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07 December 2004, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Here we go again. Read the article and tell me where it says categorically that if the bill is passed it means the end of religious comedy. I'll save you the time - it doesn't.
Originally Posted by gsm1
There's nothing in this bill which talks about comedy, jokes whatever.
We will either see "Abu Hamza's" getting off saying they were joking, or comedians being banged up for making jokes, and lets face it.... comedians are an easier target than hook-weilding, explosive clad religious nutters!
07 December 2004, 01:11 PM
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I haven't seen anything in that story that says you won't be able to make fun of religion. If it banned Rowan Atkinson from making any more crap "Mr Bean" films, by which he has been able to make millions world wide by making English people look like a bunch of idiots, then I would be all for it.
07 December 2004, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I expect it now.
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07 December 2004, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Good, so you've no more need to keep commenting about it then
Regards,
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07 December 2004, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
...speaking of the naive....
Here is a story by a sensationalist media organisation linking a bill outlawing religious hatred to the banning of religious comedy with no more of a connection than the fact that a comedian is voicing his concerns over the proposal.
That is it - there is no more substance to it than that.
If you can't see that then maybe it is not me who is being naive.
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07 December 2004, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Maybe it's because "we", the people who CAN see what is going on, have a moral obligation to inform "you" the people who seem either blissfully ignorant, or stupidly disinterested in the slow erosion of your liberty?
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07 December 2004, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Yeah, but if that were true even someone as 'stupid' as me would have got it by now given the number of similar posts from you and your sidekick
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07 December 2004, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
You would have thought so wouldn't you!.... unfortunately you havn't "got it", as is made evident by the things you continue to post!
) will just have to keep trying then - aren't we lucky tiggers.
07 December 2004, 01:40 PM
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i dont know whether this would fall into the catagory of religion PC but...
on the American dollar, it states "IN GOD WE TRUST"
could the use of GOD here be seen by other religions as questionable? It has been even in the US, being challenged & upheld in the supreme courts...
just a thought...
on the American dollar, it states "IN GOD WE TRUST"
could the use of GOD here be seen by other religions as questionable? It has been even in the US, being challenged & upheld in the supreme courts...
just a thought...
07 December 2004, 02:00 PM
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Anyway,
A rabbi and a priest get into a car accident and it's a bad one. Both cars are totally demolished, but, amazingly, neither of the clerics is hurt. After they crawl out of their cars, the rabbi sees the priest's collar and says, "So you're a priest. I'm a rabbi. Just look at our cars. There's nothing left, but we are unhurt. This must be a sign from God. God must have meant that we should meet and be friends and live together in peace the rest of our days."
The priest replies, "I agree with you completely. This must be a sign from God."
The rabbi continues, "And look at this. Here's another miracle. My car is completely demolished but this bottle of Mogen David wine didn't break. Surely God wants us to drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune." Then he hands the bottle to the priest.
The priest agrees, takes a few big swigs, and hands the bottle back to the rabbi. The rabbi takes the bottle, immediately puts the cap on, and hands it back to the priest.
The priest asks, "Aren't you having any?"
The rabbi replies, "No...I think I'll wait for the police."
Chip
A rabbi and a priest get into a car accident and it's a bad one. Both cars are totally demolished, but, amazingly, neither of the clerics is hurt. After they crawl out of their cars, the rabbi sees the priest's collar and says, "So you're a priest. I'm a rabbi. Just look at our cars. There's nothing left, but we are unhurt. This must be a sign from God. God must have meant that we should meet and be friends and live together in peace the rest of our days."
The priest replies, "I agree with you completely. This must be a sign from God."
The rabbi continues, "And look at this. Here's another miracle. My car is completely demolished but this bottle of Mogen David wine didn't break. Surely God wants us to drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune." Then he hands the bottle to the priest.
The priest agrees, takes a few big swigs, and hands the bottle back to the rabbi. The rabbi takes the bottle, immediately puts the cap on, and hands it back to the priest.
The priest asks, "Aren't you having any?"
The rabbi replies, "No...I think I'll wait for the police."
Chip
07 December 2004, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Anyway,
A rabbi and a priest get into a car accident and it's a bad one. Both cars are totally demolished, but, amazingly, neither of the clerics is hurt. After they crawl out of their cars, the rabbi sees the priest's collar and says, "So you're a priest. I'm a rabbi. Just look at our cars. There's nothing left, but we are unhurt. This must be a sign from God. God must have meant that we should meet and be friends and live together in peace the rest of our days."
The priest replies, "I agree with you completely. This must be a sign from God."
The rabbi continues, "And look at this. Here's another miracle. My car is completely demolished but this bottle of Mogen David wine didn't break. Surely God wants us to drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune." Then he hands the bottle to the priest.
The priest agrees, takes a few big swigs, and hands the bottle back to the rabbi. The rabbi takes the bottle, immediately puts the cap on, and hands it back to the priest.
The priest asks, "Aren't you having any?"
The rabbi replies, "No...I think I'll wait for the police."
Chip
A rabbi and a priest get into a car accident and it's a bad one. Both cars are totally demolished, but, amazingly, neither of the clerics is hurt. After they crawl out of their cars, the rabbi sees the priest's collar and says, "So you're a priest. I'm a rabbi. Just look at our cars. There's nothing left, but we are unhurt. This must be a sign from God. God must have meant that we should meet and be friends and live together in peace the rest of our days."
The priest replies, "I agree with you completely. This must be a sign from God."
The rabbi continues, "And look at this. Here's another miracle. My car is completely demolished but this bottle of Mogen David wine didn't break. Surely God wants us to drink this wine and celebrate our good fortune." Then he hands the bottle to the priest.
The priest agrees, takes a few big swigs, and hands the bottle back to the rabbi. The rabbi takes the bottle, immediately puts the cap on, and hands it back to the priest.
The priest asks, "Aren't you having any?"
The rabbi replies, "No...I think I'll wait for the police."
Chip
There you go .. proof that you can actually tell a religious joke in this country without being arrested or otherwise silenced.
07 December 2004, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Dixon
There you go .. proof that you can actually tell a religious joke in this country without being arrested or otherwise silenced.
Just wait until it is and the webbie will be deleting posts like that faster than you can say "libel laws"
07 December 2004, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Dixon
There you go .. proof that you can actually tell a religious joke in this country without being arrested or otherwise silenced.
Chip
08 December 2004, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by johnskelley
Lawyers must be rubbing their hands together with this government.
Exactly. Along with insurance companies who up premiums due to this "no win no fee" claims culture. Insurance prices are going through the roof due to people claiming for breaking a nail.
The whole country is becoming a mini USA (E.g ****hole).
08 December 2004, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Exactly. Along with insurance companies who up premiums due to this "no win no fee" claims culture. Insurance prices are going through the roof due to people claiming for breaking a nail.
The whole country is becoming a mini USA (E.g ****hole).
The whole country is becoming a mini USA (E.g ****hole).
The USA has one thing we'll never have. National pride. Be it misguided sometimes, you can't argue with the fact that most Americans are fiercely American. Immigrants to America have to learn the National Anthem, etc. They have to show a use of basic English and know historical facts about the USA. Where is that in Britain? I'm sorry to say we're miles behind the USA, unless you're specifically talking about the letigiousness of the population. We're not far behind there either
08 December 2004, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
No.
The USA has one thing we'll never have. National pride. Be it misguided sometimes, you can't argue with the fact that most Americans are fiercely American. Immigrants to America have to learn the National Anthem, etc. They have to show a use of basic English and know historical facts about the USA. Where is that in Britain? I'm sorry to say we're miles behind the USA, unless you're specifically talking about the letigiousness of the population. We're not far behind there either
The USA has one thing we'll never have. National pride. Be it misguided sometimes, you can't argue with the fact that most Americans are fiercely American. Immigrants to America have to learn the National Anthem, etc. They have to show a use of basic English and know historical facts about the USA. Where is that in Britain? I'm sorry to say we're miles behind the USA, unless you're specifically talking about the letigiousness of the population. We're not far behind there either
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08 December 2004, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
No.
The USA has one thing we'll never have. National pride. Be it misguided sometimes, you can't argue with the fact that most Americans are fiercely American. Immigrants to America have to learn the National Anthem, etc. They have to show a use of basic English and know historical facts about the USA. Where is that in Britain? I'm sorry to say we're miles behind the USA, unless you're specifically talking about the letigiousness of the population. We're not far behind there either
The USA has one thing we'll never have. National pride. Be it misguided sometimes, you can't argue with the fact that most Americans are fiercely American. Immigrants to America have to learn the National Anthem, etc. They have to show a use of basic English and know historical facts about the USA. Where is that in Britain? I'm sorry to say we're miles behind the USA, unless you're specifically talking about the letigiousness of the population. We're not far behind there either
Yeah I see your point. Though the USA is one place I would not want to live.
England - the country that lost it's identity 20 or so years ago.
08 December 2004, 04:11 PM
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Last time I heard that joke it was a Scouser and a Mancuneian, still funny though.
Disclaimer: If you are offended by the following joke, please do not read it thanks.
A Catholic priest and a rabbi are walking past a primary school.
Priest: Hey! let's screw that young boy!
Rabbi: Out of what?
At what point does it change from comedy to religious hatred and at what point does it become unacceptable to joke about stereotypes.
IMO it's fine to poke fun at religions and stereotypes (yes, even racial ones) so long as it's done for comedy value, every group has a negative stereotype attached. We should be concentrating on getting the idiots who actually beleive it!
99% of the jokes I have heard told about black people, for example, I have also heard told about scousers yet the latter is acceptable. Both should be equally acceptable otherwise it's discrimination, likewise we can joke about christians, we used to be able to joke about jews. I think muslims and other religions should come in for equal amounts of mockery, it's only fair.
Disclaimer: If you are offended by the following joke, please do not read it thanks.
A Catholic priest and a rabbi are walking past a primary school.
Priest: Hey! let's screw that young boy!
Rabbi: Out of what?
At what point does it change from comedy to religious hatred and at what point does it become unacceptable to joke about stereotypes.
IMO it's fine to poke fun at religions and stereotypes (yes, even racial ones) so long as it's done for comedy value, every group has a negative stereotype attached. We should be concentrating on getting the idiots who actually beleive it!
99% of the jokes I have heard told about black people, for example, I have also heard told about scousers yet the latter is acceptable. Both should be equally acceptable otherwise it's discrimination, likewise we can joke about christians, we used to be able to joke about jews. I think muslims and other religions should come in for equal amounts of mockery, it's only fair.
08 December 2004, 04:41 PM
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Yeah it appears that discrimination on being Scouse, Fat or ginger is somehow acceptable.
For all the PC stuff, anti this and that, are we really that much better off, we get it hammered into us at work but I think it just makes the reasonable people scared of being mis-heard or mis-interpreted as we will be sacked, yet the actual racists are driven further underground, it makes me very wary in my dealings with people who are in any way different to me, I thought we had free speech in this country ?
For all the PC stuff, anti this and that, are we really that much better off, we get it hammered into us at work but I think it just makes the reasonable people scared of being mis-heard or mis-interpreted as we will be sacked, yet the actual racists are driven further underground, it makes me very wary in my dealings with people who are in any way different to me, I thought we had free speech in this country ?
