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#61
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
LOL
PSlewis, the guy who slags everyone off yet cant deal with someone asking to back up his rhetoric.
PSlewis, the guy who slags everyone off yet cant deal with someone asking to back up his rhetoric.
I cannot believe how stupid you are?? ... you secretly admire me don't you?
Now, get back to the issue under discussion (which is NOT what military experience I have, or don't have!)
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Originally Posted by moses
if tomorrow an army came to scotland to oppress us, with all means necessary i would use and so will my fellow scots against these kind of scum like the us soldiers in their illegal war to liberate scotland and calling us scots terrorists wont be fair would it, no we are defenders of our land
Originally Posted by moses
majority of the insurgents in fallujah were hero's and martyrs
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Moses - the west is trying to give Iraq back to the Iraqis ... those who are trying to stop democracy are NOT heroes or martyrs - they are cold blooded killers who kill innocents .......
and they shall be executed where they fall!
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and they shall be executed where they fall!
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they wouldnt go round suicide bombing - these people clearly have a totally different mindset to westerners
Petem, there are various groups in Iraq right now, don't believe what the Yanks tell you, they haven't stopped lying. I wouldn't trust them to tell me what the weather was outside my window.
Scots wouldnt go round capturing innocents and brually beheading them
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#65
Originally Posted by pslewis
I have no problem backing up my point of view, what I will NOT have is someone like YOU telling me that I MUST tell YOU what I have done and do in a military aspect .......................
I cannot believe how stupid you are?? ... you secretly admire me don't you?
I cannot believe how stupid you are?? ... you secretly admire me don't you?
When you use crap like this in your posts it warants a request for clarification of you actual level of involvement, especially when you are often telling people they have no valid opinion because they have no relevent experience.
I have more military knowledge than you might think - some things I can't talk about, you will appreciate.
My comment about muppetts commenting on here after playing PS2 wargames is correct - they just haven't got a clue whats what.
My comment about muppetts commenting on here after playing PS2 wargames is correct - they just haven't got a clue whats what.
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
No Pete, i think you are an ******* troll who is out to destroy a thread the majority of the time, you have serious issues where people disagree with you and often shout them down, adding nothing to the dabate taking place and often sending them off in a tangent.
When you use crap like this in your posts it warants a request for clarification of you actual level of involvement, especially when you are often telling people they have no valid opinion because they have no relevent experience.
this was in response to a question posted not by me, but SBradley asking "You comment on armchair soldiers playing wargames on their PS2s. An opinion which I'm rather inclined to be sympathetic towards. But, and please correct me if I'm mistaken here, the sum total of your military experience is, um, naff all." you never answered the question, you just sugested you had some involvement. Which of course any civy contractor could say.
When you use crap like this in your posts it warants a request for clarification of you actual level of involvement, especially when you are often telling people they have no valid opinion because they have no relevent experience.
this was in response to a question posted not by me, but SBradley asking "You comment on armchair soldiers playing wargames on their PS2s. An opinion which I'm rather inclined to be sympathetic towards. But, and please correct me if I'm mistaken here, the sum total of your military experience is, um, naff all." you never answered the question, you just sugested you had some involvement. Which of course any civy contractor could say.
I made it clear that I would not talk about my work, past or present .... I struggle to understand why you cannot accept that? You CLEARLY have very little experience of the security services if you think everyone can talk about what they did do, and do. Now go to bed!
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Peter I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick the aims of Bush are simple...oil and a strategic centre in the Gulf States. The UK and US provided Saddam Hussein with weapons in the first place. If they want to give Iraq back to Iraqis why are they not giving Zimbabwe back to it oppressed people, or Sudan back to the oppressed Sudanese or Chechnya back to the Chechens etc. There is no doubt individuals like Zarkawi are devils but what do you think Bush and Blair are? Angels?!!!
It is very easy to fall to propaganda that is being pumped out...how do you know that this Iraq was individually responsible for killing hostages? Also if Zarkawi beheads then we should do the same to Iraqis? Is a knife for beheading worse than tons of bombs dropped on innocent Iraqis be so called precision bombings. Will there be any Iraqis left to give Iraq back to after the bombings etc.?
1. Where are the WMD? Oh yes sorry Its now...
2. To get rid of the raping, torturing, murdering Saddam Hussein? Got rid of him but the US Troops are now doing a fine job on Saddams behalf.
3. We want to give back Iraq to the Iraqis and establish Democracy for them. Well will there be any Iraqi civilians left who haven't been raped, tortured, sexaully humiliated or murdered?
You reap what you sow...Terrorism is evil whether on a small scale or State run. A life is a life whether it be Arab/ Iraqi or Western/ US or UK. Do not raise the value of one over the other.
It is very easy to fall to propaganda that is being pumped out...how do you know that this Iraq was individually responsible for killing hostages? Also if Zarkawi beheads then we should do the same to Iraqis? Is a knife for beheading worse than tons of bombs dropped on innocent Iraqis be so called precision bombings. Will there be any Iraqis left to give Iraq back to after the bombings etc.?
1. Where are the WMD? Oh yes sorry Its now...
2. To get rid of the raping, torturing, murdering Saddam Hussein? Got rid of him but the US Troops are now doing a fine job on Saddams behalf.
3. We want to give back Iraq to the Iraqis and establish Democracy for them. Well will there be any Iraqi civilians left who haven't been raped, tortured, sexaully humiliated or murdered?
You reap what you sow...Terrorism is evil whether on a small scale or State run. A life is a life whether it be Arab/ Iraqi or Western/ US or UK. Do not raise the value of one over the other.
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Originally Posted by Aaquil
A life is a life whether it be Arab/ Iraqi or Western/ US or UK. Do not raise the value of one over the other.
1st life is that of a terrorist (of whatever race/religion) who executes a female aid worker by beheading in the most barbaric way.
2nd life is a US 19 year old soldier who is scared stiff and fighting for freedom
Sorry, I place the 2nd life WAY, WAY above that of the 1st!
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But was the guy a terrorist? Defo if he was I agree with you 100% scum should be killed...no arguments at all. If he was a terrorist he deserved to die.
You know the most Ironic and sad thing that female Aid worker was a Muslim!!!
You know the most Ironic and sad thing that female Aid worker was a Muslim!!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Yeah, Yeah, lots of words ..... and your point is??
I made it clear that I would not talk about my work, past or present .... I struggle to understand why you cannot accept that? You CLEARLY have very little experience of the security services if you think everyone can talk about what they did do, and do. Now go to bed!
Pete
I made it clear that I would not talk about my work, past or present .... I struggle to understand why you cannot accept that? You CLEARLY have very little experience of the security services if you think everyone can talk about what they did do, and do. Now go to bed!
Pete
You have talked about your "work" in the past, which if i recall correctly you stated as being involved in weapons systems as a civilian employee. or were you lieing?
#71
The Marine is hero and so are all the others
Stuff like this happens – in war or peace – now he will be judged by his piers and superiors
But whatever happens the guy is still a hero for helping to spread freedom and democracy to a people, most of whom have never known the freedoms we enjoy and expect every day.
Stuff like this happens – in war or peace – now he will be judged by his piers and superiors
But whatever happens the guy is still a hero for helping to spread freedom and democracy to a people, most of whom have never known the freedoms we enjoy and expect every day.
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Originally Posted by Aaquil
But was the guy a terrorist? Defo if he was I agree with you 100% scum should be killed...no arguments at all. If he was a terrorist he deserved to die.
You know the most Ironic and sad thing that female Aid worker was a Muslim!!!
You know the most Ironic and sad thing that female Aid worker was a Muslim!!!
Was the guy a terrorist? Was he NOT a terrorist? What we DO know is he would have killed YOU, ME, and the Soldier who killed him!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
What we DO know is he would have killed YOU, ME, and the Soldier who killed him!
Pete
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Was the guy a terrorist?
When there is a real possibility that you may DIE in the next 3 seconds you dont stop to ask.
I dont even know why we are having this converation.
When there is a real possibility that you may DIE in the next 3 seconds you dont stop to ask.
I dont even know why we are having this converation.
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If that is true then I agree with pslewis then you last statement means he must have been one so killing him is not a problem. If he is like the devil Zarkawi. Is it confirmed that Margaret Hassan is murdered...if so then it is truly a sad day. A Muslim who devoted her life to the Iraqi. I'm sure that the majority of the Iraqi would have had nothing to do with it. May Allaah destroy her killers.
Yes, I am a Muslim...Islaam promotes the killing of terrorists like Zarkawi. A Believing Muslim would be fighting with the Western troops as to who could kill that devil, scum, evil, coward, dog. May Allaah destroy his hands and body.
Yes, I am a Muslim...Islaam promotes the killing of terrorists like Zarkawi. A Believing Muslim would be fighting with the Western troops as to who could kill that devil, scum, evil, coward, dog. May Allaah destroy his hands and body.
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
1. I worked in the SAS and was involved in the Iranian hostage seige
2. I was a dustbin man and still am
3. I worked for MI5 and MI6 around the world including NI
4. I was a star-spangled stiker playing for Middlesbrough Football Club
5. I was a 1970's pop star in the most successful bands of all time, I died in a car crash - but am really still alive
or
6. I am a complete madman who lives on planet cuckoo and wet the bed nightly .............. ooooops, sorry, thats YOU!!!! Ha Ha Ha
So take whichever you like as gospel and go to bed a happy man, no doubt you will dream of me
Pete
Last edited by pslewis; 16 November 2004 at 10:49 PM.
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
It was a simple request that requires no clasified information to answer. You constantly slag people off as being the PS2 generation yet you cant answer yes/no to a simple question.
You have talked about your "work" in the past, which if i recall correctly you stated as being involved in weapons systems as a civilian employee. or were you lieing?
You have talked about your "work" in the past, which if i recall correctly you stated as being involved in weapons systems as a civilian employee. or were you lieing?
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pete and pslewis
99% of iraqis or more aint kidnapping innocents, its a percentage as u know
and 100.000 civilians killed and over and more
can u feel how it would feel if they were americans or british lives
trust me u wouldnt have said that if our people were killed this way an illegal war it was and always will be
99% of iraqis or more aint kidnapping innocents, its a percentage as u know
and 100.000 civilians killed and over and more
can u feel how it would feel if they were americans or british lives
trust me u wouldnt have said that if our people were killed this way an illegal war it was and always will be
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Originally Posted by chris's scooby
John, Pete's already said he can't talk about his work. Although i didn't think 1914-1918 was still covered by the official secrets act?
OK Pete, you wont answer the question, fair enough. In respect of that stop slagging everyone off when you suspect they are nothing more than PS2 jockeys. (i wont hold my breath)
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Originally Posted by moses
pete and pslewis
99% of iraqis or more aint kidnapping innocents, its a percentage as u know
and 100.000 civilians killed and over and more
can u feel how it would feel if they were americans or british lives
trust me u wouldnt have said that if our people were killed this way an illegal war it was and always will be
99% of iraqis or more aint kidnapping innocents, its a percentage as u know
and 100.000 civilians killed and over and more
can u feel how it would feel if they were americans or british lives
trust me u wouldnt have said that if our people were killed this way an illegal war it was and always will be
I appreciate that most Iraqis are NOT kidnappers and killers, I had a few Iraqi friends about 25 years ago. They are absolutely fine people - and thats why I am fully in favour of freeing them from the stranglehold of the past.
I am in favour of them having free elections where they can vote for who they want to run the country
I am in favour of wiping the scum from the face of the earth
Sadly, these great prizes will come at a cost ..... the west is paying some of that cost, freely giving their lives for the Iraqi people.
When the USA came to help the UK in the World War innocents died, civilians were blown up in their own homes, the defeat of the devil was the result
We are there now and will not desert our Iraqi friends - whatever those on here might say, we will NOT leave you alone to the terrorists!
Pete
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
OK Pete, you wont answer the question, fair enough. In respect of that stop slagging everyone off when you suspect they are nothing more than PS2 jockeys. (i wont hold my breath)
Pete
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Sadly, these great prizes will come at a cost ..... the west is paying some of that cost, freely giving their lives for the Iraqi people.