the parking issues, preferably humiliating the pikeys who offend. I've yet to find one

It's shameful, and a sad reflection on the society we live in today

imlach

No, you misunderstand. The supermarkets are allowing for future expansion. Those who today are physically fit yet deem themselves "above" walking more than 10m from car to supermarket door are themselves the disabled badge-holders of tommorow through their own sheer lazyness & greed.

Lazy gits.

Leslie

It is difficult to believe some of the posts put up on this thread by what must be extremely selfish people.

PSL, it is not the biggest problem as you say, you don't knpw whether that person you see walking away doesn't suffer from a heart or breathing complaint which entitles them to a disabled badge as well. Maybe you feel some jealousy like a lot of people obviously do because they see someone getting a bit of priority for which they themselves are not eligible.

Paulr,

I honestly thought what you said initially was a wind-up. Now that it obviously is not, then I think you should hang your head in shame. Is this really the way of your brave new world?

The disabled badge has to be approved medically and you cannot assume anything when you see someone who is entitled to hold one. And yes I get disapproving looks from some disabled people until they realise that I am entitled to use the bay. I am not surprised at that because of the selfish behaviour of so many fit people.

Les

mad_dr

I don't park in either of these types of spaces but here's a couple of questions (some may have been asked before):

What if there are far too many Disabled spaces so that ofter they're the ONLY spaces free and only 3 of the 30 allocated Disabled spaces are taken? What then? Should people double park and block others in? Should they park in the Disable spaces?

Parent & Child - Again - why have so many spaces? If someone CHOSE to have children, shouldn't they accept the challenges that parenthood brings? Are Parent & Child spaces not just another reason (along with Benefit money etc) to have a load of kids? Should childless individuals not be rewarded for NOT having kids - and thus saving everyone money?

Lastly - if ablebodied, childless people only park in regular bays, should they not be rewarded in some other way? If you do someone a favour, you'd like to be rewarded. Or are the special bays a 'right' of the occupant and therefore not seen as goodwill when they are left alone by ablebodied people?

Just thoughts people and if in doubt, re-read my first sentence before replying.

lightning101

Anyone tried online shopping - you can park you **** on your computer chair and no-one dings your car.

paulr

Let me make one thing clear.I NEVER park in the disabled spots in supermarkets.I always park right out of the way in the far corner,reason being,i dont want someone with a ton of kids parking next to me and "dinging" my car.

If i used a disabled spot,i'd have to use TWO for the above reason.Now THAT would be selfish.

mad_dr

Nah - I have visions of bored supermarket staff playing footie with my food.

"Oh bu99er - that apple went under that shelf unit - fish it out with that mop will ya?"

mad_dr

I look out for cars like that - flashy cars parked well away from everything else. Then I park my battered old Nissan RIGHT next to it for company.

Don't worry though - I'm always VERY careful with the doors! I can picture the nervous look of terror on the owner's face as they spot my car and then quicken their pace

Leslie

You can bluster all you want but there is never any excuse for using a disabled parking bay wherever it is, if you are not entitled.

You can never tell if enough disabled drivers may appear to fill the slots and then find they cannot park because you have used one of them when you should not have.

Les

Claudius

Hmmm...

So you have disabled parking spaces like everywhere else, ok. And then spaces for families? In Germany they have spaces reserved for women! Next we'll park according to what job we do or how many children we have...

Where I live, delivery parking spaces are ruled to be anticonstitutional because it gives people different rights according to what jobs they do (and the constitution says everybody has the same rights).

Daryl

I'd like to start by making it clear that I disagree with non-disabled people using disabled bays

However, some of the comments made supporting this view show a terrible attitude too. Passing judgement on others without knowing the facts, damaging incorrectly parked cars etc, makes you just as bad IMHO.

The way I see it, is that if someone parks in a disabled bay they probably have a very good reason and if they don't, then why should I concern myself with their ignorance? Live and let live

Clarebabes

It's nothing to do with being lazy, it's to do with car doors being opened by brats who have no regard for dents or paintwork.

I always park in them when I have my daughter with me cos it *hopefully* means I won't get dinged.

I never park in disabled spots, or in the parent and child spaces when I don't have her with me. It's just a common decency thing - but Britain is severely lacking in respect and decency these days......

trails

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my tuppence worth;

Disabled spaces are for disabled drivers if you are able bodied don't park in them it just confirms that you are selfish and ignorant. If you disagree with disabled spaces tough **** and you are a tw@t.

Parent/Mother and Child; just PC bullsh1t. If they are necessary why not put them away from the store and make use of the bits of the car park that are not normally used. I bet less people would sing their praises if they weren’t right out front the store…

Anti door ding; park away from the store where there are fewer cars because most people are too lazy to walk.

Jaybird-UK

Spot on Trails!

People in the unfortunate position of being disabled deserve special help/assistance, it was not by choice their situation.

Agree again, Although shopping with a child is extra hassle its just marketing, one supermarket did it to have an edge over the competition and they all followed suit.

I always take up an end space where possible and park extra close to the curb.

gsm1

I think the supermarkets are in a 'we care more' war, that's why there are more and more disabled spaces.

Hol

iTrader: (1)

I used to use parent and cild spaces when my kids could not walk and I had to put them in a trolley or pushchair. Now the youngest is 3 and they can walk I dont bother looking for them.

I never have used disabled, even when there were no childs spaces because some fucquit thinks he is better than me.

But I do really enjoy embarrasing people who park there.

Its very rewarding when the ar$eholes look really shocked with everyone looking at them.

I think more people should do it

trails

iTrader: (41)

[QUOTE=HolI never have used disabled, even when there were no childs spaces because some fucquit thinks he is better than me.

But I do really enjoy embarrasing people who park there.

Its very rewarding when the ar$eholes look really shocked with everyone looking at them.

I think more people should do it[/QUOTE]


Education through humiliation...nice