Would an XR2 make a good track day car?
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i owned both a 1.9 gti and a clio 16v for 1 year each and found the clio had the edge over the 205. i made the mistake of getting a rs turbo fiesta after the clio and found the hanndling wasn't as good at all(understeer city!).
for a stripped out track car an mi16 205 will be a good choice but you will pay for a good one.
for a stripped out track car an mi16 205 will be a good choice but you will pay for a good one.
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Is a 1990 XR2 your thinking of a MK3 shape?
Better off with a MK1 or MK2 XR2 for fun and speed plus they are more simple and thus easier to modify and repair. And the advantage that you would get far better response from engine mods (zetec upgrade etc).
The Mk3's are alot heavier - better chassis, and slightly better handling and manners, but if your after a MK3 then there is only one type to go for IMO:
...The RS1800 with the 130bhp engine (engine code RQB or RQC) as the XR2 (1.6 CVH and 1.8 105bhp zetec) versions lack the nessercery grunt to get it moving.
Better off with a MK1 or MK2 XR2 for fun and speed plus they are more simple and thus easier to modify and repair. And the advantage that you would get far better response from engine mods (zetec upgrade etc).
The Mk3's are alot heavier - better chassis, and slightly better handling and manners, but if your after a MK3 then there is only one type to go for IMO:
...The RS1800 with the 130bhp engine (engine code RQB or RQC) as the XR2 (1.6 CVH and 1.8 105bhp zetec) versions lack the nessercery grunt to get it moving.
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Look what ive found thecirsch!!!
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Sounds like a good deal as you would have some spares.
Would like to get a 205 meself as a little runaround.
My step day had one and said it handled like a dream. Said it was like driving a go-kart until he wrote it off.
Not his or the cars fault by the way.
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Sounds like a good deal as you would have some spares.
Would like to get a 205 meself as a little runaround.
My step day had one and said it handled like a dream. Said it was like driving a go-kart until he wrote it off.
Not his or the cars fault by the way.
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Thanks for all you help and suggestions.
However, as of 2 o'clock today I have become a proud owner of a 1.6 Pug Cheers Lord Lucan
Anyone wanna buy a Capri 1.6 Lazer??
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388846
However, as of 2 o'clock today I have become a proud owner of a 1.6 Pug Cheers Lord Lucan
Anyone wanna buy a Capri 1.6 Lazer??
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=388846
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get the 205 - they handle like a dream
first time you are out on track with the car pick a nice wide corner with plenty run off, give it some into the corner then lift off.
make sure there is no one behind you though
they are great once you learn not to back off on the corner but sometimes you have to if you are up behind the car in front, the reason i said go for the clio is they don't have this problem as you will know, if you back off on a corner it will just slide out.
if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for the pug???
do you have any photo's yet???
pleased you didn't get a golf, don't like the way they handle at all!
have fun
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Jonny,
I'm planning to go to Bedford on the 26th Feb (SIDC day, call Phil Stephens for details!!) and run it there. I understand there's plenty of room, just in case I get it 'wrong' . It'll give me the chance to kick Gangsta Smurfs' @rse as well
At the moment, I have paid 175.00 for the car. That's before Lord Lucan pays the cheque in. Have you done that yet J?? Lets just say all parties are VERY happy
See below for piccies. It was for sale on here a couple of months ago, therefore they are NOT my photo's. Hopefully the guy who did take them doesn't mind me using them.
http://www.mtivity.net/temp/side.jpg
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http://www.mtivity.net/temp/interior.jpg
Thanks for the words of support
I'm planning to go to Bedford on the 26th Feb (SIDC day, call Phil Stephens for details!!) and run it there. I understand there's plenty of room, just in case I get it 'wrong' . It'll give me the chance to kick Gangsta Smurfs' @rse as well
At the moment, I have paid 175.00 for the car. That's before Lord Lucan pays the cheque in. Have you done that yet J?? Lets just say all parties are VERY happy
See below for piccies. It was for sale on here a couple of months ago, therefore they are NOT my photo's. Hopefully the guy who did take them doesn't mind me using them.
http://www.mtivity.net/temp/side.jpg
http://www.mtivity.net/temp/front.jpg
http://www.mtivity.net/temp/interior.jpg
Thanks for the words of support
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Originally Posted by jonny gav
errrm...... not if you lift off mid corner they don't!
Originally Posted by jonny gav
pleased you didn't get a golf, don't like the way they handle at all!
Originally Posted by jonny gav
have fun
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How about a 309 Gti? Same basic mechanicals as the 205 even down to sharing the same doors, just about as quick, and it handles better than the 205, eliminating the 205's habit of lift off oversteer.
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Ed - will do it tomorrow... knew there was something I forgot to do today...he he.
Ed paid £675 which was approximately what the car owed me. I bought it from here in Oct but the job I bought it for fell through. Yes I could have sold it for a lot more, it really is a good one, 1 female owner for 10 yrs !! But Ed will do what I would have loved to do with the car, plus I didnt have to advertise it etc etc, was such an easy sale to a top fella....!!!
I have even got a pax ride in the car promised from Ed if I make Bedford.
Now dont you wish all car sales were like this...
J.
Ed paid £675 which was approximately what the car owed me. I bought it from here in Oct but the job I bought it for fell through. Yes I could have sold it for a lot more, it really is a good one, 1 female owner for 10 yrs !! But Ed will do what I would have loved to do with the car, plus I didnt have to advertise it etc etc, was such an easy sale to a top fella....!!!
I have even got a pax ride in the car promised from Ed if I make Bedford.
Now dont you wish all car sales were like this...
J.
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Dont be such a girls blouse! Yeah the back end can step out, but its more controllable than the Mk2 XR2, once they go (dead rear axle) they REALLY go, and theres no coming back!
better to be safe than put it backwards into the tyre wall, after all, the idea is to have fun
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if only f1's or proxes were available back when i ran one, in fact, this thread has got me thinking......
hummm............a cheap track car.............that would make a good birthday prezzie
hummm............a cheap track car.............that would make a good birthday prezzie
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I have an XR2i Trackcar
1990 8v version
it may only have a 1.6 cvh with 110 bhp but with it being sat on coilovers and having huge cosworth brakes it handles like a dream, i've put a few higher powered cars to shame at donnington, including a impreza.
i must admit though, the cvh does lack the grunt required when on the straights, however, due to a recent engine failure its now got a 2.0 zetec going into to it as we speak .
oh, cost me £200 in march this year, spent 3k since
1990 8v version
it may only have a 1.6 cvh with 110 bhp but with it being sat on coilovers and having huge cosworth brakes it handles like a dream, i've put a few higher powered cars to shame at donnington, including a impreza.
i must admit though, the cvh does lack the grunt required when on the straights, however, due to a recent engine failure its now got a 2.0 zetec going into to it as we speak .
oh, cost me £200 in march this year, spent 3k since
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definatley a golf, the pug will break - as i've seen many times. I track an '86 audi quattro (sometimes), and it just keeps going @190k miles i know the engine is a 5 cyl but its based on the golf's 4 and thats just as strong. Every track event I attend there is atleast a couple of people who have to fix something on a pug. If you buy a golf get a pre 1990 model, no engine electronics and they're cheaper.
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Originally Posted by lordlucan
Ed - will do it tomorrow... knew there was something I forgot to do today...he he.
Ed paid £675 which was approximately what the car owed me. I bought it from here in Oct but the job I bought it for fell through. Yes I could have sold it for a lot more, it really is a good one, 1 female owner for 10 yrs !! But Ed will do what I would have loved to do with the car, plus I didnt have to advertise it etc etc, was such an easy sale to a top fella....!!!
I have even got a pax ride in the car promised from Ed if I make Bedford.
Now dont you wish all car sales were like this...
J.
Ed paid £675 which was approximately what the car owed me. I bought it from here in Oct but the job I bought it for fell through. Yes I could have sold it for a lot more, it really is a good one, 1 female owner for 10 yrs !! But Ed will do what I would have loved to do with the car, plus I didnt have to advertise it etc etc, was such an easy sale to a top fella....!!!
I have even got a pax ride in the car promised from Ed if I make Bedford.
Now dont you wish all car sales were like this...
J.
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