2005 Share tips?
02 January 2005, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Just FYI!
Google P/E = 231
Apple P/E = 90
Both quite high!
HP for example has a P/E of 18.
Dell = 34
IBM = 21
Makes HP look undervalued!
Google P/E = 231
Apple P/E = 90
Both quite high!
HP for example has a P/E of 18.
Dell = 34
IBM = 21
Makes HP look undervalued!
I had a dabble with shares a few years ago due to being bored in my placement year - managed to loose 800quid when my 'affinity internet' shares were lost when the company went bust due to lying about accounts
02 January 2005, 07:10 PM
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The P/E ratio is indeed the price to earnings ratio.
It is the company capitalisation (number of shares in issue multiplied by share price) divided by the current earnings of the company.
ie, so if Apple had 1,000,000,000 shares at $60 each, that'd be :
$60,000,000,000
If Apple's earnings were $600m last year ($600,000,000), then P/E would be :
$60,000,000,000 / $600,000,000 = 100
So, the P/E would be 100. - ie, company is worth 100 times on the stock market as to what the company actually made last year.....so people would reckon on it being worth 100 times what it is worth now in years to come....
Obviously, however, some companies P/E's get overinflated, such as Google....
It is the company capitalisation (number of shares in issue multiplied by share price) divided by the current earnings of the company.
ie, so if Apple had 1,000,000,000 shares at $60 each, that'd be :
$60,000,000,000
If Apple's earnings were $600m last year ($600,000,000), then P/E would be :
$60,000,000,000 / $600,000,000 = 100
So, the P/E would be 100. - ie, company is worth 100 times on the stock market as to what the company actually made last year.....so people would reckon on it being worth 100 times what it is worth now in years to come....
Obviously, however, some companies P/E's get overinflated, such as Google....
02 January 2005, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
The P/E ratio is indeed the price to earnings ratio.
It is the company capitalisation (number of shares in issue multiplied by share price) divided by the current earnings of the company.
ie, so if Apple had 1,000,000,000 shares at $60 each, that'd be :
$60,000,000,000
If Apple's earnings were $600m last year ($600,000,000), then P/E would be :
$60,000,000,000 / $600,000,000 = 100
So, the P/E would be 100. - ie, company is worth 100 times on the stock market as to what the company actually made last year.....so people would reckon on it being worth 100 times what it is worth now in years to come....
Obviously, however, some companies P/E's get overinflated, such as Google....
It is the company capitalisation (number of shares in issue multiplied by share price) divided by the current earnings of the company.
ie, so if Apple had 1,000,000,000 shares at $60 each, that'd be :
$60,000,000,000
If Apple's earnings were $600m last year ($600,000,000), then P/E would be :
$60,000,000,000 / $600,000,000 = 100
So, the P/E would be 100. - ie, company is worth 100 times on the stock market as to what the company actually made last year.....so people would reckon on it being worth 100 times what it is worth now in years to come....
Obviously, however, some companies P/E's get overinflated, such as Google....
P/E = Share price divided by earnings per share
A P/E of 100 is also pretty rich by most standards.
Another simple way to look at the P/E ratio is as in this example were you to buy the company for say $60 billion, it would take 100 years for the company to make sufficient profits assuming growth to be nil to pay back the price paid.
At the other end of the scale, some UK house builders are on P/Es of 5 times which is cheap by some standards. But, the P/E ratio is only one indicator out of many that should be taken into consideration when chosing what share to buy.
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03 January 2005, 07:44 PM
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does anyone know where to find out all the companies on the market in a particular sector(website?)
ie all the companies that deal with oil/pharmacy/entertainment etc
it's ok found a site
ie all the companies that deal with oil/pharmacy/entertainment etc
it's ok found a site
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03 January 2005, 07:51 PM
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I was hoping no-one would say TESCO as they are, quite clearly, THE share to plough ALL your money in .............
Its a no-brainer!!
But I don't want everyone to get the same wisdom!!
They have turned £30,000 into £33,300 for me in 6 weeks ..... luvverly jubberly!!
Pete
Its a no-brainer!!
But I don't want everyone to get the same wisdom!!
They have turned £30,000 into £33,300 for me in 6 weeks ..... luvverly jubberly!!
Pete
03 January 2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I was hoping no-one would say TESCO as they are, quite clearly, THE share to plough ALL your money in .............
Its a no-brainer!!
But I don't want everyone to get the same wisdom!!
They have turned £30,000 into £33,300 for me in 6 weeks ..... luvverly jubberly!!
Pete
Its a no-brainer!!
But I don't want everyone to get the same wisdom!!
They have turned £30,000 into £33,300 for me in 6 weeks ..... luvverly jubberly!!
Pete
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03 January 2005, 09:38 PM
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lol some of you talk some **** and obviously know f-all. Sorry but handing out advice on the stock market is VERY risky. Personally Id take ANYONES advice with a large pinch of salt. DYOR(do you own research) is a well used phrase. I use http://www.advfn.com and trade on a very regular basis. Im not handing out share tips, though Ill say my interests are in the AIM and last year my punt was in ASC - http://mwprices.ft.com/custom/ft-com...7E0&sid=878690
Id recomend buying some books and doing some reading if you really want to take it seriously, Toni Turner writes some good books.
Id recomend buying some books and doing some reading if you really want to take it seriously, Toni Turner writes some good books.
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10 January 2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ronny555
Warthog is a software company who got into trouble when they bought another company. Just offloaded it and the stock is recovering. Bought mine at .4p early December, just starting to come upto 1.5p.
12 January 2005, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
No guarantees of course, but for the long term, Apple may be worth a look.
iPod sales still screaming along, plus rumours of a $500 iMac to capture those consumers caught by the iPod brand and who want a PC which has the same 'feel'. Also, Macs do tend to be less affected by viruses given the lower user base of OS X.
If a $500 iMac does come along, could see a Apple's fortunes on the rise again.
iPod sales still screaming along, plus rumours of a $500 iMac to capture those consumers caught by the iPod brand and who want a PC which has the same 'feel'. Also, Macs do tend to be less affected by viruses given the lower user base of OS X.
If a $500 iMac does come along, could see a Apple's fortunes on the rise again.
$499 MacMini launched yesterday, and Apple's results have just come out tonight.
Q1 profit has quadrupled based on screaming IPod sales, and Q2 guidance has been raised....
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/12/tech...reut/index.htm
As a result, the stock is up 16% in after-hours trading already (admittedly they often soar in after-hours), but I can see a steady rise for this stock over the coming year.
08 February 2005, 05:20 PM
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Mmmmmm today was imperiously imperial and full of energy dot com. Just can't decide between a DB9 or waiting for the new Vantage
www.imperialenergy.com
love it when a plan starts to come together.
WARNING my investments normally depreciate rapidly, they normally have 4 wheels
www.imperialenergy.com
love it when a plan starts to come together.
WARNING my investments normally depreciate rapidly, they normally have 4 wheels
10 February 2005, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
COP is the next Cairn Energy ...
also Techteon if you are into speculative stocks.
also Techteon if you are into speculative stocks.
10 February 2005, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
what about ebay shares?
Only dabble in shares so would never advise anyone.
Just happy that IEC have released seismic data on some of their fields, estimating 1.5billion barrels... and the company is only valued at £80m so far
10 February 2005, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stevem2k
Sold my COP (ave price paid 22p ) for 51p last week.
Got any more
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10 February 2005, 05:25 PM
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I'm firmly in the "dunno" camp for 2005. I went fairly surely along with the minerals and natural resources theme I picked a vibe up for in 2004. My ISA is is up and so are some shares.
I now need to start thinking of selling prices for the shares. I don't know where the money will be going in 2005 though. Probably into several cars.
The AXGT needs TLC of the brake and suspension kind and I'm almost convinced to make it into a bit of a monster. Theres also a rumour someone wants to sell me a FIAT Coupe. If it's a 20VT and it's got the right bits and docs. then I could be heading down a very slippery slope with that.
J.
I now need to start thinking of selling prices for the shares. I don't know where the money will be going in 2005 though. Probably into several cars.
The AXGT needs TLC of the brake and suspension kind and I'm almost convinced to make it into a bit of a monster. Theres also a rumour someone wants to sell me a FIAT Coupe. If it's a 20VT and it's got the right bits and docs. then I could be heading down a very slippery slope with that.
J.
10 February 2005, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AllanP
Yep, was following with great interest after you first mentioned it, didn't buy any though
Got any more
Allan
Got any more
Allan
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11 February 2005, 12:24 PM
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Yet another Imperial day just about to hit £4 after trading at £2 less than a month ago. At this rate the DB9 order will be cancelled for a faster motor
www.imperialenergy.com
just about to hit £4 after trading at £2 less than a month ago. At this rate the DB9 order will be cancelled for a faster motorwww.imperialenergy.com
11 February 2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Made over £1500 today. I'm happy.
Chip
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I've held LLOY, RGU, MPH but now flying with IEC, which is apparently going to be tipped in sunday mail again.
Toyed with a dabble in EEN but can't see past IEC at the mo!
11 February 2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blot
Chip, any nuggets to look into?
I've held LLOY, RGU, MPH but now flying with IEC, which is apparently going to be tipped in sunday mail again.
Toyed with a dabble in EEN but can't see past IEC at the mo!
I've held LLOY, RGU, MPH but now flying with IEC, which is apparently going to be tipped in sunday mail again.
Toyed with a dabble in EEN but can't see past IEC at the mo!
Chip
11 February 2005, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
I wrote this a week ago, and how right I was
$499 MacMini launched yesterday, and Apple's results have just come out tonight.
Q1 profit has quadrupled based on screaming IPod sales, and Q2 guidance has been raised....
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/12/tech...reut/index.htm
As a result, the stock is up 16% in after-hours trading already (admittedly they often soar in after-hours), but I can see a steady rise for this stock over the coming year.
$499 MacMini launched yesterday, and Apple's results have just come out tonight.
Q1 profit has quadrupled based on screaming IPod sales, and Q2 guidance has been raised....
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/12/tech...reut/index.htm
As a result, the stock is up 16% in after-hours trading already (admittedly they often soar in after-hours), but I can see a steady rise for this stock over the coming year.
Growth stocks should be in the 20-30 range, 'normal stocks in the 12-14 area.
Another thing to go for is yeild - the % dividend vs. the stock price - undervalued companies, then just keep re-investing the dividends in more shares. BUT don't be afraid to drop the share as soon as the yeild drops below, say 4%, and replace with something better
The Motley Fool (www.fool.co.uk) has loads more about this
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11 February 2005, 10:40 PM
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Blot, I'm looking at oil minnows in the next week, nop, des maybe een. IEC have had a good run and are way too expensive for my sort of share. Held MXC for a long time and this for me is getting towards a ten bagger for me Like the buzz of the penny or sub penny shares when they kick off and always keen to gamble. If you're after something a bit more stable TAL and BPRG have a good future.
Like the buzz of the penny or sub penny shares when they kick off and always keen to gamble. If you're after something a bit more stable TAL and BPRG have a good future.
11 February 2005, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DPat
The problem here is that these profits (and the next 100+ years worth) are already priced into the share price - that's what the P/E ratio is all about
Growth stocks should be in the 20-30 range, 'normal stocks in the 12-14 area.
Growth stocks should be in the 20-30 range, 'normal stocks in the 12-14 area.
13 February 2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Groat
Blot, I'm looking at oil minnows in the next week, nop, des maybe een. IEC have had a good run and are way too expensive for my sort of share. Held MXC for a long time and this for me is getting towards a ten bagger for me Like the buzz of the penny or sub penny shares when they kick off and always keen to gamble. If you're after something a bit more stable TAL and BPRG have a good future.
Like the buzz of the penny or sub penny shares when they kick off and always keen to gamble. If you're after something a bit more stable TAL and BPRG have a good future.