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04 January 2005, 07:01 PM
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......yeah but look how much road the McLaren F1 needed to get to 240mph 
http://www.mclarencars.com/content/video/twof.mov (right click, save as)
0-200 was 28 sec i think though
http://www.mclarencars.com/content/video/twof.mov (right click, save as)
0-200 was 28 sec i think though
04 January 2005, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
I agree, but to prepare a competative car is very expensive & in my case at least 2 nights in a Hotel etc. For What!!. A new clutch would be minimum requirement for a pre-event service & all in I would say 4k to arrive on the day.
Would be competative in RWD but not a winner these days, surely you know what ****e we take in the Cossie scene if we dont win.
Reached the Final in a previous year & still got slated. Nah!! my decision to concentrate on raising the Topspeed record is the correct one.
Cheers Rod
Would be competative in RWD but not a winner these days, surely you know what ****e we take in the Cossie scene if we dont win.
Reached the Final in a previous year & still got slated. Nah!! my decision to concentrate on raising the Topspeed record is the correct one.
Cheers Rod
rc and norris use their evo's, crd run a supra, abbey use ronnies car, sumo have their r34 (or did until they sold it, now doin a 33). see what i mean. for an average guy on an average wage the thought of modding/spending on a car enough for challenging top honours at totb would be daunting, but i dont understand why cossie tuners dont do it. even if its just for good pr.
05 January 2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
McLaren F1 only needed 627bhp to do 240.14mph
Yeah... but what is the cd of a F1 vs a sapphire cosworth?
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McLaren F1 only needed 627bhp to do 240.14mph
Yeah... but what is the cd of a F1 vs a sapphire cosworth?
David
05 January 2005, 03:54 PM
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i see what you mean. mind you, not being familiar with cosworth tuners, but dont any of them use totb for publicity purposes?
rc and norris use their evo's, crd run a supra, abbey use ronnies car, sumo have their r34 (or did until they sold it, now doin a 33). see what i mean. for an average guy on an average wage the thought of modding/spending on a car enough for challenging top honours at totb would be daunting, but i dont understand why cossie tuners dont do it. even if its just for good pr.
rc and norris use their evo's, crd run a supra, abbey use ronnies car, sumo have their r34 (or did until they sold it, now doin a 33). see what i mean. for an average guy on an average wage the thought of modding/spending on a car enough for challenging top honours at totb would be daunting, but i dont understand why cossie tuners dont do it. even if its just for good pr.
Its hard to compete with the big boys that have in house dynos and plenty of parts / experience at their disposal...
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05 January 2005, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Originally Posted by chrisp
McLaren F1 only needed 627bhp to do 240.14mph
Yeah... but what is the cd of a F1 vs a sapphire cosworth?
David
McLaren F1 only needed 627bhp to do 240.14mph
Yeah... but what is the cd of a F1 vs a sapphire cosworth?
David
The frontal area is 1.79M sq
So the CDa (the really important figure) is .573
Sierra Cosworth is .34 cd but larger frontal area of 1.97M sq
So the CDa is .669
05 January 2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
CD of F1 is .32
The frontal area is 1.79M sq
So the CDa (the really important figure) is .573
Sierra Cosworth is .34 cd but larger frontal area of 1.97M sq
So the CDa is .669
The frontal area is 1.79M sq
So the CDa (the really important figure) is .573
Sierra Cosworth is .34 cd but larger frontal area of 1.97M sq
So the CDa is .669
05 January 2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Spudgun R32
i see what you mean. mind you, not being familiar with cosworth tuners, but dont any of them use totb for publicity purposes?
rc and norris use their evo's, crd run a supra, abbey use ronnies car, sumo have their r34 (or did until they sold it, now doin a 33). see what i mean. for an average guy on an average wage the thought of modding/spending on a car enough for challenging top honours at totb would be daunting, but i dont understand why cossie tuners dont do it. even if its just for good pr.
rc and norris use their evo's, crd run a supra, abbey use ronnies car, sumo have their r34 (or did until they sold it, now doin a 33). see what i mean. for an average guy on an average wage the thought of modding/spending on a car enough for challenging top honours at totb would be daunting, but i dont understand why cossie tuners dont do it. even if its just for good pr.
05 January 2005, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
They can be made to go fairly quick.
This is mine
http://www.zetecturbo.com/sunny_pics...bhp_madcos.wmv"
200+mph makes it the fastest Street legal Cossie ever.
This is mine
http://www.zetecturbo.com/sunny_pics...bhp_madcos.wmv"
200+mph makes it the fastest Street legal Cossie ever.
05 January 2005, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Are you aware Rod that Andy is having his engine rebuilt? No, I thought not.
I wish Andy well
but it changes nothing ive said, times must be achieved & few do it.
Rod
ps. Some facts to help him know what he should achieve (MAD cars in PF)
Adrian did 185.5 with 520bhp
Dave did 178.5 with 465bhp
Mine did 183.3 with less than 500bhp
05 January 2005, 07:38 PM
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LMAO.. he is well aware of what is necessary! He has done 176.9mph on stage 6 boost setting with 501bhp 
You should know that - you were there! I believe he was very close to your speed that day at Brunters! Sorry Rod, but your advice means sweet FA - thats only MAD times!
You should know that - you were there! I believe he was very close to your speed that day at Brunters! Sorry Rod, but your advice means sweet FA - thats only MAD times!
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05 January 2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
McLaren F1 only needed 627bhp to do 240.14mph
My car was faster 0-180 than the Macca but then hits a wall in the early 190's.
Huge ammounts of Power then needed to get over 200.
Will be back soon with approx 70 more Horses but dont expect to get past 205.
The Rocket did 205.8 with a 1000bhp & I doubt mine can beat that ever.
Rod
05 January 2005, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
LMAO.. he is well aware of what is necessary! He has done 176.9mph on stage 6 boost setting with 501bhp You should know that - you were there! I believe he was very close to your speed that day at Brunters! Sorry Rod, but your advice means sweet FA - thats only MAD times!
You should know that - you were there! I believe he was very close to your speed that day at Brunters! Sorry Rod, but your advice means sweet FA - thats only MAD times!Bull**** aint my game as I expect you know only ever quote facts that can be backed up.
Ive had 3 Topspeed events at Brunters best times on the day were 181.8mph & 179.6 in 1.25miles , 183.3 & now 201.8 .
So 176.9 is close to 181.8 your having a Larf , so dont come Large with me till his car has done something.
05 January 2005, 08:05 PM
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Coming large? You are having a laugh aren't you! NOS wasn't even used! Get used to it Rod, MAD ain't the b all and end all - Karl has far more knowledge, whatever you believe or think.
Besides at least Andy drives his car himself! Not like you who only drives it to the local supermarket and back! When you have done it YOURSELF then you can crow as much as you like.... but until then STFU!
NOS wasn't even used! Get used to it Rod, MAD ain't the b all and end all - Karl has far more knowledge, whatever you believe or think. Besides at least Andy drives his car himself! Not like you who only drives it to the local supermarket and back! When you have done it YOURSELF then you can crow as much as you like.... but until then STFU!
05 January 2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Coming large? You are having a laugh aren't you! NOS wasn't even used! Get used to it Rod, MAD ain't the b all and end all - Karl has far more knowledge, whatever you believe or think.
Besides at least Andy drives his car himself! Not like you who only drives it to the local supermarket and back! When you have done it YOURSELF then you can crow as much as you like.... but until then STFU!
NOS wasn't even used! Get used to it Rod, MAD ain't the b all and end all - Karl has far more knowledge, whatever you believe or think. Besides at least Andy drives his car himself! Not like you who only drives it to the local supermarket and back! When you have done it YOURSELF then you can crow as much as you like.... but until then STFU!
Karl has already admitted his car wont attempt to do 200mph at Brunters, ring & ask him.
We use facts at MAD not talk & thats all Karl has ever done up to this point, any time he wants to do battle we are willing.
The other car with an engine like Karls was at the Latest Daddy Thrash it did 169.7 need I go on.
Supposedly mapped the previous day by Karl , only an amateur would allow a car to turn up like that. It lost its sunroof on the second run probably fortunate that.
Rod
ps. Can you issue a challenge to Andy HIM v ME at Brunters.
Will stop all the talk. im sure PF would do it.
05 January 2005, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
If you read the Topspreed Feature you will see who did one of the Topspeed runs my friend , ME. On my 59th Birthday. 198.5mph & Proud of it will be past 200 soon as id never done it before & braked mega early. Andy only has to improve by 21.9 mph to beat that.
Karl has already admitted his car wont attempt to do 200mph at Brunters, ring & ask him.
We use facts at MAD not talk & thats all Karl has ever done up to this point, any time he wants to do battle we are willing.
The other car with an engine like Karls was at the Latest Daddy Thrash it did 169.7 need I go on.
Supposedly mapped the previous day by Karl , only an amateur would allow a car to turn up like that. It lost its sunroof on the second run probably fortunate that.
Rod
ps. Can you issue a challenge to Andy HIM v ME at Brunters.
Will stop all the talk. im sure PF would do it.
Karl has already admitted his car wont attempt to do 200mph at Brunters, ring & ask him.
We use facts at MAD not talk & thats all Karl has ever done up to this point, any time he wants to do battle we are willing.
The other car with an engine like Karls was at the Latest Daddy Thrash it did 169.7 need I go on.
Supposedly mapped the previous day by Karl , only an amateur would allow a car to turn up like that. It lost its sunroof on the second run probably fortunate that.
Rod
ps. Can you issue a challenge to Andy HIM v ME at Brunters.
Will stop all the talk. im sure PF would do it.
You driving - yeah right!
05 January 2005, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Dont you mean
"Andy HIM v ME and Mark"
"Andy HIM v ME and Mark"
I MEAN ME.
If i want to set records with my car I will use Mark, cos hes 25 years younger & in his prime im well past it , at least thats what my wife says.
For a challenge like that its me im afraid.
Obviously being the second fastest Cossie driver all time aint cutting it with Redkop, must brush up on my maths I thought 198.5 was a tad faster than 176.9 but i could be wrong at my age.
Rod
ps. Good dodge of Challenge by the way , dont Track cars go in a straight line.
Mark can change a Diff in under 30mins if you want, i will pay for the swap.
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Christ Rod, what you gotta do for people to face FACTS. I have followed Rod out on the road, and he ain't scared to give it some. Some of you guys ( and gals - ) should get to know Rod a bit, he's a decent bloke who is passionate about his car.
Rgds Kev
) should get to know Rod a bit, he's a decent bloke who is passionate about his car.Rgds Kev
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Amen to that Kev.
I've met Rod a few times, and he's a thoroughly nice fella who's got all day to talk about his car.
It just comes across sometimes that Rod and all the lads are shouting "we won, we won", and everyone else is sitting back going " er okay, well done", but not being sure what to applaud.
I've met Rod a few times, and he's a thoroughly nice fella who's got all day to talk about his car.
It just comes across sometimes that Rod and all the lads are shouting "we won, we won", and everyone else is sitting back going " er okay, well done", but not being sure what to applaud.
07 January 2005, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Atkins
Christ Rod, what you gotta do for people to face FACTS. I have followed Rod out on the road, and he ain't scared to give it some. Some of you guys ( and gals - ) should get to know Rod a bit, he's a decent bloke who is passionate about his car.
Rgds Kev
) should get to know Rod a bit, he's a decent bloke who is passionate about his car.Rgds Kev
We were also parked next to him at TOTB 1, unfortunately some of the things overheard, when he and Mark were talking have left me with rather a sour taste in my mouth.
Aren't we all passionate about our cars?
Rod shouldn't dismiss other cars so lightly and get over his dislike for anything that is NMS related.