Why all the Fuss about a few troops deploying?
22 October 2004, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chins
Only 6 years of hard cleaning and trips to the South Atlantic 
The Senior Service is a better place without me, at least the weapons systems have a better chance of working
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The Senior Service is a better place without me, at least the weapons systems have a better chance of working
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22 October 2004, 11:54 PM
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The thing i dont like is they are sent in there, chance's are some will be killed.
Then on returning home they will probably be told the BlackWatch are to be disbanded. (if thats the right word)
Then on returning home they will probably be told the BlackWatch are to be disbanded. (if thats the right word)
23 October 2004, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerome
What ships did you serve on? Anything with Seawolf?
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23 October 2004, 08:14 AM
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whats the fuss in the papers, media etc.
The reason the whole issue of this particular troop movement became more news-worthy than any other in Iraq, was because the British troops were going to be under US command.
23 October 2004, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammy Hamster
To answer your original question...
The reason the whole issue of this particular troop movement became more news-worthy than any other in Iraq, was because the British troops were going to be under US command.
The reason the whole issue of this particular troop movement became more news-worthy than any other in Iraq, was because the British troops were going to be under US command.
23 October 2004, 09:08 AM
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But not the sort of choice of command I would make! I think the reason for the publicity is more likely to be the extra danger they will be in because of the US attitude towards the Iraqi civilians and our troops will be associated with all that as well.
We may well be more susceptible to terrorist attacks and hostage taking because of it too!
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We may well be more susceptible to terrorist attacks and hostage taking because of it too!
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23 October 2004, 12:57 PM
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Get ready for more british civilians being kidnapped.
Tony Blair has got us in this mess and is struggling to get us out.....unfortunately there is a huge price to pay in lives and this is the start of it.
Tony Blair has got us in this mess and is struggling to get us out.....unfortunately there is a huge price to pay in lives and this is the start of it.
23 October 2004, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by class_A
But yes, the timing is obviously just coincidental
23 October 2004, 09:12 PM
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We know there is always an agenda behind these things. They say is 'purely an operational decision' so we know for sure that it's *not* that. 
What really annoys me about this is the fact that Hoon is going to sack these guys after he has put them in harms way for soley *political* reasons. Bah!! to the New Labour scumbags I say.... 
UB
What really annoys me about this is the fact that Hoon is going to sack these guys after he has put them in harms way for soley *political* reasons. Bah!! to the New Labour scumbags I say.... UB
23 October 2004, 10:02 PM
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Of course it isn't an operational decision!
What valid operational reason is there to move 800 UK infantry into an area already teeming with US troops?
@Chins - I see that you were never exactly in the thick of the action....
I bet your family would of been extremely worried if you had been! Especially if there had been political motivations...
What valid operational reason is there to move 800 UK infantry into an area already teeming with US troops?
@Chins - I see that you were never exactly in the thick of the action....
I bet your family would of been extremely worried if you had been! Especially if there had been political motivations...
23 October 2004, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro_79
Of course it isn't an operational decision!
What valid operational reason is there to move 800 UK infantry into an area already teeming with US troops?
@Chins - I see that you were never exactly in the thick of the action....
I bet your family would of been extremely worried if you had been! Especially if there had been political motivations...
What valid operational reason is there to move 800 UK infantry into an area already teeming with US troops?
@Chins - I see that you were never exactly in the thick of the action....
I bet your family would of been extremely worried if you had been! Especially if there had been political motivations...
Been somewhere South though. Few sailors lost their life there. Our missile system was booted by paper tape Just coz your a matlow doesnt mean your always at sea, so I wouldnt jump to conclusions even if you might be right. I even had to carry out peace keeping duties - the Bennys are a dangerous lot
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23 October 2004, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chins
Not in the Gulf, I'm too old Been somewhere South though. Few sailors lost their life there. Our missile system was booted by paper tape Just coz your a matlow doesnt mean your always at sea, so I wouldnt jump to conclusions even if you might be right. I even had to carry out peace keeping duties - the Bennys are a dangerous lot
Been somewhere South though. Few sailors lost their life there. Our missile system was booted by paper tape Just coz your a matlow doesnt mean your always at sea, so I wouldnt jump to conclusions even if you might be right. I even had to carry out peace keeping duties - the Bennys are a dangerous lot 
Also, I would say Simon Weston would have something to say about not being in danger on a ship - and he was the lucky one. We lost a lot of sailors in the Falklands War. Furthermore, I also saw some matelots in and around Basra and Um Qasr, so they don't all get to stay on ship.
PS: I know Simon Weston was a Guardsman, but he was on a ship when injured (the Sir Galahad).
23 October 2004, 11:51 PM
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Not jumping to conclusions - just going by what you had said earlier in thread...
Anyway, fair play to you. I spent two weeks on an Island-class, and that very nearly sent me loopy!
BTW Bennys?
Anyway, fair play to you. I spent two weeks on an Island-class, and that very nearly sent me loopy!
BTW Bennys?
23 October 2004, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro_79
Not jumping to conclusions - just going by what you had said earlier in thread...
Anyway, fair play to you. I spent two weeks on an Island-class, and that very nearly sent me loopy!
BTW Bennys?
Anyway, fair play to you. I spent two weeks on an Island-class, and that very nearly sent me loopy!
BTW Bennys?
24 October 2004, 08:38 AM
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You could say that it's a political move by Bush,but the numbers involved will hardly win him any votes.
Personally I think it's more likely that the majority of the US soldiers don't have the same skills as our marines.They have their own special forces too but I think the gist is that these are going to be redeployed and ours are needed to cover.
I bet if you asked the actuall soldiers if they want the move,most would say yes.Soldiers have a different mindset to civilians and accept it's part of the job.I'd even go as far to say that's one of the reasons they stay in it.
One of my best mates is in the marines and I know he'd be itching to go.He's already missed Afghanistan through injury and was very disappointed.
Personally I think it's more likely that the majority of the US soldiers don't have the same skills as our marines.They have their own special forces too but I think the gist is that these are going to be redeployed and ours are needed to cover.
I bet if you asked the actuall soldiers if they want the move,most would say yes.Soldiers have a different mindset to civilians and accept it's part of the job.I'd even go as far to say that's one of the reasons they stay in it.
One of my best mates is in the marines and I know he'd be itching to go.He's already missed Afghanistan through injury and was very disappointed.
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