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Old 12 November 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by robby1
yep on the drive broken down dont need aa cover with a scoob,cossis loverly cars though
You are joking right. A few of my friends own or have owned various Impreza's all have proved to be more unreliable and more costly than my friends that have Cossie's. One went from an Escort Cossie to a WRX then he swapped that for a Type R (which he spent a silly amount of cash on to make it quicker) He regretted selling the Cossie and now owns an Evo whilst he hunts out the right Escort Cossie again.

Another friend has a WRX and he has shafted 4 engines in it. This Impreza reliability thing is a myth and the number of them I see regulary on the ramps with melted pistons or various engine failures supports this.
Old 12 November 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Agreed with above.

It's just another case of scoob owning wankery clouding his vision and causing headup4rseitis
Old 12 November 2004 | 02:43 PM
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A trifle harsh chap
Old 12 November 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
What planet are you guys on?

My STANDARD UK Turbo 2000 used to eat Escort Cossies for breakfast!!!! Now I have a STi Type-R V6, 330bhp!

Cossies are a complete pile of typical FORD sh*te! Badly built with only a medicore engine and saved only by a decent turbo! I know as I've driven plenty whilst working in the motor industry!
hahahahaha Dream on boy
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Cobblers mate! I have chewed many a UK Impreza with my tweeked RS Turbo but I wouldn't go chasing most Cossie's because I would almost certainly lose.
Obviously the scooby owners like me cant be arsed racing ****ty rs turbos that have got absolutly no chance.

Me and my mate have built a 1.9 cvh turbo engine which is in his rs turbo. it has

lightened & balanced bottom end
Lightened Flywheel
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Cossey Management

It runs 267bhp i'd say thats more than slightly modified and he will openly admit that i waste him eveytime in my 99 UK Turbo with a full decat.

Am not sayin cosseys are **** cos i would personally have one anyday but the day scooby owners are gonna **** it from an rs turbo is never gonna come!!!!
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the cossie you should have is the 1 i so on the a38 near derdy mk1 escort with the cossie engine in it fek did that thing go
Old 12 November 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby-si
the cossie you should have is the 1 i so on the a38 near derdy mk1 escort with the cossie engine in it fek did that thing go
That'll be Dingy
Old 12 November 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by heple1983

Am not sayin cosseys are **** cos i would personally have one anyday but the day scooby owners are gonna **** it from an rs turbo is never gonna come!!!!
Hmmm I beg to differ and proven
Old 12 November 2004 | 03:24 PM
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There was not a need to be rude I'm far from being an Impreza fan but being on an Impreza enthusiasts site I have resisted cheap snypes and insults. Take your Impreza blinkers off and see daylight once in a while it may suprise you.For sure your chassis is far superior and I wouldn't dream of argueing that. But I think your friend may actually be humouring you! Once rolling he should be all over you like flies round a cow pat.

You should try and race some RS Turbo's. There is a lot of tat about but some like my own may well suprise you.

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Old 12 November 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Ha ha nothing like a Scoob V Cossie thread on a dreary Friday to cheer me up

My 1.6 Civic used to run rings round scoobs/cossies
Old 12 November 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Type R
My 1.6 Civic used to run rings round scoobs/cossies
Funny thing is having seen some silly modded Civic's I'm not prepared to risk doubting you
Old 12 November 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Funny thing is having seen some silly modded Civic's I'm not prepared to risk doubting you
Old 12 November 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
That'll be Dingy
tell you wot he kicked my **** big time




but i was in my 44tonne wagon lol
Old 12 November 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Obviously the scooby owners like me cant be arsed racing ****ty rs turbos that have got absolutly no chance.
now where is that video of a red ERST wasting an Evo on the motorway sliproad? anyone got it?
Old 12 November 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
There was not a need to be rude I'm far from being an Impreza fan but being on an Impreza enthusiasts site I have resisted cheap snypes and insults. Take your Impreza blinkers off and see daylight once in a while it may suprise you.For sure your chassis is far superior and I wouldn't dream of argueing that. But I think your friend may actually be humouring you! Once rolling he should be all over you like flies round a cow pat.

You should try and race some RS Turbo's. There is a lot of tat about but some like my own may well suprise you.
Try racin rs turbos - dont make me laugh.

i raced them day in day out in my astra gsi when i was 18 and still p1ssed on them with that.

All these rs turbo owners think there fast coss they've got a low cost turbo car and they've just sold there nova and bought one.

Its still a just a turbo bolted to an oil burner rollin around on a rust bucket (Must of them runnin 10psi too much on a bleed valve meltin pistons).

Sorry mate just gotta be honest there just not in the same league. (And this is from someone who's worked with cvh turbo's for years).

"I think your friend may actually be humouring you! Once rolling he should be all over you like flies round a cow pat." - U say this but why would he, we both built this car as a project what would be the point if we weren't gonna open it up next to my scooby to see how fast it was!!


Were currently workin on a mk2 escort puttin a cossey in it. now that will be a beast. we may even convert for rallying!!!!

Am Not into slaggin off Fords just heard too may rs turbo owners braggin rediculas speeds/powers and they just aint!!!

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oh look, found it watch the vid, bye bye evo

http://bbs.rsownersclub.co.uk/attach...&postid=430691

and the car in question........


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i wonder how much was invested in this rs and i wonder if the same amount was invested in an EVO which one would win???
Old 12 November 2004 | 07:02 PM
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heple1983 - I apreciate your comment but mine is not your average rat boy car that you seem keen to generalise.

I'm 28 years old and have put a lot of time effort and cash into my car and have achieved results with it. 248bhp with 265lb torque and it has been timed at Bruntingthorpe at 150mph and despite traction issues a fairly respectable 0-60 in 6.2 seconds (with ICE install).

Pissing on RST's with a GSi now you're making me laugh. And I'm fairly fond of the old GSi's.

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Old 12 November 2004 | 07:22 PM
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This what a former RS driver thinks about scooby agains his old RS.


http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=379061
Old 12 November 2004 | 07:23 PM
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niethers my mates but he's runnin 267bhp and the only chance he'll have of catchin me is on long airfield.

Theres too many probs with traction with that much power on a 2wd car. My mates runnin an LSD box but still stuggles.Dont get me wrong i like fiesta RS Turbo's otherwise we'd of never chose to build one up from scratch as a project but i know them too well to accept comments that there as good Scoobys.

Sounds like you've got a good one mate
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Not quite convinced that you've always resisted the cheap snydes, to be honest, M8.

Anyway, a nicely sorted RS with 260bhp, low drivertrain loss and lightish weight is going to beat a decatted UK scoob (similar flywheel power, much less at the wheels, more weight, probably worse aerodynamics) accelerating in a straight line once it can get traction. A 400bhp Cossie will beat a 300bhp scoob (similar weight etc) in a straight line. A 400bhp scoob will beat a 300bhp cossie in a straight line. This is simple physics, the "my car is better than yours" from either side is irrelevant at that point.

Admittedly, one person's 260bhp is not always the same as another persons - depending on rollers etc. That isn't intended as a snipe at anyone, btw.

Anyway, isn't it time someone beat the all in the twisties?
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Thank you for that heple1983. I agree big power in a front wheel drive is far from ideal hence my once rolling coment. I wouldn't compare the chassis of the two as it's a chalk and cheese comparison.

There are plenty of these cars though that are capable of causing you guys some suprises
Old 12 November 2004 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
heple1983 - I apreciate your comment but mine is not your average rat boy car that you seem keen to generalise.

I'm 28 years old and have put a lot of time effort and cash into my car and have achieved results with it. 248bhp with 265lb torque and it has been timed at Bruntingthorpe at 150mph and despite traction issues a fairly respectable 0-60 in 6.2 seconds (with ICE install).

Pissing on RST's with a GSi now you're making me laugh. And I'm fairly fond of the old GSi's.
By the way the RS Turbo we built up was a runnin at 170bhp with a stage 2 chip and was no-where to be seen against my standard 150bhp J reg GSI thats bottom and top end and the drive of it was very poor this was mainly due to the fact it had no PAS which we later fitted!!!!!! Think you'll find that in standard form the GSI wins all round.
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Yeah ok I'll be the first to admit I'm stuffed in the corners. lol
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Thank you for that heple1983. I agree big power in a front wheel drive is far from ideal hence my once rolling coment. I wouldn't compare the chassis of the two as it's a chalk and cheese comparison.

There are plenty of these cars though that are capable of causing you guys some suprises
I agree,

A neighbour of mine has a 52reg corsa thats hiding a 2L 16v Turbo running 380bhp in it. He's supprised a few cossey's,scooby's and evo's. I wouldn't even bother racin him its got so much torque in the straight line its unreal!!!
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heple1983 - no PAS is a bugger on these. I get into it after using my A4 all week and I feel like I'm arm wrestling all the time. lol
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We've got a 316bhp FRST also in our stable. Once mapped we are hoping to see close to 400bhp but if I'm honest the prospect of driving it is worrying me slightly. I don't want to let the builder down though as he's done me so many favours in the past.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Yeah ok I'll be the first to admit I'm stuffed in the corners. lol
U wanna try hittin the bends in a Astra Gsi - Death trap on wheels especially in the wet!!! LOL
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
We've got a 316bhp FRST also in our stable. Once mapped we are hoping to see close to 400bhp but if I'm honest the prospect of driving it is worrying me slightly. I don't want to let the builder down though as he's done me so many favours in the past.
What engine is it ZVH Turbo???
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Nope it's a 2l Zetec bored to 2.1 with some daft crank, rods and pistons sourced from the US. Some insanely potty cylinder head and a set of custom profiled cams with a modded T34 turbo. TBH I'm not sure of the rest of the stuff but 316bhp was what it made at SCA in Norwich before a lorry driver drove into it. The cars been off the road for 2 years whilst the nut and bolt rebuild has been taking place. It's up and running for bedding in but we hope to start the mapping early in the new year (weather permitting and when I say we I mean he does the technical stuff and I just hang on to the steering wheel. pmsl).


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