blot

DaveGTT

www.richersounds.co.uk

It's the LG MZ42PZ45V I got, note the price includes at home warranty, leaving plenty to spend in K-Tec's January sales.........if only

davegtt

in ktecs january sales? another GTT owners eh? I wouldnt be spending with KTEC though lol

blot

GTT? Yup, mine should have been sponsored by Chubb Extinguishers this year. So what telly are you getting then??

I'd have liked a B&O one but found the £13K hard to justify........

davegtt

what do you do hill climbing?

Im looking at the panasonic PW7 atm, just working out what boards are needed to connect it all up etc etc....

Iain Young

On my PW6 I went for the component board. I run everything through the av amplifier (sky box, xbox, dvd etc), and out via component video to the plasma.

Picture looks great.

Don't believe everything that people have said about 2k plasmas being naff. Some of them are, but the Panasonics are definitely not. In fact in many reviews they have been compared very favourably with the much more expensive Pioneer screens.

I will upgrade to a decent lcd at some point, but it's going to be a few years before they're good enough, so the panny will do for now

blot

Only at Cadwell Park Just messing with the car so far on track/airfield days, car itself was in the celebration Thruxton race tho' .

Whoever you buy the plasma from, check first that they have a wall mounting bracket in stock and how much they are (if that's what your doing) some brackets are an exhorbitant price

Schumacher

Nope! Component video is the best possible connection. I could sit here and explain it, but best way is to to type 'component video' into google and you'll know what I'm talking about.

cheers,

-Schuey

davegtt

Iain, thanks for the info.

Blot, you a member of RTOC by any chance? I was at thruxton not so long ago for the anniversay what a cracking day it was Met some really good people including the likes of Mark Fish, had a good look round all the race cars etc......

blot

Yup, don't post on their website much tho', Thruxton was a top weekend, especially watching it on my Plasma afterwards on Motosport UK!!Take it your an RTOCer too.
We had the pit garage next to Perry McCarthy, used to be Prima's 2nd car. I did feel a bit of a Clampett that weekend, what with Mr Fish's huge transporter etc, I had Shogun, trailer & tent!!

davegtt

yeah Im a commoner on RTOC (10k posts worth) although I dont post there very often anymore which is a shame. wasnt the white motor with Scorpian (ex sponsor I presume) on it? superb car.... probably abour 10k miles overall on the clock eh as per most cars.

there was a few of us at thurxton, proper entusiast here as are many of the regular lads. You should get involved mate, the club is crying out for people like yourself to take us away from the max power image. if only more people stood up for what the reno was for rather than boy racering as it was we'd get recognised for what the pug 205 wasnt

Diesel

OK mate if you say so - is that component as in YUV or Y R-Y B-Y or do you call it that confusing Cr Cb thing which I think refers to colour difference in Japanese!

Never heard of it myself but I could give you a hand with the algebra to derive the green

D

PS RGB IS a component source but is not somewhat compressed like YUV, but then what do I know !!!!

Apparition

Well we got one last August and we are pleased to bits with it. Its a Hitachi 43" . Just make sure you get many many Pixels? whatever those things are that make the picture. Think hard about fixing it to a wall, they are Bladdy heavy. Make sure your wall can take the strain.

NorthDave

Yes mate, I can do the 435 - HDE for £3450, delivered, including VAT.

email me at dave@drc.uk.com if you're interested.

Cheers

Dave

DavidBrown

I thought HDMI had the greatest picture bandwidth currently, and delivered the best quality.

Component is analogue, whereas HDMI is digital. So watching a DVD on a plasma via components is a Digital > Analogue > Digital process, whereas HDMI on compliant equipment is digital all the way.

Schumacher

DVDs are encoded in component video!. This is a big step forward since VHS tapes and laserdiscs are encoded in composite video. So the signal information in those media is already diminished and compromised. But DVD is a different animal—not only is it more compact and easy to use, but a much higher quality format is on the DVD itself. All you need to do is take advantage of it.
To do that, you need a DVD player with component video output, and a television or projector with component video input. You can connect the two with a three-wire component video cable. When you do this, you transfer the high quality signal from the DVD straight into your display system without it ever being converted to composite video. The result—better detail, a cleaner picture, and more accurate and richer color.

The way to get the best DVD picture is to use component video connections (if you have them) between your DVD player and your TV or projector. Component-progressive is preferred when you have both progressive and interlaced options.
For the vast majority of DVD users who don't have component capability in either their players or their display systems, the next best thing is S-video.

HDMI uses one connector instead of several cables. Whereas the component video is just as good through three dedicated connectors.

-Schuey

C h a z

Best picture source if you are not using DVI or HDMI is RGBHV so you can both shut up:P
Best screen out there at the moment for reasonable money is the Pioneer. Best budget screen I would say is the Panasonic. Hitachi is OK but I don't rate the build quality.
Scart is better than S-VHS if you are using it to send RGB signals, if you have not enabled your DVD player and Screen to accept these you will be looking at composite video which is nowhere near as good.

Any further questions?


www.visionarysystemsuk.com
www.majikhouse.com

Mods feel free to remove these links if you feel the need, just trying to show what I do for a living.

Floyd

iTrader: (9)

Chaz, yes I have a question. I liked the look of the SAGEM rear projector but I think it was displaying HD DVD for display purposes. What will it be like on normal media?

F

DavidBrown

From HDMI.org ---

"What are the advantages of HDMI over existing analog interfaces such as composite, S-Video and component video? "

Quality: HDMI transfers uncompressed digital audio and video for the highest, crispest image quality.

All-Digital: HDMI ensures an all-digital rendering of video without the losses associated with analog interfaces and their unnecessary digital-to-analog conversions.

Low-cost: HDMI provides the quality and functionality of a digital interface while also supporting uncompressed video formats in a simple, cost-effective manner.

Audio: HDMI supports multiple audio formats, from standard stereo to multi-channel surround-sound.

Ease-of-use: HDMI combines video and multi-channel audio into a single cable, eliminating the cost, complexity, and confusion of multiple cables currently used in A/V systems.

Intelligence: HDMI supports two-way communication between the video source (such as a DVD player) and the DTV, enabling new functionality.

Diesel

Well that's shut me up Chaz - I only deal with billions of ££££'s worth of broadcast equipment, not a couple of plasma screens and a scart lead on the wrong menu input setting (Check www.itv.com . [Huge tongue in cheek hereccccccccccccccc]

Seriously glad you agree with me on the RGB (albeit with separate 4th wire V sync) - it goes straight into the cathode’s bottoms with no mucking about !!!

Actually I never heard of HDMI but it sounds just like Firewire (what's the bitrate?). Our broadcast VT's can use a 'SIFF' single cable solution which has embedded PCM audio - handy when you are cabling

Shuey DVD to me is not really component (the crisp analogue component signals I know are never compressed at up to 100:1). DVD is MPEG2 with a max bitrate of 8Mbs and other compression/pixel def limitations but what you say about connecting a DVD to a telly makes total sense.

D

DavidBrown

5 Gbps (I think firewire is 0.8 Gbps)

Reading some more..

"HDMI is the first and only digital interface for Consumer Electronics devices that can carry:


Uncompressed high-definition video
Compressed or uncompressed multi-channel audio
Intelligent format & command data

Customer Benefits of HDMI:

100% Digital
No Compression, no conversion
Pure digital picture and sound direct from the source (as it was meant to be seen and heard)
Video and Audio signal remains digital from output device to display device
Best quality sound and picture
Bandwidth to spare for HDTV
1080p capable and beyond
Over two times 1080i bandwidth
Includes YUV color space support "

Diesel

Now that's one quick pipe esp as DVD is 'only' 8MBps Do the cables get hot

C h a z

Floyd, I havent seen the SAGEM so wouldn't really like to comment. My advice would be to ask the vendor if you can see it on the source that you will most likely use it on, Sky, DVD etc.
Diesel, separate 4th and 5th wires, one for horizontal one for vertical thats what I'm running my Runco/Nec on at the moment.

One the whole LCD vs plasma at the moment it will depend upon what sixe you want. If you want a 50" flat panel you will have to go plasma if you want a 26" panel you would have to go LCD. The only real crossover is 37", where there are still more LCD to choose from than plasmas.

Floyd

iTrader: (9)

I'd not considered rear projection before seeing the Sagem. IIRC it was less than a foot deep as well so wouldn't take up too much space. If it displayed Sky and normal DVD well then I'd give it serious consideration. Good price too as well as compatible with up and coming HDTV

F

SideShowBob

I recently changed from CRT to a Viera 37", and have to say im very impressed with it.
You dont seem to get the fluid quality of a CRT, but in every other way its superior, though of course it depends what CRT you're coming from.

If it has to be a 42, you may struggle to get a good enough quality screen for under £2k, the 37 Viera was £2k on the nose, which included the (very nice) stand, but anything above 37 gets quite a bit more expensive.

I know 42 is quite a size difference, but now we have the 37 in the lounge, its pretty obvious a 42 would have been just a tad OTT, would you be able to get away with a better quality 37 as opposed to a 42?

blot

Fair comment, get the feeling that most RTOCs are more into 1/4mile stuff, which just doesn't interest me I'm afraid, which is probably why I'm on Scoobynet a lot! Tend to use RTOC as a technical guide.

Am still hoping that something comes from the Thruxton race in terms of annual race or retro series, seemed loads of interest at the time but all now quiet. Shame really.

davegtt

Yeah RTOC is into the 1/4 mile which is great, alot seem to want to get into the track day stuff but unfortunately it proves too expensive for many.

I know they are looking at doing the thruxton thing once a year although nowts been confirmed. Everyone who was involved loved it and said it should be done once a year so I can see why it wouldnt take off again (providing they get some better quality food stalls at cheaper prices £7.50 for a sausage bap )

blot

LOL I found the free food and free alcohol in the renault hospitality very reasonable all weekend

MattN

I've been considering the 37" Panasonic - but it appears it is justa display screen I.e. no tuner etc.

As I use freeview would I just need a terminal board I.e. scart to make it work?

Diesel

I'm sure the plasma will have component/s-vid/RGB/composite inputs mate.

Can you get RGB off the freeview box, and if so it's a matter of gettig the right lead to connect it up. As you suggest the display may not have have a SCART...

r32

We have a PANASONIC 37" and its has its own tuner, you can get either, and its just fantastic. Had it for some time and no regrets, except the wife doesnt like the stand WE picked|!
Believe me its fine for moving subjects, picture is perfect, I can recommend them. We did a lot of homework and wouldnt buy a cheap one based on plenty of feedback from the forums and such..... dont look at the ones in places like Dixons or Comet, they are not set up with a good feed. Go to a specialist shop.
STEVE......