Another fitness question - I need some serious advice...
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Well done my fast walk, just got back. 35 mins it took to do about 3 miles if thats about right (including stopping for traffic lights and crossing over Tower Bridge as some bloke has climbed up it lol ) ?
Chest was hurting like hell after about 25 mins and then was better by the time I got back. Nothing great in terms of distance but its a start and I worked up a sweat so will do that each day this week and see how it goes.
OK Tel point taken - will have to send W69 out to get me a skipping rope
Could do with an afternoon kip now!
Chest was hurting like hell after about 25 mins and then was better by the time I got back. Nothing great in terms of distance but its a start and I worked up a sweat so will do that each day this week and see how it goes.
OK Tel point taken - will have to send W69 out to get me a skipping rope
Could do with an afternoon kip now!
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3 mile in 35 mins would be 11min 40sec miling.
Just for comparison:-
An easy walk is about 3mph or 20min/mile
A forced march is about 4mph or 15min/mile
An average jog is about 6mph or 10min/mile
An average run is about 8mph or 7.5min/mile
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Just for comparison:-
An easy walk is about 3mph or 20min/mile
A forced march is about 4mph or 15min/mile
An average jog is about 6mph or 10min/mile
An average run is about 8mph or 7.5min/mile
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Well done Bob - keep at it mate
BTW, I genuinely suggest you don't start skipping yet, if you hurt after a long walk. Skipping will give you a heart attack. It's of the same level of exercise as 400m hurdles and squash...
BTW, I genuinely suggest you don't start skipping yet, if you hurt after a long walk. Skipping will give you a heart attack. It's of the same level of exercise as 400m hurdles and squash...
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Ozzy checked it after I got back to my desk after posting the above at lunch time as I had realised it wasn't 3 miles, worked out on streetmap it was about 2.4 miles and yes I was going quite quick, used to walking very fast for the train when I was running late
Cheers Brendan, well perhaps the skipping just for a few minutes to see how it goes. Wont be trying that until the weekend now anyway as haven't got a skipping rope.
Cheers Brendan, well perhaps the skipping just for a few minutes to see how it goes. Wont be trying that until the weekend now anyway as haven't got a skipping rope.
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To be honest, if you would rather turn your fat into muscle it is much better than running. Running is actually the worst way to loose weight as your body takes about 8+ months to adjust to the oxygen debt made by running, brisk walking is actually better.
Buy a bench for about £20 and then some weights (bar + dumbells) for about £50.
When you get home from work give yourself a break then do about a 45 minute session off brisk walking making sure you take fairly large strides (preferably slightly uphill) then come home and eat youe dinner then spend about an hour weight training your upper body.
ps. pm if you want any more advice as it is more conveniant. hope ive helped
Buy a bench for about £20 and then some weights (bar + dumbells) for about £50.
When you get home from work give yourself a break then do about a 45 minute session off brisk walking making sure you take fairly large strides (preferably slightly uphill) then come home and eat youe dinner then spend about an hour weight training your upper body.
ps. pm if you want any more advice as it is more conveniant. hope ive helped
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Originally Posted by Ver.4
To be honest, if you would rather turn your fat into muscle it is much better than running.
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Originally Posted by **************
well perhaps the skipping just for a few minutes to see how it goes.
Put it on your list of targets. "10 November, start skipping. By that time, need to have achieved (XYZ)"
Remember - go like hell, and you'll soon get there
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I'm assuming your working in London, could you get off one tube stop earlier in the morning and return one stop further out each day for a week or so, then make it two stops etc etc?
Could carry your work shoes and walk in trainers ?
regards,
Greg
Could carry your work shoes and walk in trainers ?
regards,
Greg
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Regards the rowing machine if you still want to go that way, I suggest the cheaper air or air/mag rowers are quite adequate - but don't go for a pure magnetic one. I got one of the delta air/mag combo rowers new for about £200 from a place in Charring Cross, plus a cheap polar heart rate monitor for about £25. Still use it fairly regularly, as I have it in front of a TV. E.g. tonight I rowed for duration of "never mind the buzzcocks". I tend to aim for slightly higher heart rates than pure fat burn as my aim is to building fitness - typically 150-160 averaged over up to 30 minutes (31 years old, 6', presently around 11 1/2 stone). Also do sit-ups/press-ups etc in front of the TV occassionally, building numbers up (set targets to motivate yourself - I'm presently aiming for doing 100 press-ups consecutive, having made to to 500 sit-ups last week)
One of the best things I did earlier in the year for fitness is hill walking. I've done a few bigish walks - up to around 16 miles over the breckon beacons for example. Once a week, after a couple of months it doesn't half help your fitness. Once in shape I'd aim for (and normally achieve) 4mph+ average - that normally involved really working at the climbs, fast walking on the flat bits, and running downhill when path/conditions etc allowed.
The other thing I think helps weight loss is drinking a lot of water. Especially if you're replacing coke/lemonade or similar with water - less calories, helps your body flush out all sorts etc. I always drink at least 1 litre at lunch time, and aim for at least as much again during a working day, plus plenty of healthy type fluids at home in the evenings. Works for me, anyway - I normally find that if I decide I really need to lose weight, I can easily drop a couple of pounds a week by eating right, exercising as above and drinking lots of water - but it requires willpower to say "no" to all the snacks.
Those are the things that work for me. Not necessarily scientific, just personal experience - and considering I have been a couple of stone heavier than I am now, and haven't had a day sick off work in 10 years, I guess I'm doing something about right.
One of the best things I did earlier in the year for fitness is hill walking. I've done a few bigish walks - up to around 16 miles over the breckon beacons for example. Once a week, after a couple of months it doesn't half help your fitness. Once in shape I'd aim for (and normally achieve) 4mph+ average - that normally involved really working at the climbs, fast walking on the flat bits, and running downhill when path/conditions etc allowed.
The other thing I think helps weight loss is drinking a lot of water. Especially if you're replacing coke/lemonade or similar with water - less calories, helps your body flush out all sorts etc. I always drink at least 1 litre at lunch time, and aim for at least as much again during a working day, plus plenty of healthy type fluids at home in the evenings. Works for me, anyway - I normally find that if I decide I really need to lose weight, I can easily drop a couple of pounds a week by eating right, exercising as above and drinking lots of water - but it requires willpower to say "no" to all the snacks.
Those are the things that work for me. Not necessarily scientific, just personal experience - and considering I have been a couple of stone heavier than I am now, and haven't had a day sick off work in 10 years, I guess I'm doing something about right.
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Why don't you give up playing footy on the Xbox and start playing it for real instead ?
Seriously though good for you for wanting to do something positive about your lifestyle
I did myself once (lost over 4 stone) and its amazing how different you feel. Its like your a new person . Stick with it mate . I know its difficult at first but trust me WHEN you get there its such a good feeling
Oh and by the way !
I'd kick your ar$e in real life football too ...
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Why don't you give up playing footy on the Xbox and start playing it for real instead ?
Seriously though good for you for wanting to do something positive about your lifestyle
I did myself once (lost over 4 stone) and its amazing how different you feel. Its like your a new person . Stick with it mate . I know its difficult at first but trust me WHEN you get there its such a good feeling
Oh and by the way !
I'd kick your ar$e in real life football too ...
Niall
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lol Brendan yes I did need a kick up the butt but I think thats come in embarrassing myself on here by admitting I haven't done anything since I first asked for advice. ....
If you ask in a month then I guarantee my answer will be different mate
If you ask in a month then I guarantee my answer will be different mate
EDIT - actually, I know this is really unfair as you've just had a newborn and have been asking about a hernia. But did you manage to make a bit of progress before that?
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*ahem* yep I am running 10 miles a day, not touching any chocolate, only eat raw vegetables and have joined Greenpeace and now drive a 2CV
You git what did you do put a reminder in your Outlook calendar or something? My, doesn't time fly! Since the arrival of mini B2Z I have been running up and down the stairs a lot! Does that count? Will be doing a lot more walking though soon, just been waiting for the Mrs to get better from the birth and hopefully going to go out for a nice long walk this weekend (providing the weather is dry). As for during the week not had time for anything - either been at work or knackered as soon as I walk in the door - even too knackered/busy to play xbox/ps2
New years resolution will be the excersise thing though as the giving up smoking one has already been accomplished and beer drinking is down to minimal amounts Still got to sort out the chocolate addiction though as thats the hardest bit, giving up smoking was a doddle in comparison.
Oops edit as just seen your edit lol - yes at the time of the post I did make a concerted effort with my diet for a couple of weeks although the excercise didn't really happen, but got so stressed worrying about the Mrs and and the birth that I was smoking loads and comfort eating and thought at this time there is no point me trying to achieve anything as I've got nothing else on my mind apart from worrying about the Mrs and baby. I will do the excersise thing as it will be pointless giving up smoking for health reasons if I don't follow it with a better diet and excersise. Just wanted to get the rest of this year out the way (change of job next week) and then start with a fresh mind after Christmas
You git what did you do put a reminder in your Outlook calendar or something? My, doesn't time fly! Since the arrival of mini B2Z I have been running up and down the stairs a lot! Does that count? Will be doing a lot more walking though soon, just been waiting for the Mrs to get better from the birth and hopefully going to go out for a nice long walk this weekend (providing the weather is dry). As for during the week not had time for anything - either been at work or knackered as soon as I walk in the door - even too knackered/busy to play xbox/ps2
New years resolution will be the excersise thing though as the giving up smoking one has already been accomplished and beer drinking is down to minimal amounts Still got to sort out the chocolate addiction though as thats the hardest bit, giving up smoking was a doddle in comparison.
Oops edit as just seen your edit lol - yes at the time of the post I did make a concerted effort with my diet for a couple of weeks although the excercise didn't really happen, but got so stressed worrying about the Mrs and and the birth that I was smoking loads and comfort eating and thought at this time there is no point me trying to achieve anything as I've got nothing else on my mind apart from worrying about the Mrs and baby. I will do the excersise thing as it will be pointless giving up smoking for health reasons if I don't follow it with a better diet and excersise. Just wanted to get the rest of this year out the way (change of job next week) and then start with a fresh mind after Christmas
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B2Z, if you are getting chest pains then you really should tell the doctor and have that properly checked out. Probably to do with your reflux problem or whatever but better to check it anyway.
The only way out is your diet, not smoking, and exercise. I think it is very important that you don't go overboard on the exercise to begin with-just ease into it gently.
My diet was like yours and there is no doubt that coupled with smoking that caused my medical problems. It creeps up on you.
I modified my diet avoiding sat fats etc and sugar and also did the Atkins for long enough to get 2.5 stone off. It is hard to begin with but after a while the cravings go and it is easy to keep on a sensible diet. I quite enjoy what I allow myself to eat now, not too restricted but I eat much less than before. The total cholesterol went from just over 6 to 2.75.
I can't do much exercise because of my damaged hip but do what I can until it gets too painful. Some hobby which makes you have to move about a bit helps a lot.
Its hard to do but you could be a new man in 6 months.
Les
B2Z, if you are getting chest pains then you really should tell the doctor and have that properly checked out. Probably to do with your reflux problem or whatever but better to check it anyway.
The only way out is your diet, not smoking, and exercise. I think it is very important that you don't go overboard on the exercise to begin with-just ease into it gently.
My diet was like yours and there is no doubt that coupled with smoking that caused my medical problems. It creeps up on you.
I modified my diet avoiding sat fats etc and sugar and also did the Atkins for long enough to get 2.5 stone off. It is hard to begin with but after a while the cravings go and it is easy to keep on a sensible diet. I quite enjoy what I allow myself to eat now, not too restricted but I eat much less than before. The total cholesterol went from just over 6 to 2.75.
I can't do much exercise because of my damaged hip but do what I can until it gets too painful. Some hobby which makes you have to move about a bit helps a lot.
Its hard to do but you could be a new man in 6 months.
Les
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Hey, It's Because I Care
Love the 2cv comment
The irony is, the one thing I haven't got the willpower to do is GET OFF SN AND DO SOME WORK! I'd feel a bit unloved if every time I came on here, everyone told me to F Off and work.
I also get no exercise whatsoever, but my diet's not bad so perhaps I don't have such motivation to start. I think it's my mind that suffers - lack of concentration etc.
(OTOH, have been digging around tree roots for the last week, that's a bit of fitness . Bloody horrible job.)
Looking forward to when the puppy is fully vaccinated and we can take him for walks longer than the circuit of 40 yards around the house!
Love the 2cv comment
The irony is, the one thing I haven't got the willpower to do is GET OFF SN AND DO SOME WORK! I'd feel a bit unloved if every time I came on here, everyone told me to F Off and work.
I also get no exercise whatsoever, but my diet's not bad so perhaps I don't have such motivation to start. I think it's my mind that suffers - lack of concentration etc.
(OTOH, have been digging around tree roots for the last week, that's a bit of fitness . Bloody horrible job.)
Looking forward to when the puppy is fully vaccinated and we can take him for walks longer than the circuit of 40 yards around the house!
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It creeps up on you
As for the chest pains, had them for years, all put down to stress after having loads of tests done, nothing they said they could do for that apart from telling me to calm down a lot lol and do some excersise. Probably the stomach thing they are checking now is stress related as I was in melt down worrying that much about the mrs and baby for the last few weeks of the pregnancy due to previous experiences. Now stressed about starting new job next week lol, hence get Xmas out the way and start a fresh with hopefully nothing to get stressed about
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Brendan yeah gardening is something I need to do, been in the house since August and not even started on the garden yet Thats gonna take some sorting but like you find it uninspirational!
Don't mention puppies! The Mrs wants one after my mum said yesterday she was getting one - started the Mrs right off again lol, got enough as it is with 1 baby, 2 rabbits and 5 rats However it would make me get out and walk every day.
Don't mention puppies! The Mrs wants one after my mum said yesterday she was getting one - started the Mrs right off again lol, got enough as it is with 1 baby, 2 rabbits and 5 rats However it would make me get out and walk every day.
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You suddenly find it pretty inspirational when all your toilets are blocked and you find that someone appears to have planted a massive tree directly on top of your drains service hatch, I can tell you!
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All understood, well its down to you to build up a rsistance to the stress, I had a load of that too a few years ago. I was given good advice by a pretty sharp doctor that I had to do it for myself. That was hard too but it gets easier every day. Just have to learn how to stay laid back. Trouble is, once you have hacked it, its hard to stay awake!
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So how is the exercise regime going B2Z??
I assume you didn't need the skipping rope (in mint condition, original packaging ) and the rowing machine (expensive baby playmat hanger)
I assume you didn't need the skipping rope (in mint condition, original packaging ) and the rowing machine (expensive baby playmat hanger)