andypugh2000

Totally agree on the above, I like SN as it is but I would like to become a mod as I think I could serve a usefull purpose patrolling the forums, Mods should have more freedom to vape/edit without consultation as SN policy should be upheld whatever

Markus

Hmm, have to disagree with that comment. Number of posts does not really dictate a forums 'worth' as it were. Many of the posts in muppets are from post whoring, which isn't exactly 'worthy' as such.

I look forward to my ban for being a troll too

sarasquares

iTrader: (1)

the only complaint i have is ............

i forget to pick up my daughter from nursery when i am in a posting frenzy

otherwise SCOOBYNET IS GREAT

keep up the good work

ex-webby

Markus

I understand what you're saying. But remember this is a community. If you don't like the Muppet Show, don't go in there. Surely it doesn't do any harm it being there?

I may have misunderstood you.

Simon

Dunk

iTrader: (1)

Love them or loathe them, having mods is an essential part of running the board. Without them it would descend into a total free for all, followed by a libel action & the end of the forum quickly after.
In the same role as the police, this society couldn't function without them, but same critisms apply:
1) When you want one they're never around
2) The majority are good eggs, some are a little heavy handed
3) Nobody ever pats one on the back as says "well done"
5) Lots of critics, but few have a go heros
6) They keep getting younger & younger

Mods - Keep it up, don't let the minority tell you they're the majority, and remember the empty kettle makes most noise.

D

mj

NSR is most definateley needed, I don't own a scooby, I can't talk muppet, and DIY moves at glacial speed.

mess with NSR at your peril.

Markus

I guess it's all about streamlining things. As stated, there are other forums that maybe SN needs, maybe it does not need. It is evolving and part of that may be to change focus and remove forums that aren't neeed. However, what I think are unneeded forums, others might not.

Of course removing certain forums may cause the members who frequent them to post elsewhere, causing more problems for moderation. Catch 22 perhaps?

Steve Perriam

Well i guess Chelle will get the Mod Award then for who travelled the longest distance to the Conference

Such dedication from a SN Mod

Hope she's got her ticket sorted

mj

well said that man, the last thing we need is muppets closing, christ on a bike with no saddle, can you imagine the carnage if the lunatics were locked out of the asylum x 20 (another)

sarasquares

iTrader: (1)

we have enough forums without making any changes. a place for everyone and everyone has a place

we do have problems in muppets same as anywhere else, and i think we manage as a community to overcome this.
if the minority dont like muppets......dont go in there, simple.
we dont bitch about other forums we dont use, so live and let live

MATTeL

You asked for people's opinions and you get them, sometimes people say things that you don't like to hear or read.

Well the fact you have only acknowledged the posts that are praising rather than offering discussion points for the admin and moderators to imporve things on SN does reinforce that view.

So offering points for a discussion which have been raised seperately by other people that used SN at one time or another in one post and presenting as possible discussion points, at your invitation didn't fulfill that how.

Surely showing your support can be offering points to make things easier for the team.

For example clear guidelines, that are public, on how to deal with RTMs, deleting of threads and posts would enable the moderators to operate in a even-handed manner and show the community what the reasons are for the action being taken.

Improving communication and therefore lowering barriers is surely good and would allow a community to grow stronger.

Giving discussion points for a meeting was far more constructive than "you're great posts", in my opinion of course.

Isn't part of building a community accepting that there will be posts that you don't like or find annoying?

In fact I remember you telling me that just last year in an e-mail, when you stated I was a "valued" member of the community.

I assume these are only the really positive posts and not the ones raising discussion points then?

MJW

Having been a forum moderator myself I know its a thankless & time consuming task - and I know that once you hit that 'edit post' button its usually the signal for all hell to break loose. On a board as busy as SN it must be tricky.
But we should definitely bring back CWE and get moses in to mod it !

ex-webby

MATTel

The only post of yours I have removed read "someone pass me the sick bucket quick".

One final time. ALL opinions are welcome whether positive or negative, as long as they are constructive.

Regards

Simon

ex-webby

PS.

You will notice your post which had the end line "Now back to reality (or my slightly cynical version of it), I expect this post to be ignored as I haven't praised the teams for doing a good job." is still standing and is less than positive.

Let's stop trying to find negativity in all of this. Thank you to everyone who has contributed constructively.

sarasquares

iTrader: (1)

do we get a fairy token for creeping to the mods

MATTeL

Ah yes but the post has been ignored...

At least it was not noted in the way all the "SN is great, all the mods are wonderful" posts are being acknowledged.

I did note and therefore add a disclaimer that I am cynical about how much any post that doesn't provide great feedback was received.

You also did kind of prove my point for me!

I have given points for discussion YOU ASKED for that, if all you get is praise then you will think everything is right in the world and carry on.

There are some major issues that people have with SN and I was pointing these out to you.

Now I am being negative? I was doing what you asked, I was contributing and offering constructive critisim and ways forward!

mj

some one suggested a "trash can" forum, this would be a good idea IMO. If you want to discuss the finer points of lovemaking with larger women, or for instance argie-bargies that came with CWE you could, at your leisure.

make it pay per view/SN+ whatever its called , and in doing so users/viewers sign up to T's & C's that absolve SN of liabilty.

MATTeL

Which was in reaction to a very sychophantic post... not a comment about SN the mods or the admins.

ex-webby

I've tried to explain MATTeL. Further off topic posts will be deleted.

Please feel free to start another thread in policy if you wish. Or of course, pm me.

ex-webby

mj

I agree with you about the trash can idea.

Might even be a good idea if the community could vote to put things in there automatically? These things can of course be open to abuse though.

mj

cheers, ( I know you are only answering me to ingore mattell) ,that aside, where would SN stand legally? good, bad, or indifferent?

ex-webby

ROFL

Legal issues are always difficult.

The disclaimers help but do not solve the problem completely.

So still difficult, but i don't think a major problem. Will check with the expensive people.

jimmy wrx

Keep the good work up mods Don't change what works ......WELL !

Rex93

scoobynet deserves alot of thanks..............when we got our first scooby we thought we was just buying a nice car, but having found scoobynet and then attending local meets we have also found a good community. Scoobynet offers alot to alot of people due to the vast amount of information that is available from the many knowledgable members, this is not just car information ( much of which goes well over my head ) but almost any question can be asked and theres normally someone that can give some informative reply.
I have had the pleasure of meeting a few of the moderators at local meets etc and would say that theres not one of them that would`nt go out of there way to help you out and all have been very nice approachable people, this I would suggest shows that the selection process for picking moderators works well.
The only improvement that would help me and probably plenty of others out is "try and make it less addictive" I could then get up a little later in the mornings without the need to grab those few extra minutes infront of the computer.
Would suggest the only thing you need to say at the meeting would be " a big thankyou to all and keep up the good work " ( and then get the drinks in )

thanks

*Cino*

I think Scoobynet is great as it is, speaking personally, but I spend most of my time in muppets haha

Good job Sir Webby and Mods

ThrustSSC

Who are we to criticise, mods? I assume you give up your time for free, and I'm grateful to you for that.

99.9% of the time I think the forums and the moderating are spot on, so do we really need to use up your time worrying about the other 0.1%? I think not.

The only (constructive! ) criticism I'd offer is the suggestion that you be more robust in standing up to the threats of bullies who threaten to wave lawyers' letters at you. I'm afraid that at present I'm left with the impression of a lack of backbone when issues like this come up. This is an open forum for discussion - if a dealer doesn't like something written about them, tell them to come on here in the first instance and defend themselves. Then allow us to judge who is right and who is wrong. Similarly when someone advertises something for sale on here then doesn't deliver the goods. Or when someone buys something and bounces the cheque.

Only when the issue itself is subject to legal action should a thread be deleted if that is necessary to avoid adversely affecting the legal process. And it should be replaced by a thread explaining the background to the action.

We should not be so terrified of legal action. The reality is that the threat of it is used as a tool by too many to oppress free speech - and if ScoobyNet is not about free speech, we're wasting our time!

BexTait

Keep up the good work!

SC008Y_MAD

iTrader: (5)

Moderators...you all do a great job, so just keep it up

flat4

not had any issues with any modding on here you're doing a sterling job


i do find that the subscriber forums have been a bit of a failure though

mj

exactly, BRING ON THE TRASH CAN