Trucks banished to the left lane
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
I don't see what's wrong with letting wagon's do 70mph, surely that would be more helpful?
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Originally Posted by comic cuts
A14 as well please! Fed up of 56.1 mph overtaking that takes miles!
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
If you want to continue insulting me then i suggest it might be best for us to meet up and discuss why you feel compelled to act in this manner?
This forum is about debate and just because you get pulled up for making sweeping statements with no facts to support them, doesn't mean that it has to descend to playground level unless you're already there.
You demanded constructive ideas from other posters, which I've contributed and you've failed to respond to other than to get on your high horse and accuse me of insulting you by lumping you in with other muppets on this forum who insist on pinning the country's woes on their most disliked politician.
If you look at your own posts objectively, you'd admit that you're you have double standards at the very least but I doubt you're big enough to admit it given the fact that you're quick to throw insults around without subtantiating any of your comments about the rail network.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
And indeed they are resurrecting the use of waterways for transport around London.
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
So your answer to the problem is?
Maybe incentives for car sharing wopuld wase the prblem a little. Take a look around you in the rush hours. Most cars have just the driver in them.
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Look, this is a forum where people air their views whether rightly or wrongly, that doesn't mean because you disagree with them you lower yourself to insulting people and indeed still are doing.
You are obviously new to bbs boards otherwise you may think twice about what sort of comments you are posting, little tip, dont be personal.
You are just another example of an **** poster on here who is the usual holier than thou keyboard ninja
Tell me, would you have made those comments to someones face, no i think not because you are the type of person who is 7ft tall and built like a boxer when you are behind a computer. You make me laugh
Did i say i wanted a fight............... So now you profess to know my political stances read my mind and know all about my school life, c'mon you're really Derek Acorah aren't you.
Your an **** posting keyboard ninja pr1ck............... there you go i've now dropped to your level. Thats sorted loads out hasn't it.
I started off a post, tongue in cheek and through one comment you decide to insult me, end of.
You dont know me unless you are a medium, i've been posting here for years people know me and i know them. I suggest you get to know the posters styles of writing and their personas before you go feet first with the holier than thou attitude.
I've drawn my conclusions about you, you do the same and we'll keep them to ourselves eh.
You are obviously new to bbs boards otherwise you may think twice about what sort of comments you are posting, little tip, dont be personal.
You are just another example of an **** poster on here who is the usual holier than thou keyboard ninja
Tell me, would you have made those comments to someones face, no i think not because you are the type of person who is 7ft tall and built like a boxer when you are behind a computer. You make me laugh
Did i say i wanted a fight............... So now you profess to know my political stances read my mind and know all about my school life, c'mon you're really Derek Acorah aren't you.
Your an **** posting keyboard ninja pr1ck............... there you go i've now dropped to your level. Thats sorted loads out hasn't it.
I started off a post, tongue in cheek and through one comment you decide to insult me, end of.
You dont know me unless you are a medium, i've been posting here for years people know me and i know them. I suggest you get to know the posters styles of writing and their personas before you go feet first with the holier than thou attitude.
I've drawn my conclusions about you, you do the same and we'll keep them to ourselves eh.
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Originally Posted by Chip
There is no easy answer but I would imagine a high percentage of car journeys are completely unneccasary. If these people were off the road then the situation wouldnt be so bad.
Maybe incentives for car sharing wopuld wase the prblem a little. Take a look around you in the rush hours. Most cars have just the driver in them.
Chip
Maybe incentives for car sharing wopuld wase the prblem a little. Take a look around you in the rush hours. Most cars have just the driver in them.
Chip
Good call chip
I think a lot of it should start in large civil servant buildings and large complexes. Sadly we can't do that here as cars are needed throughout the day and home times are "varied" to say the least.
However i do see a few call centre car parks near where i work and these are overflowing with cars on the kerbs etc, surely, as you say incentives could be offered to counter act the problems
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Buzzer, how's that new handbag working out for you? LOL
Hi Dave
Just sick of pr1cks who should be on political forums and not a BBS dedicated to Scooby's, mate.
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
Strictly, 60mph, but most of them have governors set at 90kph for the EU rules.
You stick to 70mph max on the motorway in your car? I think possibly not!
You stick to 70mph max on the motorway in your car? I think possibly not!
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Hi Dave
Just sick of pr1cks who should be on political forums and not a BBS dedicated to Scooby's, mate.
Just sick of pr1cks who should be on political forums and not a BBS dedicated to Scooby's, mate.
NSR certainly isn't
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Good call chip
See here http://www.2carshare.com/
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I use the motorways a lot and do see a lot of problems caused by lorries overtaking - causes huge hold ups, sudden braking etc. They tend to pull-out in front of rapidly approaching cars.
But put lorries in one lane only and you will get some probs unless the is a minium speed for them - just image the truck tail backs if some huge load lorry doing 35-40mph is on the motorway!
But put lorries in one lane only and you will get some probs unless the is a minium speed for them - just image the truck tail backs if some huge load lorry doing 35-40mph is on the motorway!
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Point taken SB
It was just that it was motoring related and i spose the majority of users on here came to this site as they had a performance car thus potentially anything relating to motoring would be sided toward the car user but then it descended into a new user lambasting someone over a political comment
It was just that it was motoring related and i spose the majority of users on here came to this site as they had a performance car thus potentially anything relating to motoring would be sided toward the car user but then it descended into a new user lambasting someone over a political comment
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Originally Posted by OllyK
That would seem fair enough for Trucks, coaches and caravans, but leave cars with trailers out of it
1) You drive trucks, so trucks must be allowed to slow everyone else up (see previous posts)
2) You tow with your car, so towing cars must be allowed to slow everyone else up (see above)
3) You don't tow a caravan, so it's OK to restrict their lanes (see above)
Hmmm, a bit of self-interest creeping in there, I think, Olly!
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I think we should just build lots and lots of nice big new roads across the countryside to help accomodate the increasing volume of traffic and keep my job safe (none of this silly train and boat stuff )
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
LOL Amy
Spoken like a true Transport Manager
It's Friday night, go and get some dirty beer down your neck
I am !
Spoken like a true Transport Manager
It's Friday night, go and get some dirty beer down your neck
I am !
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
lorrys doing 1mph more then the next one is one of my pet hates when travelling from newcastle to london on the roads
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Another clearly ill conceived idea thought up by people that don't understand the practicalities. There are far more cars on the road than lorries. Next time you are on a motorway, three lane, have a look at how much traffic is in lane three and look at who is actually causing the hold ups in lane two. Fixed penalties for those who do not move out of lane three because they think they are travelling at 70 or those who habitually run in lane two when there is nothing for a couple of hundred yards in lane one are the main culprits. The speed limit for lorries on the motorway is 60 mph but all UK lorries are limited to 56 mph. So 60 mph is only achieved down hill. ( unless it's an Irish wagon. They are a law unto themselves.) Coaches are limited to 70 mph. Now if lorries are restricted to lane one their speed will be that of the slowest vehicle in lane one so if some OAP wants to drive from London to Newcastle at 40 mph the whole transport system is screwed. Get the picture ?
Now with all wagons restricted to lane one, as already pointed out, how will other motorists gain access at slip roads ? Journeys that can be done legally in a day or a night now will take two shifts so distribution costs will escalate and there will probably be an increase in the number of wagons on the road. There is already a dire shortage of experienced HGV drivers and the job is becoming less and less acceptable. With increased nights out and the problems of rostering to end up back at home base at the end of the week, I guess a lot more people would leave the industry which will only assist the further decline of UK Limited to a third rate nation. There is a lot more I could say but none of it is rocket science.
Something else to consider. The speed limit for all HGVs on single carriage way roads is 40 mph. Now if all the wagon drivers in the country were to drive at 40 mph, other than motor ways and stick to lane one it would not take long to paralyse the country.
Fuel duty and VED is higher in the UK than any other European country but only a small fraction of the taxes raised are spent on transportation, road, rail or whatever. An enlightened government would be taking a 20 year view to create a slick logistics environment rather than shackling it as happens at present.
Now with all wagons restricted to lane one, as already pointed out, how will other motorists gain access at slip roads ? Journeys that can be done legally in a day or a night now will take two shifts so distribution costs will escalate and there will probably be an increase in the number of wagons on the road. There is already a dire shortage of experienced HGV drivers and the job is becoming less and less acceptable. With increased nights out and the problems of rostering to end up back at home base at the end of the week, I guess a lot more people would leave the industry which will only assist the further decline of UK Limited to a third rate nation. There is a lot more I could say but none of it is rocket science.
Something else to consider. The speed limit for all HGVs on single carriage way roads is 40 mph. Now if all the wagon drivers in the country were to drive at 40 mph, other than motor ways and stick to lane one it would not take long to paralyse the country.
Fuel duty and VED is higher in the UK than any other European country but only a small fraction of the taxes raised are spent on transportation, road, rail or whatever. An enlightened government would be taking a 20 year view to create a slick logistics environment rather than shackling it as happens at present.
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Originally Posted by harvey
Another clearly ill conceived idea thought up by people that don't understand the practicalities. There are far more cars on the road than lorries. Next time you are on a motorway, three lane, have a look at how much traffic is in lane three and look at who is actually causing the hold ups in lane two. Fixed penalties for those who do not move out of lane three because they think they are travelling at 70 or those who habitually run in lane two when there is nothing for a couple of hundred yards in lane one are the main culprits. The speed limit for lorries on the motorway is 60 mph but all UK lorries are limited to 56 mph. So 60 mph is only achieved down hill. ( unless it's an Irish wagon. They are a law unto themselves.) Coaches are limited to 70 mph. Now if lorries are restricted to lane one their speed will be that of the slowest vehicle in lane one so if some OAP wants to drive from London to Newcastle at 40 mph the whole transport system is screwed. Get the picture ?
Now with all wagons restricted to lane one, as already pointed out, how will other motorists gain access at slip roads ? Journeys that can be done legally in a day or a night now will take two shifts so distribution costs will escalate and there will probably be an increase in the number of wagons on the road. There is already a dire shortage of experienced HGV drivers and the job is becoming less and less acceptable. With increased nights out and the problems of rostering to end up back at home base at the end of the week, I guess a lot more people would leave the industry which will only assist the further decline of UK Limited to a third rate nation. There is a lot more I could say but none of it is rocket science.
Something else to consider. The speed limit for all HGVs on single carriage way roads is 40 mph. Now if all the wagon drivers in the country were to drive at 40 mph, other than motor ways and stick to lane one it would not take long to paralyse the country.
Fuel duty and VED is higher in the UK than any other European country but only a small fraction of the taxes raised are spent on transportation, road, rail or whatever. An enlightened government would be taking a 20 year view to create a slick logistics environment rather than shackling it as happens at present.
Now with all wagons restricted to lane one, as already pointed out, how will other motorists gain access at slip roads ? Journeys that can be done legally in a day or a night now will take two shifts so distribution costs will escalate and there will probably be an increase in the number of wagons on the road. There is already a dire shortage of experienced HGV drivers and the job is becoming less and less acceptable. With increased nights out and the problems of rostering to end up back at home base at the end of the week, I guess a lot more people would leave the industry which will only assist the further decline of UK Limited to a third rate nation. There is a lot more I could say but none of it is rocket science.
Something else to consider. The speed limit for all HGVs on single carriage way roads is 40 mph. Now if all the wagon drivers in the country were to drive at 40 mph, other than motor ways and stick to lane one it would not take long to paralyse the country.
Fuel duty and VED is higher in the UK than any other European country but only a small fraction of the taxes raised are spent on transportation, road, rail or whatever. An enlightened government would be taking a 20 year view to create a slick logistics environment rather than shackling it as happens at present.
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Rip up the majority of rail tracks. Only keep rail for travel/commute within 20 miles radius of London.
Convert all other rail tracks to roads for trucks/coaches only.
Cheaper and more efficient in long run.
Convert all other rail tracks to roads for trucks/coaches only.
Cheaper and more efficient in long run.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
AFAIK they haven't devised a camera that works for tailgaiting so that one isn't going to work
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It's been said before, if we drove more like the french on our motorways, it would be loads better. Uphill sections have a crawler lane for trucks and they're not allowed to overtake on the steeper bits and most people have good lane discipline rather than being lazy and sticking to the overtaking lane even though they know they'll be pulling out again in a minute plus no bugger tries to deliberatly box you in.
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Originally Posted by Chip
What sort of truck is that? Or do you refer to up to 7.5 ton.which is not an hgv
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and its about time some of these people went and sat in a wagon for a day to see wot its like, 1mph more than the other wagon thats 10miles in 10 hours or 9 miles on a 9 hour day thats a lot of mileage when you only do 56mph,how many of you lot would have a job if you where going slower than the rest of your work m8s??
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Originally Posted by scooby-si
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and its about time some of these people went and sat in a wagon for a day to see wot its like, 1mph more than the other wagon thats 10miles in 10 hours or 9 miles on a 9 hour day thats a lot of mileage when you only do 56mph,how many of you lot would have a job if you where going slower than the rest of your work m8s??
and its about time some of these people went and sat in a wagon for a day to see wot its like, 1mph more than the other wagon thats 10miles in 10 hours or 9 miles on a 9 hour day thats a lot of mileage when you only do 56mph,how many of you lot would have a job if you where going slower than the rest of your work m8s??
Chip