fallwood

And how many 1000's does that cost, may as well just buy a better car, hmmm how about a scooby !!!.

TaviaRS

I'll skip on the Scoob if you don't mind - Burberry doesn't suit me

fallwood

Well dont wear it then , not to sound like im biting but the scooby/chav debate is extremely boring and irrelevant to the dicussion. Just because a few little ******* have saved up their pocket money to buy a banged up old scooby to fly around in doesnt mean that the rest of us highly refined individuals have to be compared to them. Bottom line is loads of cash to turbo a CTR (got to lower compression and a ton of other stuff), thats why i came from the ITR to a scooby , lots of easy power for not a lot of money. Compare 16 grand for a CTR to 18500 for a scooby , spend 4 grand on a turbo conversion for the ctr and you are up to 20 grand , spend 1500 on the scoob and it would whup the CTR big time.

Dark Blue Mark

You *have* to wear a baseball hat to drive a CTR, its the new Saxo

On a serious note, I cringe when anyone brings up the topic of "this versus that"

These threads follow a very similar formula of question, then argument, statement of fact and formula etc, tales of I whipped him driving a roller skate, then degenerates into an abusive slagging match!

If you want to know, find two people who have the car and go play with them

MB

TaviaRS

Ah, but an EVO would beat them both

As for an M3...........

I'm not in any way biased as I drive a ridiculously slow diesel Skoda

chrisp

if you get 50 scoobynetters on a thread you end up with 75 opinions

monty baber

I'll buy a ctr when i'm too old to reach for a normally positioned gearstick lol

alwong

This topic has been riased so many times. Why can't someone arrange a trackday between these cars?? CTR's Classic scoobs, Bugeyes, Blobeyes! Conversation would be over.

Dark Blue Mark

No, there would still be people who wouldn't have it. You'd get "But it was a cold day and that's not fair cos its more of a gain on a forced induced motor" and "well I was on a slightly harder compound and it was hot so i lost some time here and there" and "my clutch was slipping"



MB

monty baber

I'll ring the Stig to see when he is avaliable

chrisp

if you want to come and play at santa pod no problem, normally plenty of scoobs to have a run at

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

I'd like to get an ITR...

fallwood

Fantastic car but hard to live with, the noise gets very tiring very quickly . Handling is better than the scoob IMO its easier to drive on the limit. Mods cost a fortune, cost me over 2.5 grand to have a re-map (850, had to be a custom job), hks header (350) ,full hks stainless (900), hks decat pipe (250) and viper induction kit (280) , probably cheaper now but when I did it bits were hard to come by, all for a measly 40bhp, scoobys cost me about 500 quid so far and its pushing 270bhp with still more to come. As a second car I would have kept it if I had the cash. I assume the CTR would cost similar amounts to mod. I bring the cost of modding into the equation as its a deciding factor when I buy a car, if it can be modded easily Im more likely to buy it hence the jump to a scooby. CTR is a boys car , scooby/ITR is a mans car, if your a boy get a CTR if your a man get a scooby/ITR.

blot

And if you want to go fast buy a........

fallwood

[QUOTE=blot]And if you want to go fast buy a........[/QUOTE

Are we talking fast or FAAAST. Neither the scoob ITR or CTR are FAAAST merely quite rapid, if we're talking real speed then the ride I had in a friends 700bhp skyline would have to be it , seriously mental but ugly as f**ck. oops getting off subject here, for sheer thrill you just cant beat a vtec but for extreme power with minimum fuss you cant beat a sccoob. Just think that i'd look daft in a CTR as I am big (obviously all muscle) and the CTR is small and dainty looking.

blot

We are talking FFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTT and beautiful

chrisp

and expensive

fallwood

Money no object a DB9, maybe next year (HA HA HA) , sticking to a sub 20g budget I cant think of anything to be honest, I dont think anything in the sub 50g range is mental fast unless your gonna spend a s**t load on it.

blot

fallwood

If I was 18 again I would probably go for the CTR as it I think its a car for the younger person, now im knocking on a bit i find the refined power delivery (compared to a vtec) and smoother ride of the scoob to be more soothing on my brittle old bones.

The Incredible Hulk

Just to put another spin on this thread (I'm surprised its still going - but then here I am adding my thoughts).

In my ITR I didn't need to go fast to enjoy it, I find in the subaru it tends to be the other way - go figure!! Luckily being a bristol ring road user means that fast is a relatively high 5mph in the morning 'rush hour'.

Kevin

P.S. Why do they call it the rush hour, when it is anything but??

Kevin

blot

My memory of a CTR is that it's for a person with good eyesight, so that you can see the 20 yards from the steering wheel to the windscreen. Had one for a day whilst my motor was in the garage, top of dash seemed to stretch forever, hated the gear lever, wouldn't mind one of the BTCC versions tho'.

If I was struggling to get out of low cars then DB9 would indeed be high on the list, until all my fillings fall out, I shall put up with fast and beautiful

alwong

I think the gearstick in the ctr is in an excellent position. Feels very comfortable but odd looking.

jasonius

iTrader: (1)

Exactly..!
But it must be someone you know to be up for it, ideally someone you know personally.

Just like a certain CTR driver proved to us all by arranging a run with a freind in an AMG E55 to prove he could beat him on the straight...........!

Now what was his name...?

scoobydood

Thanks for the video clips... Excellent quality! Is it my imagination or does the 2nd "standard" Scooby seem to pull away from the Honda faster than the first "modified" Scooby down the straight? Anyway these video's don't prove much for either party... I watched a video clip of a Scoob on track eating up everything in sight including Lotus 7's - Exige etc etc - and it was just down to a damned good driver 'cause the Scoob was standard... ANd we all know it doesn't stand a hope against those cars with equal drivers!

What I love about my Scoob is just ever so gently squeezing the throttle to overtake at anything above 3000rpm and feeling the rush as it blasts away. Go try that in a Honda.... :-)

Dark Blue Mark

Jasonius, I remeber that thread from somewhere....

MB

Civic Type R

Cheers Scoobdood - suppose it was just down to different drivers ? Either way they weren't exactly shruggin' me off

fallwood

Stange isnt it, when I had my ITR i would download loads of video where the ITR was thrashing a scooby , now I find myself downloading loads of video where the scooby is thrashing the ITR.