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Old 07 November 2004, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny gav
alan, last time i was out in your car it was making 1.1 bar boost, when you had it at well lane it was running 1.5 bar.

not sure why the boost had dropped but it looks to me like someone may had adjusted it!

andy set it up at 1.5.
From your description of the fault Jonny, it sounds like a map issue ?
When Harvey brings it up I will compare the on board ECU files with my records and will know instantly if any of the 1000+ parameters have been adjusted

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Old 07 November 2004, 09:11 PM
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Andy No one has done any adjustments !!! Only Jonny has been any were near it with a commandor , That was after the fault , Really looking forward to getting car back Mended and remapped , thanks to Jonny , Harvey and Andy , cheers,
Old 07 November 2004, 09:16 PM
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No problem Alan, Jonny and Harvey will have turned it down a bit as you were catching up with them

As a matter of interest I had a car recently that had similar symptoms to yours, turned out the intercooler had split at the seams

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Old 07 November 2004, 09:36 PM
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No signs of that >> (i HOPE) its a MRT FMIC , >> But you can weld ??? LoL
Old 07 November 2004, 10:51 PM
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i didn't check for that to be honest Andy, may have a look and investigate a bit further this week as it was pi55ing down when i gave the car a going over at Alan's. i could have missed something as i was soaked through to the skin .
Old 08 November 2004, 01:33 AM
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Where did the intercooler come from Alan?
Old 08 November 2004, 07:48 AM
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Got it off Mark at Lateral, Used to be on his car, Its been on for over a Year,
Old 08 November 2004, 08:52 AM
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I will be amazed if the MRT intercooler as split.

Andy, what affects does removing the battery have on the apexi ecu? Or a dead battery?

The last time i drove Alans car it was peaking at about 1.6bar, and then holding 1.5bar in the mid range. I believe it drove like this for 2 weeks subsequently, and then overnight the problem occurred.

I would be interested to hear your findings Andy, primarily for Alans sake, as i know how much pride he has in his car.

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Old 08 November 2004, 10:17 AM
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Removing the battery has no effect, totally flat battery also no problem. I have however heard of one case in Auz where trying to crank it over on a flat battery and the solenoid was chattering in/out that the ECU returned to the base map.
This was a story however that had passed via a few people so may not be very accurate !

Jonnys findings were that it drove normally off boost but the airflow values on boost were excessive and the boost pressure was low, these are the classic signs of an air leak post turbo.

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Old 08 November 2004, 10:23 AM
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The battery was just a thought, as i had the battery off for 1 day while i did the gearbox. Alan also told me that the car had been in storage for a while and the battery was completly dead.

One of the 1st things i asked Alan to ask his garage to check was any leaks from intercooler pipes.

Still be amazed if its the intercooler. Cant have any stone damage due to mesh, or can it?
Old 08 November 2004, 10:46 AM
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well I know for a fact that the ecu hasnt been touched by either of us whilst doing the gearbox.. and theres not much chance of being able to whilst being in a barn.. as Alan will confirm as he was there for a while.. Plug that bale of hay in will you

I hope the posts above arent intended to be aimed at myself or steven.

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Old 08 November 2004, 11:32 AM
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No David lol, if you look at my earlier post it was directly aimed at Jonny and Harvey
Old 08 November 2004, 11:40 AM
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that sounds like a guilty conscience there david

having a good look at the car this afternoon with harvey so will report my findings.
Old 08 November 2004, 11:44 AM
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Posted by Harvey
Your turbo arrived yesterday, noon. The gaskets and nuts came from AS Performance by post this morning. The car will be ready to go to Andy on Monday.
Is that aimed at Alan? If so, i assume you are now going for the 05/06 turbo Alan? or am i just missreading?

Seriously wouldnt do anything untill your problem is sorted.

I thought you might have sorted it by now Andy, you have had the car a week havent you?
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You didn't slip a scoobyecu in there David did you ? when Alan wasn't looking
Old 08 November 2004, 11:47 AM
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I have not seen the car yet Steven, it's coming up to me on Wednesday.
Harvey stated on the 6th Nov he would have it ready from today but I'm tied up until Wed.

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Old 08 November 2004, 11:55 AM
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Scrap that comment, looks like Jonny and Harvey still have it.

Jonny, think David is saying exactly what i am thinking. Your post earlier states that "someone may had adjusted it!", now thats only a may, but i would like to quash any inference that its me or David, who have certainly worked on Alans car, but not touched the ecu.

Its maybe something that has been brewing for a while with his car, i dont know, but when i drove it, i wasnt that impressed with the power, and i expressed this to alan (he had requested my opinion). Comparing his power figures with mine at well lane, IMO his car and my 2.0l were in different leagues. Given the level of boost, it should have felt a lot quicker.

It could well have been that it wasnt performing normally back then, and Alan just didnt notice, he never said anything at the time. In fact after the 6 speed went in, he felt it was a great improvment to his car.

As said earlier, i am really keen to find out what the problem is, as i have done a lot of work on alans car (headers, front mount and 6 speed) and want the problem sorting. I only wish that at the time the problem arose, i had sufficient time in my diary to allow me to go look at it!

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Old 08 November 2004, 11:57 AM
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Ah, see what happens when the phone rings, you finish typing before me

So the post i quoted is to Alan, much clearer now. Can you confirm if he his changing to the TD05/06?
Old 08 November 2004, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Comparing his power figures with mine at well lane, IMO his car and my 2.0l were in different leagues. Given the level of boost, it should have felt a lot quicker.

Steven
Yes they are in different leagues, Alans made more power IIRC
Are you suggesting well lane is not as accurate as your one year old recollection from your butt dyno
Old 08 November 2004, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Your post earlier states that "someone may had adjusted it!", now thats only a may, but i would like to quash any inference that its me or David, who have certainly worked on Alans car, but not touched the ecu.


Steven
My concern was more that Pat had been near it and some of his power sapping abilities had rubbed off on it
Old 08 November 2004, 12:36 PM
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LOL

I meant Alans was slower

Your memory is fading Andy engine blew up in March

My own 2.5 feels slower than the 2.0l!
Old 08 November 2004, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
LOL

engine blew up in March
Well that puts Alans in a different league for sure

Have you identified a common denominator in all these blown up or underperforming engines yet ?

Andy
Old 08 November 2004, 01:56 PM
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Running league, partially running league or non running league.

Go on, tell me what the denominator is

I love your selective quotes, you forgot the "your memory is fading Andy "

Steven
Old 08 November 2004, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Go on, tell me what the denominator is

I love your selective quotes, you forgot the "your memory is fading Andy "

Steven
Errr, I've forgot what, or indeed who it was now
Old 08 November 2004, 02:10 PM
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your memory is fading Andy
Old 08 November 2004, 02:29 PM
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yep he's definatley forgetting something..

David
Old 08 November 2004, 03:39 PM
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I'm working on a V2 swap. It came with a TD05H turbo. I wonder if this is the same TD05H that people here are talking about. I'd describe it as anything but laggy. Comes on boost around 2500 RPM and that's without being mapped yet.

-Michael
Old 08 November 2004, 04:15 PM
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Same turbo Michael, usually around 1 bar boost by 2800/3200 depends on the car.
Old 08 November 2004, 05:05 PM
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steven, think we should have a "YOUR ****" dyno day, then we will all get to know for sure what power our cars really have

didn't find anything new today with alan's car, run both parts of the engine breathing system to the catch tank as only the head breathers were going through it.

also we fitted the 05/06 but the inlet tract was to be finished when i left (sure harvey will have it sorted by now).
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is that a "your ****" or "you're ****" dyno day ?


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