happy ramadhan mubarak
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Originally Posted by moses
it doesnt say night in the quran mate, theirs a verse about it
and also i will try to find some posts and questions on it, been asked to the scholars and their have been answers give me a day or 2 will try to find u all the questions asked
and also i will try to find some posts and questions on it, been asked to the scholars and their have been answers give me a day or 2 will try to find u all the questions asked
also in the future submit your questions here, their a few scholars but all scholars come in different degrees and wisdom some are better and some aint, best ask a few scholars
here is one
http://islamonline.net/fatwaapplicat...ish/browse.asp
it gets very busy here but u can submit any questions u want
i always ask them silly questions, they think im mad
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carl theirs usually a day apart , not the same date, its the difference of days or hours
usa will be different from australia and the middle east etc etc
and also in islam the world was always round, u guys only found out less than a few hundred yrs ago we knew that over 1400 yrs ago
about the ozone layer the lot, the world dahaha in the quran is a classical word for egg in arabic the world is egg shaped as in oval which is true and not flat
and about penetration of the sky how hard it can be to get out of the layer in the sky to go to space etc and it didnt say u cant get their and God says only by Gods leave or permission or if God wishes, that was impossible in old christianity and judaism.
usa will be different from australia and the middle east etc etc
and also in islam the world was always round, u guys only found out less than a few hundred yrs ago we knew that over 1400 yrs ago
about the ozone layer the lot, the world dahaha in the quran is a classical word for egg in arabic the world is egg shaped as in oval which is true and not flat
and about penetration of the sky how hard it can be to get out of the layer in the sky to go to space etc and it didnt say u cant get their and God says only by Gods leave or permission or if God wishes, that was impossible in old christianity and judaism.
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carl do try them
i asked them a question once , i luv my first wife she is my first and last and i asked them if i can have another 3 wives for 2 months and divorce one and get another and does the 1st wife need to find out hahaa, scholar thought i was messed in the head, but he was nice about it
he said something funny to me he said wives are for life not just for xmas
and u cant misuse a wife and u have to be equel with them and if they want a house u need to buy them a house and support them financially the lot, well it put me off, i dont have enuff to support 4 wives and 4 houses man, i will be bankrupt
i asked them a question once , i luv my first wife she is my first and last and i asked them if i can have another 3 wives for 2 months and divorce one and get another and does the 1st wife need to find out hahaa, scholar thought i was messed in the head, but he was nice about it
he said something funny to me he said wives are for life not just for xmas
and u cant misuse a wife and u have to be equel with them and if they want a house u need to buy them a house and support them financially the lot, well it put me off, i dont have enuff to support 4 wives and 4 houses man, i will be bankrupt
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http://www.beconvinced.com/science/QURANSEQUENCE.htm
http://www.beconvinced.com/science/QURANEXPANSION.htm
http://www.beconvinced.com/science/QURANEARTHSHP.htm
have a read at this book its good
http://www.harunyahya.com/tellmeaboutthecreation01.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/create01.php
http://www.beconvinced.com/science/QURANEXPANSION.htm
http://www.beconvinced.com/science/QURANEARTHSHP.htm
have a read at this book its good
http://www.harunyahya.com/tellmeaboutthecreation01.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/create01.php
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carl theirs usually a day apart , not the same date, its the difference of days or hours
So you could get two places where at one of them new moon is a minute before sunset, and at the other it's a minute after. These places would only have to be around 100 miles apart, and in one Ramadan would start the day after the other. I think they get around this by declaring it to start on a particular day in a particular country, but it's still not perfect, particularly in countries that aren't islands.
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good question carl, i im not a lunar expert my friend but def a good question, maybe aaquil would be able to answer that but if u do get through tomorrow at the scholars do post it to them and i will find out the other queries i did have a look at them last yr, really good questions and all of them were answered
and also i will try to get an email of a islamic scholar who happens to be a scientist
cheers
also check this site out he is a scientist
http://www.harunyahya.com
also his other site
http://www.darwinism-watch.com/
and also i will try to get an email of a islamic scholar who happens to be a scientist
cheers
also check this site out he is a scientist
http://www.harunyahya.com
also his other site
http://www.darwinism-watch.com/
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Originally Posted by moses
and also i will try to get an email of a islamic scholar who happens to be a scientist
cheers
also check this site out he is a scientist
http://www.harunyahya.com
also his other site
http://www.darwinism-watch.com/
cheers
also check this site out he is a scientist
http://www.harunyahya.com
also his other site
http://www.darwinism-watch.com/
New thread for this one probably, but it is my view that a creationist can never be a true scientist because their objectivity is marred by things they must accept rather than prove for themselves.
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carl i dont know if this is the official site of shabir ally, if it is, he is one of the best in science and debates
he is the man evangelist pat robertson and billy grahams son franklin graham had cold feet over for a debate
http://www.shabirally.com/about.asp
his site used to be different
if u can email him, he is cool he is canadian, he has been to scotland and england a few times, he was awesome he rocks
he is the man evangelist pat robertson and billy grahams son franklin graham had cold feet over for a debate
http://www.shabirally.com/about.asp
his site used to be different
if u can email him, he is cool he is canadian, he has been to scotland and england a few times, he was awesome he rocks
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thanks bud
and if u go to shabir allys website their are videos u can watch online
im watching abraham, ishmael and isaac, the story of the jews and muslims , the 2 brothers and the land
its cool , never seen it before
im off to watch it
sweet dreams
and if u go to shabir allys website their are videos u can watch online
im watching abraham, ishmael and isaac, the story of the jews and muslims , the 2 brothers and the land
its cool , never seen it before
im off to watch it
sweet dreams
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Originally Posted by moses
and yes its a sin to kill anyone in the month of ramadhan,
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Er just curious, so it's not a sin to kill outside ramadhan ? Sheesh - better take the pi** out of moses for the next month and then keep my big gob shut
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A question on that site you linked to Moses reminded me of a genuine religious question once asked by Bill Hicks. By the way, this question is for people of all religions not just Moses...
Not trying to hijack the thread.
If life on earth began with Gods creation of man. Where did Dinosaurs come from?
Not trying to hijack the thread.
If life on earth began with Gods creation of man. Where did Dinosaurs come from?
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Originally Posted by Muffleman
Er just curious, so it's not a sin to kill outside ramadhan ? Sheesh - better take the pi** out of moses for the next month and then keep my big gob shut
"God angrily clarifies "Don't Kill" rule."
The story was written as an interview with God and he was saying..
" I don't know where people get this idea that its OK to kill people in my name. I never said that, take a look for yourself!"..
Really funny read if you can dig it out.
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What a strange question to ask on this thread PSL, would have been more tactful to start another thread for that I reckon.
Best wishes to you Moses, I'm sure you will be stronger in all ways when it is finished.
Les
Best wishes to you Moses, I'm sure you will be stronger in all ways when it is finished.
Les
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Well ramadan started today in Japan. I've been asking a friend here what the rules are. Maybe you can confirm this for me moses...
...in addition to not giving in to temptation for food and drink, you also have to not give in to temptation of the urmmm physical kind? How do I put this delicately, nightime nookie only?
...in addition to not giving in to temptation for food and drink, you also have to not give in to temptation of the urmmm physical kind? How do I put this delicately, nightime nookie only?
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....which brings me to my greatest foot in mouth incident - possibly of all time.
I have a very genuine interest in finding out about all differnt types of religion and religious customs. Several years ago I found myself chatting to a Muslim about Ramadan and asking them all about it. They explain that because it's based around a lunar cycle it actually moves 4 days forward each year.
"So" I ask them "When does Ramadan start this year?"
"December 23rd" they answer
"Wow" I exclaim "That's a bit of a bugger for Christmas eh?"
Luckily they thought it was really funny - needless to say I was mortified!
Happy Ramadan one and all!
I have a very genuine interest in finding out about all differnt types of religion and religious customs. Several years ago I found myself chatting to a Muslim about Ramadan and asking them all about it. They explain that because it's based around a lunar cycle it actually moves 4 days forward each year.
"So" I ask them "When does Ramadan start this year?"
"December 23rd" they answer
"Wow" I exclaim "That's a bit of a bugger for Christmas eh?"
Luckily they thought it was really funny - needless to say I was mortified!
Happy Ramadan one and all!
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Originally Posted by Drunken Bungle *****
....which brings me to my greatest foot in mouth incident - possibly of all time.
I have a very genuine interest in finding out about all differnt types of religion and religious customs. Several years ago I found myself chatting to a Muslim about Ramadan and asking them all about it. They explain that because it's based around a lunar cycle it actually moves 4 days forward each year.
"So" I ask them "When does Ramadan start this year?"
"December 23rd" they answer
"Wow" I exclaim "That's a bit of a bugger for Christmas eh?"
Luckily they thought it was really funny - needless to say I was mortified!
Happy Ramadan one and all!
I have a very genuine interest in finding out about all differnt types of religion and religious customs. Several years ago I found myself chatting to a Muslim about Ramadan and asking them all about it. They explain that because it's based around a lunar cycle it actually moves 4 days forward each year.
"So" I ask them "When does Ramadan start this year?"
"December 23rd" they answer
"Wow" I exclaim "That's a bit of a bugger for Christmas eh?"
Luckily they thought it was really funny - needless to say I was mortified!
Happy Ramadan one and all!
PS Moses, I missed saying in the last post, Happy Ramadam
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thanks drunk bungled and hows the main man steve
say hello to him
brit in japan cheers u too and yes no nookie only at night and u must have a bath of course as always but before sunrise
leslie u too, your a good man only if i was patient as u, keep it real God bless u and your family
lol @ john banks haha mate what r u gonna do with my evo engine, u cant fit it in your scoob surely , but will give u a shot once its back and thats if its back this yr and thanks
and ted maul cheers and yom kippur war i remember it but i wont say nothing in anger in this thread
and angrynorth, im not a scholar but as long as i remember the world was here before our father adam, yes so dinosaurs are cool. it says in the quran the universe or galaxy or something was one, i havent memorized the whole verse and God teared or tored them assunder, basically the big bang was in the quran long long time ago
and their is a verse in the quran that God offered the responsiblities of the earth to the elements and mountains etc etc and they refused coz surely they cannot look after them as God can, but the man ( human being) did and God says the man overestimated himself or over estimates himself and they took it on, basically u see what the man done to the earth
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brit in japan cheers u too and yes no nookie only at night and u must have a bath of course as always but before sunrise
leslie u too, your a good man only if i was patient as u, keep it real God bless u and your family
lol @ john banks haha mate what r u gonna do with my evo engine, u cant fit it in your scoob surely , but will give u a shot once its back and thats if its back this yr and thanks
and ted maul cheers and yom kippur war i remember it but i wont say nothing in anger in this thread
and angrynorth, im not a scholar but as long as i remember the world was here before our father adam, yes so dinosaurs are cool. it says in the quran the universe or galaxy or something was one, i havent memorized the whole verse and God teared or tored them assunder, basically the big bang was in the quran long long time ago
and their is a verse in the quran that God offered the responsiblities of the earth to the elements and mountains etc etc and they refused coz surely they cannot look after them as God can, but the man ( human being) did and God says the man overestimated himself or over estimates himself and they took it on, basically u see what the man done to the earth
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Moses, enjoy the Festival !
I was reading about it the other day, is it me or are there agreat many get out clauses for the fasting bit, I couldnt do it so I am not having a go but it was saying that if you eat (by mistake) then Allah meant you to eat, bit confused but then again non of your Anglo Saxon adopted Pagan type things include fasting, mainly eating, Watching Only Fools and Horses, more eating and burning stuff.
I was reading about it the other day, is it me or are there agreat many get out clauses for the fasting bit, I couldnt do it so I am not having a go but it was saying that if you eat (by mistake) then Allah meant you to eat, bit confused but then again non of your Anglo Saxon adopted Pagan type things include fasting, mainly eating, Watching Only Fools and Horses, more eating and burning stuff.
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Oh and is it at the end of Ramadam(Eid) that all the car rental companies get a bit cagey about renting cars to Asian Guys ?
I think Scoobynet should honour this festival in some way, us standard white anglo saxon agnostic/atheist IT bods get lights at Christmas !
I think Scoobynet should honour this festival in some way, us standard white anglo saxon agnostic/atheist IT bods get lights at Christmas !
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lol jacko haha cheers mate
no no u cant eat, but if u eat by mistake , u are forgiven coz it wasnt your intention but u continue to fast
and jacko car rental guys do, im not surprised, see the gangs hire them out and trash them, sick lil ***** they are, its supposed to be a holy day and some asian lads go and mess around and party, they know nothing about islam , u should see blackpool on eid day, see im from scotland i had a culture shock, english asian lads are totally screwed day and nights difference between us scots and u english lot
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here have a look
http://www.islam101.com/science/bucaille.html
no no u cant eat, but if u eat by mistake , u are forgiven coz it wasnt your intention but u continue to fast
and jacko car rental guys do, im not surprised, see the gangs hire them out and trash them, sick lil ***** they are, its supposed to be a holy day and some asian lads go and mess around and party, they know nothing about islam , u should see blackpool on eid day, see im from scotland i had a culture shock, english asian lads are totally screwed day and nights difference between us scots and u english lot
and angrynorth
here have a look
http://www.islam101.com/science/bucaille.html
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Oops, just eaten, Chicken Chilli Massala, purely by accident you understand !
Also, it said Muslims must refrain from any kind of sexual activity during daylight hours, does that mean its party time at night ?
Is it a coincidence that Ramadam (fasting and no ********) occurs at the end of British Summer time when the days are getting shorter.....
Also, it said Muslims must refrain from any kind of sexual activity during daylight hours, does that mean its party time at night ?
Is it a coincidence that Ramadam (fasting and no ********) occurs at the end of British Summer time when the days are getting shorter.....
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Unfortunately in some cases it is with alcohol and worse what happens there is nothing to do with Islaam just Pakistanis, Bengalis etc. getting out of hand and making the Muslims as a whole look stupid!!!
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true bros
and jack u taking the mick
no party time and its make luv time with the wife wish is pure and yes we have fasts in summertime like i said previously, when i was a kid it was in summer time
i went to rushholme twice again what a shock aint seen so many asians in my life except in pakistan and also the amount of takeaways and restaurants, man, how do they survive alot of competition
and jack u taking the mick
no party time and its make luv time with the wife wish is pure and yes we have fasts in summertime like i said previously, when i was a kid it was in summer time
i went to rushholme twice again what a shock aint seen so many asians in my life except in pakistan and also the amount of takeaways and restaurants, man, how do they survive alot of competition