STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

What? You'll have to explain what you're getting at there.

I understand having to dedicate yourself fully to the thing you are aiming to achieve and it's easier to do so in your twenties due to other comitments, family etc. The commitment I admire greatly it's just the lengths people will go to regarding the use of drugs that I can't comprehend.

Question for you.... Do you think that the use of drugs in BB has advanced the 'sport' or do you think it would be better if they had never been used at all?

The way I see it it's a keeping up with the jones thing. 'He's done this to look like that therefore for me to do the same so must I'. It's for this reason that I agree with No performance enhancing drugs in sport.

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Nothing to do with what I'm getting at. I'm trying to point out the lengths people will go to in the name of BB to achieve a result that is ultimately bad for them. It to me just goes against the whole ethos of what I though BB was mena to be about....... maybe I'm wrong

super_si

how bad sides we talking........... alot lot worse then Enan

milo

pretty horrendous and a LOT worse than test enan.

night sweats, insomnia, bad mood, paranoia, REALLY hard shut down, major atrophy and of course gyno from tren is a LOT harder to control than enan.

but at the end of the day, the drugs that do the best have the worst sides.. comes with the territory.

that why i always recommend test enan first.. see how you respond on a mild drug.

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

milo, you may ignore this question as I expect you probably will but are the results worth all that? Is it the results that are the motivation for doing it in the first place or is it the winning in a competition?

I guess I already know the answer in that some people will do or take anything in some situations in order to win/achieve something etc. It just depends on how far you would go personally.

super_si

So why still do it lol??

Whats your opinion on abombs and test compared to just abombs alone

milo

to me its worth it, yes, or i wouldnt be doing it. i totally acknowledge that its an obsession, but its hardly the worst obsession you could have. besides, you could go thru life doing all the things that would enable you to live to 100+ years old by giving up everything that would make you WANT to live to 100+. its a trade-off. you only live once.. might as well do it huge and ripped if thats what makes u happy.

is what we do dangerous? maybe. is it more dangerous than drinking/smoking/recreational drug use? probably not. something ludicrious like 80% of all male american high school athletes have admitted to using steroids. thats a LOT of people. how often do you read headlines of "kid killed by steroid use?".. not too often, and they're the people who are abusing these drugs at too young of an age. and the people who are running intelligent cycles at the right age, with the right knowledge are laughing.

as for side effects, with the exception of GH, sides are largely temporary. will i give up a good night's sleep for a few weeks and sweat my *** off to gain an extra 10-15lbs of lbm and throw up a bunch more weight? damn straight.

remember, we're doing things a LOT safer than 20-30 years ago, when guys would pop dbol like candy and never come off. **** they didnt even know what PCT was. those guys back then are still around in the majority today, and in general look great (schwarzenegger is a prime example).

milo

why still do it? the results. speak to anyone who's run a tren cycle, and the vast majority rarely do a cycle WITHOUT tren once running one

imo test should always feature in a cycle... thats a given. as for abombs, they're the most powerful oral you can take just about.. and give the worst sides. the gains you get from anadrol will be largely temporary water retention. save this for when u really need it. if you're intent on having a drug in there for quick results and the "feel good" factor while on enan, use dbol instead of anadrol.. but even then i say dont bother.. no point in gaining mass in water just to lose it again post-cycle. much better to pick drugs that give solid lbm gains that wont vanish when you come off.

moses

milo whats this tren thing, where can i get it

cheers

and my plan is to loose as much fat as possible and then train like an animal and get my body tattood all over and pierced again




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slipknot symbol
corey taylor from slipknots face tattoo
my daughter mujahida's name in arabic
samurai kenji tattoo on my back , same logo i use on my samurai motorsports business and my own personal tattoo
and probably a dragon, i was born in 1976 yr of the dragon and some other arabic tattoos all over

man it would look like bob de niro in cape fear and robbie williams my hero and tommy t bone lee

moses

by the way i just ordered this whey protein powder, been told its good


http://www.affordablesupplements.co....asp?prodid=403


havent ordered this yet, suppose to give u strength, any comments or anyone used them before

thanks


http://www.affordablesupplements.co....asp?prodid=860

milo

tren is for extremely advanced bodybuilders only.

the whey protein you posted is fine and should be used post-workout. its not going to give you any sudden strength increases tho if thats what you're expecting.

moses

just to build up mass bros, thats all i aint eating much proteins at the mo, so gonna kick start it with that

cheers again

super_si

in your situation get your **** down the gym religously for 2-3-4-5-6 months then come back asking roid advice.

Diets the key to it all!

S

POC

si is talking sense Moses, even considering taking steriods to shift fat is nonsense.

Get down the gym, increase protein intake and cut the simple carbs, eat clean and often..... less calories in and more burnt will get the desired effect.

Forget this quick fix rubbish and put in the hard work you lazy fat b4stard (theres some motivation for you!)

(personaly I think this is all a windup anyway)

P

SJ_Skyline

Ditto POC's most eloquent comments

POC

cruel to be kind eh Rich Hes a stupid ****** anyway, he will be posting in a few months time in search of a kidney doner

SJ_Skyline

mmm.... Kebab....

super_si

lol so diplomatic paul but you need some people need a kick in the **** like that!!

moses

thanks si im gonna try it for a month mate, i need to bud, i will regret it if i dont, i just got my winstrol stancolol, bloody hell, i aint took it yet, but its scary, alot of side effects, seems to mess up the liver. i may lay off that for a while

but im gonna switch to clen and gaba gamma aminobutyric acid and e form spray


poc lol hows u bud, u want some for free bud, it will come in handy, u will look sexy again haha but that winstrol, hmm it says either your sex life will get better or worse, i dont feel like risking it

what car u got now mate

lol @ rich and donners haha, nice one bud

yoza

A lad at our gym has just had a heart attack from using Growth and Steroid combo.

29 YOA wife and two kids in nappies....

He's not dead but he is fcuked up....

Dont bother.

moses

is this true can winstrol give man big **** if it goes wrong

this stuff

Gynecomastia

bloody hell yoza

im not gonna go mad with it, clen maybe 2 max

and winstrol only 2 x 10mg tabs

yoza

Your heart is a muscle, it beats all the time (if your lucky) therefore it gets what ever your injecting or popping.

You train, it beats harder, it grows, the valves harden, and eventually you die.....

Dosage is a delicate thing, not enough=waste of time, too much=heart attack.

Do you want to gamble ?

I did, for years, had two scares, and still did........but Im stupid, are you ?

I even took **** that said for " Vetenary use only ", SILLY, SILLY. SILLY...

moses

haha, man u are mad

i dont want to risk it bud, but its tempting i wont be doing it full time at all mate




by the way chelsea vs barcelona, what a game is gonna be

super_si

winny cant give you bitch ****, you dont even need to PCT coming off it

S

moses

whats pct mate im a novice and thanks mate, i was not gonna take it coz i dont wanna suffer bitch ****, now i can try it haha

mate i have to say, man ephedrine hcl the safe one even is good, i started seeing some muscles through my fat now, God willing cant wait for the day when i see it all including my veins as well will be cool, like my younger days

milo

you certainly do need PCT coming off of it! winstrol shuts you down.. hence you run PCT.

milo

so you know a dude who abused steroids, didn't have regular health checks, and paid for it?

i heard of someone who got run over crossing the street. better not cross the street either, eh?

super_si

winny and winstrols the same isnt it??
As above my mate was on them, he didnt need pct i was told ?!!?

milo

all the best gear is vetinary use only

milo

yes, they're the same and you do need PCT.

it shuts you down (albeit not as bad as some drugs, but it does shut you down nonetheless), so you need proper recovery in place.

just because he did it wrong doesn't mean you should too

PCT is ludicriously cheap.. its not worth the risk of not running it.