Who owns the fastest Scooby ?
04 December 2004, 10:21 PM
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Andy's time is from TOTB 3 I think so there are plenty other cars to compare it with. Cannot remember his overall placing. He also finished fourth on the handling circuit. These times were set on road legal tyres with the car in everyday trim and no particular weight reduction. Still has potential for signifigant improvements.
05 December 2004, 10:15 AM
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Most uk classics are only ratio'd to 167mph (p1, uk turbo etc) the STi's (Type UK) are ratio'd to about 183mph, JDM New age STi's are ratio'd to 170mph. Some special edition JDM Classic STi's had a different 5th gear ratio and that put them to around 180mph, but in most cases id think you would need a different set of gear ratio's to achieve 200+mph in a scoob (and lots of power 
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05 December 2004, 10:26 AM
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Rod
I think your cossie would be right up the a8se of most scoobs on the twisties on a dry day, it's only when conditions are a bit dodgy or out of very slow corners that these cars have any reasonable advantage over 2wd.
I worked out one day that a classic scoob shape with a low wing would need 680 bhp and appropriate gearing to hit 200mph (it would also have to stay together for that duration)
I don't know of any with that spec.
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I think your cossie would be right up the a8se of most scoobs on the twisties on a dry day, it's only when conditions are a bit dodgy or out of very slow corners that these cars have any reasonable advantage over 2wd.
I worked out one day that a classic scoob shape with a low wing would need 680 bhp and appropriate gearing to hit 200mph (it would also have to stay together for that duration
)I don't know of any with that spec.
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05 December 2004, 12:21 PM
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in the 10's @140+ with 15" wheels & sticky tyres
05 December 2004, 12:35 PM
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He would only need the 15" drag tyres on the rear so could retain big brakes on the front.
You wouldn't want to go cornering on the drag tyres though, not even a little bit
You wouldn't want to go cornering on the drag tyres though, not even a little bit
05 December 2004, 01:34 PM
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When is this?
My scoob is currently geared to allow 200mph, and I am working on the power side of things still. Chasing Andy as usual, with a 10.9@126 a few months ago, but potentially a lot more power available compared to when that was done.
I would like to have a go, as I will soon be changing the gearing which will limit me to about 180mph tops.
Paul
My scoob is currently geared to allow 200mph, and I am working on the power side of things still. Chasing Andy as usual, with a 10.9@126 a few months ago, but potentially a lot more power available compared to when that was done.
I would like to have a go, as I will soon be changing the gearing which will limit me to about 180mph tops.
Paul
05 December 2004, 02:15 PM
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The JUN Scoob managed 191 mph on the long straight in NZ - that was a few yrs ago no mind you. Think it was around 650 bhp and from the vid it seemed to be pretty high geared.
05 December 2004, 02:26 PM
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I personally wouldn't try to run a scoob engine of 600+bhp at that sort of continuous loading, they are made from soggy cardboard in comparison to some of the Supra/Skyline engines.
Cossie and Evo engines don't seem to last too long at this output either by the way !
Cossie and Evo engines don't seem to last too long at this output either by the way !
05 December 2004, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Cossie and Evo engines don't seem to last too long at this output either by the way !
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05 December 2004, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hades
200mph+ with brakes that fit under 15" wheels - does that leave stopping power to match the awesome acceleration/speed? Perhaps us on here are all too used to 300bhp scoobs that can easily fade standard 4 pots - which need 16" wheels.
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05 December 2004, 05:14 PM
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Rod - I wasn't meaning to have a dig, apologies if the 
means you'd taken it that way. I admit I hadn't cottoned on to the 15" wheels on the back with bigger on the front. I was just conscious that you need good brakes with something that quick; 330 AP 6 pots on the front with the harder pads makes sense.
means you'd taken it that way. I admit I hadn't cottoned on to the 15" wheels on the back with bigger on the front. I was just conscious that you need good brakes with something that quick; 330 AP 6 pots on the front with the harder pads makes sense.
06 December 2004, 01:31 AM
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Real mph Craig, not speedo figures and certainly nothing comparable to "Cyprus" figures. 
Bruntingthorpe is longer than Elvington, probably 2 miles long and you can come on to the straight at 70 mph but an even longer straight would help as I know you need more than that distance to max out on tall gearing. I have all the calculations somewhere but 3.9 diffs and .738 top gear and big 18" tyres results in 192-196mph at 8,000 rpm depending on the actual tyres and circumference.
Bruntingthorpe is longer than Elvington, probably 2 miles long and you can come on to the straight at 70 mph but an even longer straight would help as I know you need more than that distance to max out on tall gearing. I have all the calculations somewhere but 3.9 diffs and .738 top gear and big 18" tyres results in 192-196mph at 8,000 rpm depending on the actual tyres and circumference.
06 December 2004, 07:18 AM
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And we're talking real mph Harvey I assume - not the 180 the cyprus boy has seen on his speedo?
ha ha. Unfortunately, my Scoob is still restricted! (180km/h in 5th gear at 6,000rpm) 
At least I have a nice long runway to play about on.
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06 December 2004, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Hi Rod
My daily driver fully trimmed standard looking scoob will run the 1/4m in 10.5@136 so anything up to around 140mph and I'm a second in front of you Thats a few car lengths at that speed, then you would start to reel me in, however where I stay I usually encounter at least a little bend that needs me to back off a bit by this point and thats where it would get interesting
Let me know which circuit you have in mind for the race
Andy
PS there are scoobs around with 200bhp more than me but they're not straightliners either
My daily driver fully trimmed standard looking scoob will run the 1/4m in 10.5@136 so anything up to around 140mph and I'm a second in front of you
Thats a few car lengths at that speed, then you would start to reel me in, however where I stay I usually encounter at least a little bend that needs me to back off a bit by this point and thats where it would get interesting Let me know which circuit you have in mind for the race
Andy
PS there are scoobs around with 200bhp more than me but they're not straightliners either
Thats sounds super quick!
Please tell
Dazza
06 December 2004, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Most uk classics are only ratio'd to 167mph (p1, uk turbo etc) the STi's (Type UK) are ratio'd to about 183mph, JDM New age STi's are ratio'd to 170mph. Some special edition JDM Classic STi's had a different 5th gear ratio and that put them to around 180mph, but in most cases id think you would need a different set of gear ratio's to achieve 200+mph in a scoob (and lots of power )
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P1 has different ratios to other UK cars, which are lower overall, but a different RPM limit.
UK 5th gear will do 200mph with a 8000rpm rev limit and new age tyre/wheel size, no new ratios required.
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06 December 2004, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dazza's-STi
Andy what the hell have you done to your car... ?
Thats sounds super quick!
Please tell
Dazza
Thats sounds super quick!
Please tell
Dazza
If you can grab a copy of scoobymagazine there is a write up in there.In a nutshell
Sti5 type r
Bored and stroked to 2.33
Custom pistons and rods
Garrett GT30R turbo
HKS Headers
Custom intercooler
850cc injectors
Twin plate clutch
50 shot NOS kit
556bhp flywheel, 502 bhp at the wheels
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06 December 2004, 08:20 PM
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Doesn't Rod's cossie do 0-100 in 7.1 though!!!!!! hmmmm having said that
it is interesting how much money has been spent on these mods on these vehicles and could they have bought a nice secondhand 911 Turbo for the money.
let me see now Cossie, Scoob Or 911 Turbo let me think!!!!!
it is interesting how much money has been spent on these mods on these vehicles and could they have bought a nice secondhand 911 Turbo for the money.
let me see now Cossie, Scoob Or 911 Turbo let me think!!!!!
06 December 2004, 09:41 PM
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Well if its performance per pound:
Acceleration (Standing 1/4-mile time, terminal speed)
9.68s, 132mph
Top speed
189mph (restricted)
Suzuki Hayabusa std trim @ about £4.5K second hand!
Acceleration (Standing 1/4-mile time, terminal speed)
9.68s, 132mph
Top speed
189mph (restricted)
Suzuki Hayabusa std trim @ about £4.5K second hand!
06 December 2004, 09:42 PM
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You can have mine for £20k, not quite ruf pork territory
And you can seat 4 in comfort, try that on the busa
ps std bus is high 10's
And you can seat 4 in comfort, try that on the busa
ps std bus is high 10's
07 December 2004, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Doesn't Rod's cossie do 0-100 in 7.1 though!!!!!! hmmmm having said that
it is interesting how much money has been spent on these mods on these vehicles and could they have bought a nice secondhand 911 Turbo for the money.
let me see now Cossie, Scoob Or 911 Turbo let me think!!!!!
it is interesting how much money has been spent on these mods on these vehicles and could they have bought a nice secondhand 911 Turbo for the money.
let me see now Cossie, Scoob Or 911 Turbo let me think!!!!!
Originally Posted by Andy.F
You can have mine for £20k, not quite ruf pork territory
again
07 December 2004, 09:50 AM
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Where do these mythical 9 second standard busa times come from? I have NEVER seen a standard big bike do 9s at either Santa Pod, North Weald or Elvington.
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07 December 2004, 12:53 PM
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See http://www.motorcyclenews.com/nav?pa...ourceId=932811.
the 0-60 time was tested by MCN at 2.8 secs with std gearing.
I know its all relative but as I said performance per pound is good with a bike.
Now the winters here my RSV Mille (0-60 3.2secs with lower gearing) is tucked up in the garage and I actually don't mind if its wet or muddy when I go out for a blast in the STI. (35 mpg would be nice)
the 0-60 time was tested by MCN at 2.8 secs with std gearing.
I know its all relative but as I said performance per pound is good with a bike.
Now the winters here my RSV Mille (0-60 3.2secs with lower gearing) is tucked up in the garage and I actually don't mind if its wet or muddy when I go out for a blast in the STI. (35 mpg would be nice)
07 December 2004, 01:07 PM
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0-45mph in about 1.55 seconds when doing a drag start (47mph is when 1st runs out on my car). I get into 2nd at the 60ft marker, and get 1.65 60 ft times consistently.
Anyones guess as to when 60 rolls up, but with no lag (flat shift) it isn't going to be long.
Paul
Anyones guess as to when 60 rolls up, but with no lag (flat shift) it isn't going to be long.
Paul