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Old 04 October 2004, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by suprabeast
does the speed of light vary depending upon what medium it is travelling through??
Yes it does. It doesn't travel very far through my curtains
Old 04 October 2004, 04:05 PM
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Because we can use mathematics for theorical equation like the posed question - hence theory of relativity.


Or stop smoking dope, and get out more - so I am told by my colleagues
Old 04 October 2004, 04:05 PM
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If it were possible to accelerate yourself in your car to the speed of light wither you can see your headlights may be the least of your worries, as anything with infinite mass would have infinite gravitational force so you would become the centre of the universe! or at least attract it to you! Interesting thought!

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Old 04 October 2004, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 106rallye
If it were possible to accelerate yourself in your car to the speed of light wether you can see your headlights may be the least of your worries, as anything with infinate mass would have infinate gravitational force so you would become the centre of the universe! interesting thought!

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You mean you'd be in a BMW ?

Old 04 October 2004, 04:08 PM
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guys guys guys - everyone knows that darkness travels quicker than light. That is how it always gets there first.

Now - somebody shut the door - you are letting the cold in
Old 04 October 2004, 04:09 PM
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Jasey - I'm about to scare you


http://www.einsteinsauto.com/

bmw repair centre
Old 04 October 2004, 04:09 PM
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not sure if this has already been said, but in your frame of reference, relative to you the headlights operate as normal.

i hope my university physics knowledge hasn't fallen out of my head, but i think it was einstiens something or another scenario that addressed this paradox (a man shaving, travelling at the speed of light holding a mirror)...
Old 04 October 2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by akshay67
not sure if this has already been said, but in your frame of reference, relative to you the headlights operate as normal.
Only in so far ar they would appear "on", iirc. They wouldn't actually *do* anything...
Old 04 October 2004, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by akshay67
not sure if this has already been said, but in your frame of reference, relative to you the headlights operate as normal.

i hope my university physics knowledge hasn't fallen out of my head, but i think it was einstiens something or another scenario that addressed this paradox (a man shaving, travelling at the speed of light holding a mirror)...

If you can travel at the speed of light you would think that shaving without a mirror would be a breeze
Old 04 October 2004, 04:14 PM
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Agree with telboy - there is nothing to distribute light against or reflect apart from the glass of the bulb and lamp holder.
Old 04 October 2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Only in so far ar they would appear "on", iirc. They wouldn't actually *do* anything...

how would you know they are/appear to be on anyway?
Old 04 October 2004, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Jasey - I'm about to scare you


http://www.einsteinsauto.com/

bmw repair centre
Nothing BMW "Enthusiasts" do scares me - although you were maybe a little quick with the link .
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Theres a small light on your dash with a bulb icon.


Also if you use the Bright button would that accelerate light particles.
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
how would you know they are/appear to be on anyway?
Cos a little light on the dash board would tell you
Old 04 October 2004, 04:18 PM
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So - getting back to the original question - the answer is NO
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The fact that 2 above posts came in at exacly the same time, yet mine appeared first proves there are faults toevery theory, time being constant is one of them.
Old 04 October 2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Theres a small light on your dash with a bulb icon.


Also if you use the Bright button would that accelerate light particles.

Would you be able to see the light on the dashboard?
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The answer is NO in theory
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Originally Posted by lightning101
Agree with telboy - there is nothing to distribute light against or reflect apart from the glass of the bulb and lamp holder.
where are you getting this knowledge from??

in your frame of reference, i.e. in the car, you will still measure the headlight speed as c.

to an external observer (i.e. outside your frame of reference), will also measure the speed of headlights as c.

this is because length and time are not fixed concepts: the lengh of the car will be shorter and the passage of time on board the car will be slower...
Old 04 October 2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lightning101
The fact that 2 above posts came in at exacly the same time, yet mine appeared first proves there are faults toevery theory, time being constant is one of them.
As do the next two posts
Old 04 October 2004, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by akshay67
where are you getting this knowledge from??

in your frame of reference, i.e. in the car, you will still measure the headlight speed as c.

to an external observer (i.e. outside your frame of reference), will also measure the speed of headlights as c.

this is because length and time are not fixed concepts: the lengh of the car will be shorter and the passage of time on board the car will be slower...

erm - I think he is referring to the fact that he is more than likely travelling through space, so there would be nothing in front of him to light up

(or at least, there wouldn't be for very long)
Old 04 October 2004, 04:21 PM
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Yes you would see everything in the car as they are travelling at a constant speed - including you.

Also the car is full of reflective surfaces.

What you would need is a couple of sheets of paper in front of your lights to solve the problem
Old 04 October 2004, 04:22 PM
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Einstein did have a bit of a caveat for the mass problems. (Relativity)

Let's say they weren't an issue. (which i did intimate with my comment (it's theoretical).
Old 04 October 2004, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
erm - I think he is referring to the fact that he is more than likely travelling through space, so there would be nothing in front of him to light up

(or at least, there wouldn't be for very long)
Yes there would - it takes a fair while for light to travel across the universe - even allowing for the speed cameras - at least they wouldn't ******* work .
Old 04 October 2004, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
erm - I think he is referring to the fact that he is more than likely travelling through space, so there would be nothing in front of him to light up

(or at least, there wouldn't be for very long)
oh!

;-)
Old 04 October 2004, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by papascooby
Einstein did have a bit of a caveat for the mass problems. (Relativity)

Let's say they weren't an issue. (which i did intimate with my comment (it's theoretical).
Right...so the question is the same as though your car was stationary in space...
Old 04 October 2004, 04:33 PM
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Just lift off a bit.

Works for me
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I bet that the light would leave the bulbs at the speed of light and would travel in front of the car at twice the speed of light relative to space!

Les
Old 04 October 2004, 05:05 PM
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If the light doesn't come out when you are at the speed of light, what would happen if you then braked suddenly? Would it just fall into a (bright) heap in front of you?
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It would be dark.


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